Originally posted by Bardock42
You know what I mean, if he would just act like a clumsy fool all through 24 and someone told me, but yeah, he was a Navy Seal, and he saved the President's life ten times, and he brought down the Soviet Union by himself...then that would just be horrible writing, and you'd ask "Yeah? What happened since then to make him such a loser". You get my concerns?
Well, then he would just be a combination of Maxwell Smart, Inspector Gadget and the Pink Pather.
Originally posted by Bardock42I get your point. But....
Look, mate, all I am saying is, bring on some of the magical feats of Bauer we hear about. Someone said he was Special Forces, someone said he was highly decorated....cool, and I am happy if that is good writing, but what tells us that he wasn't just a lazy bum that happened to sleep with the right guys wife to achieve that? Indeed, nothing. So what actions he actually performed on screen, show us that he could beat McClane. Lets get some of those on, except for his history.You know what I mean, if he would just act like a clumsy fool all through 24 and someone told me, but yeah, he was a Navy Seal, and he saved the President's life ten times, and he brought down the Soviet Union by himself...then that would just be horrible writing, and you'd ask "Yeah? What happened since then to make him such a loser". You get my concerns?
One's background have no bearing here? Let's Say we are led to believe McLane is a deadeye sniper in the Die Hard movies, an ex Marine Corp sniper. but we never see him as a sniper onscreen.....Are his sniper skills going to come into play here?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I get your point. But....One's background have no bearing here? Let's Say we are led to believe McLane is a deadeye sniper in the Die Hard movies, an ex Marine Corp sniper. but we never see him as a sniper onscreen.....Are his sniper skills going to come into play here?
Is a good question. Though the scenario is obviously different. Here we are solely supposed to go by their apparent training...with no backing of what they actually did on screen. Especially since they were probably pushed to their limits on screen, that should certainly be discussed first. If it's a close call, fair enough...but just
A: McClane owned hundreds of terrorists
B: Yeah, but it is said that Bauer had Delta Force training a long time ago.
doesn't cover it, does it?
Originally posted by Bardock42Well, I guess you got a point, maybe he forgot some of the Delta training, maybe he isn't physically the same as he was then, maybe this and that.
Is a good question. Though the scenario is obviously different. Here we are solely supposed to go by their apparent training...with no backing of what they actually did on screen. Especially since they were probably pushed to their limits on screen, that should certainly be discussed first. If it's a close call, fair enough...but justA: McClane owned hundreds of terrorists
B: Yeah, but it is said that Bauer had Delta Force training a long time ago.doesn't cover it, does it?
It is his CIA training that I tend to focus on however.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm curious as to who you were referring to when you said:"I love how people actually get upset and angry in these kinds of debates as if they actually mean anything"?
well the clue is in the "these kinds of debates" bit
this being representative of all the rather out-of-hand verses debates....take the neo v luke one...which is actually laughable
You sure the word "egoistical" is in any way appropriate?
no...but egotistical is
Originally posted by Robtard
You Scottish baboon. Which people in this particular thread?
we dont have baboons in Scotland...just lots of Neds...which are close enough
lots of people...in lots of threads...having utterly futile debates and talking as if they know the facts and everyone else that doesn't agree is an idiot...when the fact is you can argue definitively either way BECAUSE IT'S ALL ****ING FICTION
Originally posted by jaden101
lots of people...in lots of threads...having utterly futile debates and talking as if they know the facts and everyone else that doesn't agree is an idiot...when the fact is you can argue definitively either way BECAUSE IT'S ALL ****ING FICTION
I'm not sure how I can be the egotistical one, when I said this at the beginning of the thread:
Originally posted by Devil King
And by the way, I don't give a shit about which of them wins.
And what's more egotistical? To enter a thread and tell everyone in it they might be idiots for arguing the merrits of two fictional characters, depending on how seriously they take the topic or someone who points out not knowing anything about one of the two characters should exclude someone from participating? And then, because I use more than 5 words to do it, everyone tells me I'm angry
Originally posted by Devil KingSlurping up the frog? haermm
I don't think myself, Jaden or Impediment addressed you, but you coudn't help but slurping up that frog, could you? You know what you're doing.
I have made every attempt to get back on track here, but you just keep going on and on and on and on and on.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, see, "he was in the delta force", is one line you can put on any fictional character. What they actually show to be capable of should be what is important. If you have a total idiot character but then say he is a badass then your writing is bad. Anyways, it doesn't matter, what either of them actually did on screen is what is important.Also, only read your first and last sentence, I assume the rest of it is trivial shit.
You know what, screw you, you're full of shit.
"What they did on screen is important".
Yeah no shit its important, maybe you should actually watch 24 before you open your mouth and spout crap.
In Every episode of 24, Bauer's skills are evident. You're a dumb shit who thinks McClane, who lost to some chick in H2H, can beat a Delta Force Operator.
Hahaha its so funny how you continue to say being in the Delta Force is just a rank and it doesnt mean anything. Lol, you really don't know anything about the military. So like I said before, stick to comic book characters or at least don't pretend you know what you are talking about when you clearly don't.