Originally posted by snoopdogg
For the record I do think that Logan beats Blade, but in that fight Blade had the upperhand.
He didn't have anything and you know it. Guggenheim just told you that because he felt sorry for someone who came crying to him over the fact that Wolverine kicked the ass of his favorite character.
Logan intentionally walking through a sword and allowing himself to be stabbed with a vile of vampire blood is somehow an advantage for Blade? Yeah...just like every fight Logan has had with Hulk has somehow meant that Logan really had the upper hand in all of their fights. Nice logic there. 💃
Please, grasp at more straws.
I find it interesting now that Logan is kicking ass in hell, the Wolverine haters have shown up in his own thread just to disprespect him. Your Logan hate is really something to be in awe of.
Originally posted by The Real WolvieCalm down son. I'm out.
He didn't have anything and you know it. Guggenheim just told you that because he felt sorry for someone who came crying to him over the fact that Wolverine kicked the ass of his favorite character.Logan intentionally walking through a sword and allowing himself to be stabbed with a vile of vampire blood is somehow an advantage for Blade? Yeah...just like every fight Logan has had with Hulk has somehow meant that Logan really had the upper hand in all of their fights. Nice logic there. 💃
Please, grasp at more straws.
I find it interesting now that Logan is kicking ass in hell, the Wolverine haters have shown up in his own thread just to disprespect him. Your Logan hate is as hilarious something to be in awe of.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
I just read the fight with Blade. Wolverine intentionally takes his sword to the chest and walks right through it. Then he kicks Blades' ass, pins him to the ground and gets a vile of vampire blood in his neck. So what advantage did Blade have exactly? Logan didn't even try to doge the sword attack or the vampire blood as he knew that neither would affect him significantly. To me, the only "advantage" that Blade had in that fight was the surprise vile of blood to the neck. Which Logan didn't even try and dodge. Kind of like a Batman "Secret weapon element of suprise type of advantage" that wasn't really an advantage at all since it failed miserably.So we have what actually happened on panel vs what Guggenheim supposedly told you in an email. Even if Guggenheim did tell you that - it's off the record and could very well have been written just to put at ease the mind of an individual who clearly cares way too much about his favorite character beating Wolverine. For all we know, he could have been laughing in his mind and thinking "yeah right, Wolverine totally wrecked him and would do it again". But he just didn't have the heart to tell you that maybe? Maybe I should write Chris Claremont what he thinks about a fight between Wolverine and Blade and then post it on here to try and prove something...
Dude, you do know what thread this is right? It's the Wolverine respect thread. Seriously, it's as if you just jumped from out of the past from three years ago with some obscure evidence that no one could possibly care about regarding a point that hasn't been discussed in three ****ing years.
You're acting like everyone else has followed this discussion and that nothing has happened between page 1 of the thread and now...
And for the record, the Wolverine fans are not at all bothered by the issue of Wolverine kicking Blade's ass...because well..he kicked Blade's ass. The only ones that are bothered by it and feel the need to discuss it 3 years later out of absolute ****ing nowhere are the people who can't get over the fact that Wolverine beat Blade. So they have to email the writer with some ridiculous hope that he will tell them something in order for them to interpet the scans in their favor. As I already stated, he could have just been lying to appease you....FF'S.
again i'll give a mod access to my e-mail account to verify it, now we have writers intention, stated clear as day the fight was written to be a stalemate.
Originally posted by Trackz
again i'll give a mod access to my e-mail account to verify it, now we have writers intention, stated clear as day the fight was written to be a stalemate.
And again, it doesn't really matter what he told you in an email..what matters is what's on panel. It's like when people tell their kids that Santa is real when they go to school and get made fun of for believing in him. Oh no Johnny...don't cry...Satan is real. Oh no Trackz..don't cry it was a stalemate..Blade really had the advantage I promise. pfftttttt
Off the record ambiguous statements FTW, yo!!!!
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie...you're actually arguing your interpretation>the writers intention?
And again, it doesn't really matter what he told you in an email..what matters is what's on panel. It's like when people tell their kids that Santa is real when they go to school and get made fun of for believing in him. Oh no Johnny...don't cry...Satan is real. Oh no Trackz..don't cry it was a stalemate..Blade really had the advantage I promise. pffttttttOff the record ambiguous statements FTW, yo!!!!
..wow, ok I'm done.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Calm down son. I'm out.
Oh, I'm totally calm. I actually have a huge grin on my face. I just can't believe that someone would email a writer and then come back with it in a Wolverine respect thread 3 years after everyone has quite discussing it. It's really funny because he cares more than most other comic book geeks. It's also funny because it just came out of butt-screw nowhere. And also it's funny because nobody is even thinking about this as being important to Wolverine...and they really don't care if a fight between Blade and Wolverine was SUPPOSED to end in a draw (but didn't look like it) or that Blade was supposed to have an advantage (but really didn't).
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie..that issue has been brought up in almost every blade vs. thread...so yeah, rather than waste time I took the initiative to write to the author of the issue.
Oh, I'm totally calm. I actually have a huge grin on my face. I just can't believe that someone would email a writer and then come back with it in a Wolverine respect thread 3 years after everyone has quite discussing it. It's really funny because he cares more than most other comic book geeks. It's also funny because it just came out of butt-screw nowhere. And also it's funny because nobody is even thinking about this as being important to Wolverine...and they really don't care if a fight between Blade and Wolverine was SUPPOSED to end in a draw (but didn't look like it) or that Blade was supposed to have an advantage (but really didn't).
Originally posted by Trackz
..that issue has been brought up in almost every blade vs. thread...so yeah, rather than waste time I took the initiative to write to the author of the issue.
Does this look like a Blade vs thread to you? Do you really think that Jinzin, Srank, Dum Dum Dugan and myself are going to be like....he's totally right. OMG all these years! This writer told some random dude in an email that he originally intented the fight between Logan and Blade to be a stalemate and for Blade to have the upper hand. It didn't come out that way on panel, but it's just so clear...omg Blade really is better than Wolverine. Oh, this proves everything that trackz and snoop have ever said about Wolverine and Blade!
Like really....really.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Does this look like a Blade vs thread to you? Do you really think that Jinzin, Srank, Dum Dum Dugan and myself are going to be like....he's totally right. OMG all these years! This writer told some random dude in an email that he originally intented the fight between Logan and Blade to be a stalemate and for Blade to have the upper hand. It didn't come out that way on panel, but it's just so clear...omg Blade really is better than Wolverine. Oh, this proves everything that trackz and snoop have ever said about Wolverine and Blade!Like really....really.
it addresses a long debated issue, and despite the fact I said I posted the e-mail to ease tensions, I clearly posted it here to gloat... 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
[B]Bone-Clawed Wolverine fights off the entire N'garai nation, INCLUDING Kierrok, and does so much damage that Kierrok has to stall his plans to assault the Earth:
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Second encounter with Kierrok after dealing with his horde:
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Continues to kill more drones:
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I always think of this issue when people try and pretend DS fighting super hero teams = wolverine being no match for him. Just because we don't like to shove every high end showing in peoples faces does not mean wolverine does not have those types of feats. He has them in spades. This feat is more impressive then anything ive seen anyone at low meta ever doing.
I don't think there was ever an issue with whether or not the fight technically ended in a draw, since they did both stopped the fight at their own leisure. The issue is about how the fight played out before it ended. It is like the Wolverine v Captain America fight in Origins, Wolverine - despite being weaken - had the advantage against Cap during the the actual fight, even delivering a potentially fatal blood clot that prevented Cap from exerting himself at risk of death... but the fight ended with Cap holding the Muramasa blade. The timely intervention of a plot device allowed Cap to save face, but he still got beat on before that plot device showed up... and if the fight had continued he might have been able to kill Wolverine, but the blood clot would have assuredly killed him first.
I don't use it or really know how it works, but I think a lot of writers have twitter accounts, and I imagine it would be faster to get an answer and easier to verify once they do.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think there was ever an issue with whether or not the fight technically ended in a draw, since they did both stopped the fight at their own leisure. The issue is about how the fight played out before it ended. It is like the Wolverine v Captain America fight in Origins, Wolverine - despite being weaken - had the advantage against Cap during the the actual fight, even delivering a potentially fatal blood clot that prevented Cap from exerting himself at risk of death... but the fight ended with Cap holding the Muramasa blade. The timely intervention of a plot device allowed Cap to save face, but he still got beat on before that plot device showed up... and if the fight had continued he might have been able to kill Wolverine, but the blood clot would have assuredly killed him first.I don't use it or really know how it works, but I think a lot of writers have twitter accounts, and I imagine it would be faster to get an answer and easier to verify once they do.
yea I have no idea how twitter works. Frank tiere has an ancount and I want to ask him if wolverine/darkness is cannon 616, which I believe it is.
Originally posted by King Castle
also remember that currently the vamp transformation isnt instantaneous for wolvie which means wolvester could have still killed blade plus by trackz own admission of the writer a plot device was needed for his story..drylaugh
...I mean how else are you supposed to put down Wolverine in a head-to-head confrontation.
And the fact that transforming sends wolverine into extreme pain means it would be easier for Blade.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think there was ever an issue with whether or not the fight technically ended in a draw, since they did both stopped the fight at their own leisure. The issue is about how the fight played out before it ended. It is like the Wolverine v Captain America fight in Origins, Wolverine - despite being weaken - had the advantage against Cap during the the actual fight, even delivering a potentially fatal blood clot that prevented Cap from exerting himself at risk of death... but the fight ended with Cap holding the Muramasa blade. The timely intervention of a plot device allowed Cap to save face, but he still got beat on before that plot device showed up... and if the fight had continued he might have been able to kill Wolverine, but the blood clot would have assuredly killed him first.I don't use it or really know how it works, but I think a lot of writers have twitter accounts, and I imagine it would be faster to get an answer and easier to verify once they do.
Captain America still needed Tank's help in order to distract Wolverine no?
Also, it has been stated that the fight ended Wolverine winning and Blade in a weaker position.
Once again I'm not here to debate I posted an e-mail because it makes both characters look good. On one hand we have that Blade did have the slight upper hand at the end, but we also have a writer admitting that without preparation it's near impossible to beat Wolverine in a head-to-head confrontation.
this wasnt the forum nor thread to post your comments anyways and you know better to boot...
the pain caused by the transformation would have been sufficient to release his claws or rage into Blade killing him since blade was in a very bad position...
if some one has you at knife point to the throat you really wanna risk giving him a spasm and enraging him with pain?
what the hell you think is gonna happen to you?
