Originally posted by Bardock42The fact that Bauer is ex Delta AND ex CIA is proof enough. All we really know about McLane is that he is a cop.
What I thought.Well, my contribution to this thread kinda ties in with what Devil King said, since I am not very aware of Bauer's skills, I did not comment on which of them won...sometimes it is wise to admit ignorance, RJ.
Do the math.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The fact that Bauer is ex Delta AND ex CIA is proof enough. All we really know about McLane is that he is a cop.Do the math.
So, somehow, to you, someone else having CIA and Delta Force training, beats, the other character doing shit that is ACTUALLY FAR ABOVE ANY REAL CIA AGENT OR DELTA FORCE MEMBER...
Where's the logic again?
Thought so, can we go over to what the cats actually did on screen now, and leave whatever a horrible writer felt appropriate to add out?
Originally posted by Bardock42Tell me, how did McLane manage to survive his exploits? Despite being a badass with a leprechaun as a guardian angel?
So, somehow, to you, someone else having CIA and Delta Force training, beats, the other character doing shit that is ACTUALLY FAR ABOVE ANY REAL CIA AGENT OR DELTA FORCE MEMBER...Where's the logic again?
Thought so, can we go over to what the cats actually did on screen now, and leave whatever a horrible writer felt appropriate to add out?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Tell me, how did McLane manage to survive his exploits? Despite being a badass with a leprechaun as a guardian angel?
I assume the being a really skilled badass part is partly important. Sure, in many cases luck is absolutely on his side. But the man did shit that is certainly Special Forces caliber, don't you think?
Originally posted by Bardock42No argument there.
I assume the being a really skilled badass part is partly important. Sure, in many cases luck is absolutely on his side. But the man did shit that is certainly Special Forces caliber, don't you think?
But Bauer with his CIA training, covert and dark Ops shit, in addition to being a badass, I see him running down McLane. Not saying McLane wont put up a fight though.
McLane, despite being resilient, tends to rely on the help of others.
Originally posted by jaden101
hahaha..i've read some egotistical things in my time but that's definitely up there with the best of them
Read back, you will see several people telling me to calm down and that I'm angry. I thought the point you made was nicely made and added my own to it. This is why my comment does revolve around me. I was not addressing you directly.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No argument there.But Bauer with his CIA training, covert and dark Ops shit, in addition to being a badass, I see him running down McLane. Not saying McLane wont put up a fight though.
McLane, despite being resilient, tends to rely on the help of others.
Look, mate, all I am saying is, bring on some of the magical feats of Bauer we hear about. Someone said he was Special Forces, someone said he was highly decorated....cool, and I am happy if that is good writing, but what tells us that he wasn't just a lazy bum that happened to sleep with the right guys wife to achieve that? Indeed, nothing. So what actions he actually performed on screen, show us that he could beat McClane. Lets get some of those on, except for his history.
You know what I mean, if he would just act like a clumsy fool all through 24 and someone told me, but yeah, he was a Navy Seal, and he saved the President's life ten times, and he brought down the Soviet Union by himself...then that would just be horrible writing, and you'd ask "Yeah? What happened since then to make him such a loser". You get my concerns?