Lord Rayden vs Emperor Palpatine

Started by Devil King9 pages
Originally posted by Man of Christ
dont let jealousy cloud your judgment padawan

You play a lot of video games, don't you?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Fine then. Let's use your logic.

The thread starter never specified weither or not Rayden can use his powers. So until we get clarification, Rayden is not allowed to teleport or use any of his lightning powers. The thread starter did not specify weither or not the force is allowed, so no force powers can be used. The thread starter did not specify weither they could walk, or use their fists, or even stand up.

So until the thread starter specifies weither or not they can do any of these things, Rayden and Sideous will sit in one spot (Though that's me assuming they're allowed to sit down. The thread starter didn't specify.) Until Snafu makes things more clear.

Rogue Jedi logic prevails.

Christopher Lambert as Raiden could teleport and use lightning powers, thread starter specified Christopher Lambert, remember?

Originally posted by Man of Christ
i say the element of supprise gives raiden the win here because for example, siddious knew yoda had the force but even then he did nothing to defend against yoda's force push in the office.

imagine then if palpatine was caught off guard in this same scenario but instead of a tk push it was enough lightening to stop a heart.

sids gets creamed

The force also moves a thousand times faster, and is for the most part undodgable. It also can only be blocked by the force, whereas lightning can be blocked by the force, counter lightning, and lightsabers, as well as be dodged.

You're assuming that Sideous will be unable to dodge or block a lightning blast, despite the fact that he moves and reacts a hundred times faster then padawans, who can easily block blaster bolts.

Raiden's lightning moves slow enough that regular fighters and ninja can dodge it.

Christopher Lambert as Raiden could teleport and use lightning powers, thread starter specified Christopher Lambert, remember?

But he didn't specify which abilities Raiden could use.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The force also moves a thousand times faster, and is for the most part undodgable. It also can only be blocked by the force, whereas lightning can be blocked by the force, counter lightning, and lightsabers, as well as be dodged.

You're assuming that Sideous will be unable to dodge or block a lightning blast, despite the fact that he moves and reacts a hundred times faster then padawans, who can easily block blaster bolts.

Raiden's lightning moves slow enough that regular fighters and ninja can dodge it.

But he didn't specify which abilities Raiden could use.

The force moves a thousand times faster? Where did you hear that?

And the thread starter specified Christopher Lamberts Raiden, who could indeed use lightning powers AND teleport.

"thousand" was hyperbole. My point was that the force is much, much faster then Raiden's lightning is. A force is instantaneous unless it's in a tangible form such as lightning. There is no time between when the attack is cast and when it effects the victim. Raiden's lightning on the other hand, is not instantaneous. It like force lightning does not have the same characteristics as real electricity, most notably it's speed.

Yes he has the abilities, but the thread starter did not specify whither or not he could use them. He didn't say "Christopher Lambert's Raiden with all his abilities" now did he? He just said Christopher Lambert's Raiden, which could mean anything.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
"thousand" was hyperbole. My point was that the force is much, much faster then Raiden's lightning is. A force is instantaneous unless it's in a tangible form such as lightning. There is no time between when the attack is cast and when it effects the victim. Raiden's lightning on the other hand, is not instantaneous. It like force lightning does not have the same characteristics as real electricity, most notably it's speed.

Yes he has the abilities, but the thread starter did not specify whither or not he could use them. He didn't say "Christopher Lambert's Raiden with all his abilities" now did he? He just said Christopher Lambert's Raiden, which could mean anything.

You are being difficult just to be difficult. Saying it is Christopher Lamberts version implies he has said powers.

Rogue Jedi logic dictates that what is implied is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what the thread starter specifies.

Thats what we have to work with. Get used to it or GTFO.

That being the case, until the thread starter specifies wither or not Raiden can use his abilities, he can not use them. Same goes for Palpatine.

That's just how things work around here RJ. Get used to it or GTFO.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
That being the case, until the thread starter specifies wither or not Raiden can use his abilities, he can not use them. Same goes for Palpatine.

That's just how things work around here RJ. Get used to it or GTFO.

Aw, someone still hve a wet diaper about the whole lightsaber thing?

I have been posting here since day one, I have no need for a refresher on forum rules.

Posting where, in the movie verse? That pretty much makes two of us.

Though you posting here since day one is apparently utterly irrelevant, since you admitted to assuming that Luke had his lightsaber in the Neo vs. Luke thread, even though the thread starter never specified as to wither or not Luke even had his lightsaber.

Maybe you do need a refresher, if you're breaking the rules like that?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Posting where, in the movie verse? That pretty much makes two of us.

Though you posting here since day one is apparently utterly irrelevant, since you admitted to assuming that Luke had his lightsaber in the Neo vs. Luke thread, even though the thread starter never specified as to wither or not Luke even had his lightsaber.

Maybe you do need a refresher, if you're breaking the rules like that?

Bottom line is that the thread starter specified Raiden from the first MK movie, so it's a no brainer to include all of Raidens powers. Weaponry and powers are different.

No they're not.

Thats your comeback? Man.......tell you what, pm Impediment and we'll see who has the right interpretation of the rules.

It doesn't matter that much to me, though you can feel free to do so.. At this point, all I'm arguing is semantics; expressing how ridiculous this "rule", or your interpretation of the rule, is. Sideous would win this even without his lightsaber.

Sure he would.

Well, I'm glad you agree.

Can this thread die now?

Nope. Raiden would win because as Palpy attacks all he has to do is teleport outta the way and attack from another angle.

You can't "teleport" away from the force. 😐

And he can't even see what's attacking him. What, he just teleports around for no reason? Palpatine doesn't even have to raise his hand. He just has to look at Raiden, and he'll go flying into a wall at 50 MPH. And that's me being easy... Palpatine can snap his fingers and Raiden's chest will instantly cave in on itself, similiar to what Mace did to Greivous.

Here's something we haven't considered...do they know about each others powers before they fight? If not, that adds a whole new twist to things.