Originally posted by Endrict Nuul😖hifty:
That great "durability and strength" of his didn't help much here....So once again Rhino gets beaten by someone with brains.
Dude, thanks A LOT for bringing up the Punisher to this discussion. And to think I was starting to believe you were gonna put me on your ignore list for real...
Looky here:
Dude, where is the agility? The Spider-sense? The brains? Anything? Don't tell me a guy like The Russian (who doesn't even have superspeed or enhanced reflexes) just nailed Spidey like that!
And just for kicks here is another scan from Punisher - War Journal, the series you got that one from:
Tiger Shark ---> Class 75 (when in water)
Punisher ---> 50+years old peak human (?)
Originally posted by h1a8
No! That is not the point I'm trying to make. What I'm saying is that Spidey can indeed hurt Rhino. This is because if we take his high end durability feats as valid then we have to take Spidey's high end strength feats as valid too. Only fair.
True, this board has a rule about people always fighting at their maximun potential. The problem is that it also has a rule forbidding PIS.
Originally posted by h1a8
And Rhino doesn't ever show insane strength and durability on a regular basis. What are you smoking? Do you know what insane strength and durability in comics is? It's certainly nothing Rhino has ever done. Rhino has never shown strength over 100tons and never has shown more durability than Thing, Colossus, Namor, or any class 100 being period. Spidey and other weaker than Rhino beings hurt Rhino ON A REGULAR BASIS.
Huh? Since when 'insane strength and durability' necesarily means 'class 100+ feats'? I'm confussed. 😕
Originally posted by h1a8CA hurt him by hitting him in the face. Remember?
So? Apparently he can hurt Hulk by hitting him in the face as well.
Originally posted by PremutosSpidey has more feats that prove he can hurt Rhino than Rhino has more feats that say Spidey can't. I wonder where the PIS lies.
True, this board has a rule about people always fighting at their maximun potential. The problem is that it also has a rule forbidding PIS.
How many times do someone has to prove something is not PIS anyway? Two, three, four, what? Give me an estimate.
Always has and always will. Do you know what insane implies? Superman is barely insane to us comic fans.
Huh? Since when 'insane strength and durability' necesarily means 'class 100+ feats'? I'm confussed. 😕
Just shows you that the face is weak indeed.
So? Apparently he can hurt Hulk by hitting him in the face as well.
Originally posted by h1a8
Spidey has more feats that prove he can hurt Rhino than Rhino has more feats that say Spidey can't. I wonder where the PIS lies.
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Do you realize that you Spidey fans are more convinced of him being able to hurt Rhino in a H2H fight than Spidey himself sometimes?
Originally posted by h1a8
How many times do someone has to prove something is not PIS anyway? Two, three, four, what? Give me an estimate.
Tell you what, better yet could you show me what I asked for a coupla pages ago? Scans of Spidey beating up non-jobbers in the 70 or 80+ class range. C'mon, we're talking the MU, where superheroes fight each other all the time. This shouldn't be that hard.
And when I say 'non-jobbers' I mean 'anyone but Rhino, Mr. Hyde, Sandman or Tiger Shark'. Hell, I'll even accept Terrax as a non-jobber if you want me to.
Originally posted by h1a8
Always has and always will. Do you know what insane implies? Superman is barely insane to us comic fans.
Ok, if you say so. But in the scan above Spidey himself refers to Rhino's durability as 'insane', must be that he's not a comic fan.
Originally posted by h1a8
You didn't respond to my comment on the SS helping SM dodge before the attack is launched. In no way Spidey was shown to dodge light after the beam enter the air.
Do you know what this implies, don't you? That Spidey knew that Cyclops was gonna shoot at him (and in which direction) before Cyclops himself ever thought of doing such a thing.
So according to this logic, Spidey == Madam Web lite.
Originally posted by Premutos
Do you know what this implies, don't you? That Spidey knew that Cyclops was gonna shoot at him (and in which direction) before Cyclops himself ever thought of doing such a thing.So according to this logic, Spidey == Madam Web lite.
Well tell me sir, what does SS actually do then?
Originally posted by h1a8
He has SS silly. It tells him to dodge before the attack is launch. Thus he can potentially dodge anything that's not mega in area.
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Also, Spidey hasn't had only class 10 strength since the 60s. Even with the recent downgrade, we don't know where he is strength-wise. Sure, he won't be at the class 20-25 range, but I don't think he's gonna be all the way back down to 10. Before his "The Other" upgrade, he was already around class 15 anyway.
Originally posted by Premutos
According to marvel.com, it's "an early warning detection system linked with his superhuman kinesthetics", only that in order to perform that feat above he would have to be a full-fledged clairvoyant.Which he's not.
early warning means precog.
SM used that early warning to get the hell out of the way. I don't understand what you are not seeing.
