Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Originally posted by Raoul
which is something i have no problem with whatsoever... 😛

would help squash duplicate threads, and it'd be just plain hilarious to see the arguments...

very true...

lookaround

srug

no, i wanted a fresh start... i might merge that one, but thats about it...

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i'm not talking about the race, i'm talking about this:

http://i111.imagethrust.com/images/3UKt/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-007.html
http://i107.imagethrust.com/images/3UKu/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-008.html
http://i105.imagethrust.com/images/3UKv/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-009.html
http://i117.imagethrust.com/images/3UKw/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-011.html
http://i107.imagethrust.com/images/3UKx/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-012.html
http://i113.imagethrust.com/images/3UKy/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-013.html
http://i120.imagethrust.com/images/3UKz/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-014.html
http://i105.imagethrust.com/images/3UKI/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-015.html
http://i111.imagethrust.com/images/3UKJ/view-image/flash-v-2--209-p-016.html

is clark as fast as wally? no. is he a HELL of alot faster than hulk? yes, imo...

no i didn't.

superman flew from metropolis to the middle east in 3 seconds. i have the scan if anyone wants to see it. this is the same superman that makes sure he doesnt hurt or kill anyone with sonic booms...

You are correct, superman is fast as hell but what Im bring up is that the only speed that was quoted was 2000mps
http://i117.imagethrust.com/images/3UKw/show-image/flashv2209p011.html

Mimic would have ran circles around them if he was in that race during that time. Even though mimic moves at greats speed, half the speed of light, I still think that hulk would literally destroy him.

Its not superman flying speed that is in question, its his combat speed.

Originally posted by Rorschach
He used a Boom Tube. Apokolips is in another Universe.

Of course he's faster than light. He had to move faster than light in order to accomplish what he did.

Because you don't even seem to understand how speed is determined in the first place.

The fact that he flew to another Galaxy, which is light-years away, makes him faster than light.

So youre basically saying that vulcan can run circles around hulk to huh. and since ironman flew with sentry from the earth to the sun in two panels he could also run circles around hulk. Hell rogue flew from the moon to the earth in seconds after being punched by binary which is well above the speed of sound, so she should be able to walk circles around hulk to. If you believe all of this then there is no point in debating.

Originally posted by carver9
You are correct, superman is fast as hell but what Im bring up is that the only speed that was quoted was 2000mps
http://i117.imagethrust.com/images/3UKw/show-image/flashv2209p011.html

Mimic would have ran circles around them if he was in that race during that time. Even though mimic moves at greats speed, half the speed of light, I still think that hulk would literally destroy him.

Its not superman flying speed that is in question, its his combat speed.

they accelerate, wally says it himself... 2000mps is the starting speed...

combat speed does come into it, as reflexes are required to dodge civilians, etc...

Originally posted by Raoul
where in the scans i posted does it say 2000mps?

and combat speed is taken into account, given that superman would have to dodge civilians, etc...

Superman just rammed through ppl, canon.

Originally posted by Raoul
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Its in the orange boxes in the scan that i presented.

Originally posted by carver9
So youre basically saying that vulcan can run circles around hulk to huh.

Did I say Superman would run circles around the Hulk? No. I simply said that Superman, and Vulcan are faster than light.

Originally posted by carver9
and since ironman flew with sentry from the earth to the sun in two panels he could also run circles around hulk.

Panels don't indicate time. For one thing, it takes light 8 minutes to reach the Earth from the Sun, it's not the same as crossing several light-years . And Iron Man didn't go all the way up to the Sun with Sentry, he was behind Sentry.

Originally posted by carver9
Hell rogue flew from the moon to the earth in seconds after being punched by binary which is well above the speed of sound, so she should be able to walk circles around hulk to. If you believe all of this then there is no point in debating.

There's difference between characters been shown to be able to move at the speed of light, and characters been shown to actually utilize their speed during combat. Superman has been shown to utilize his speed during some of his fights, that's why people believe he can speed blitz. Unless Rouge has actually been shown utilizing her speed during combat, you can't assume she'll be doing in forum fights.

Originally posted by Raoul
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I guess that mean you didnt get my post?

Originally posted by carver9
I guess that mean you didnt get my post?

i edited, see:

Originally posted by carver9
You are correct, superman is fast as hell but what Im bring up is that the only speed that was quoted was 2000mps
http://i117.imagethrust.com/images/3UKw/show-image/flashv2209p011.html

Mimic would have ran circles around them if he was in that race during that time. Even though mimic moves at greats speed, half the speed of light, I still think that hulk would literally destroy him.

Its not superman flying speed that is in question, its his combat speed.

they accelerate, wally says it himself... 2000mps is the starting speed...

combat speed does come into it, as reflexes are required to dodge civilians, etc...

Originally posted by Mindset
Superman just rammed through ppl, canon.

😂

Originally posted by Rorschach
Did I say Superman would run circles around the Hulk? No. I simply said that Superman, and Vulcan are faster than light.

Panels don't indicate time. For one thing, it takes light 8 minutes to reach the Earth from the Sun, it's not the same as crossing several light-years . And Iron Man didn't go all the way up to the Sun with Sentry, he was behind Sentry.

There's difference between characters been shown to be able to move at the speed of light, and characters been shown to actually utilize their speed during combat. Superman has been shown to utilize his speed during some of his fights, that's why people believe he can speed blitz. Unless Rouge has actually been shown utilizing her speed during combat, you can't assume she'll be doing in forum fights.

and the times that he has used his speed during combat is about how many times out of 60 years, trust me, I could count it on one hand. If you are using that then you might as well say that wolverine has super speed, spiderman has super speed, blade has super speed. You fail to realize that almost every character has displayed some sort of combat speed, it should go by how many times it has been used in comics. Like lets say flash, flash continuously uses his speed in combat, quicksilver continuously use there speed also and bricks have a very hard time hitting them but the same cant be said for superman.

Originally posted by Raoul
i edited, see:

they accelerate, wally says it himself... 2000mps is the starting speed...

combat speed does come into it, as reflexes are required to dodge civilians, etc...

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good one.

You all have a good night, I'll debate with you tomorrow.

Originally posted by carver9
and the times that he has used his speed during combat is about how many times out of 60 years, trust me, I could count it on one hand.

How did you end up with more than ten fingers? You aren't the result of inbreeding, are you?

Originally posted by carver9
If you are using that then you might as well say that wolverine has super speed, spiderman has super speed, blade has super speed.

Sure, some of them might have super-speed, but not to the same degree as Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
You fail to realize that almost every character has displayed some sort of combat speed

Yes, I still remember that memorable moment when Uncle Ben blitzed the Green Goblin.

Originally posted by carver9
it should go by how many times it has been used in comics. Like lets say flash, flash continuously uses his speed in combat, quicksilver continuously use there speed also and bricks have a very hard time hitting them but the same cant be said for superman.

Does Flash use his speed more often that Superman? Sure. Does Superman use his speed often enough for us to use it in forum battles? Yes.

Originally posted by carver9
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good one.

You all have a good night, I'll debate with you tomorrow. [/B]

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Originally posted by carver9
You are correct, superman is fast as hell but what Im bring up is that the only speed that was quoted was 2000mps
http://i117.imagethrust.com/images/3UKw/show-image/flashv2209p011.html

Mimic would have ran circles around them if he was in that race during that time. Even though mimic moves at greats speed, half the speed of light, I still think that hulk would literally destroy him.

Its not superman flying speed that is in question, its his combat speed.

Why do you keep coming back to this 2000mps rubbish were continually shown that Superman moves at light speed. That's will-full ignorance, you don't want to believe Supes can travel at light-speed so pretend it's not true.

Originally posted by carver9
I would love to see the proof of this because I dont think that it could happen and again hulk durability>>supermans.

And again WWH was cut, bled and pierced so many times that it wasn't even funny. The New X-Men knocked him on his ass, tore out his eyes, She Hulk bust his face open, as did Thing, Strong Guy staggered him, Juggernaut was kicking the shit out him. Apart from Juggernaut none of them come close to Superman's strength level, Superman puts his fist right through Hulk .

And Hulk was taken out by some lasers which aren't as powerful as Superman's HV because if they were sun levels they would have f*cked up everything around them.

Originally posted by The Pict
But he's not going at these comparable speeds, it' clear in the scan. Care to actually point out how I'm wrong?

Its already been established that Sentry can move at beyond the speed of light, and on at least 2 occasions these sort of attacks have been countered by Hulk.

That Blitz argument fails. Move along.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Its already been established that Sentry can move at beyond the speed of light, and on at least 2 occasions these sort of attacks have been countered by Hulk.

That Blitz argument fails. Move along.

I said that Sentry wasn't moving at light speeds in that fight as was shown in the scan and you've yet to prove me wrong. So once again want to actually show me how I'm wrong?

Tell me where Hulk countered a character moving at ftl speeds, he was swiping air half the time he tried to touch the X-Men 😂

Originally posted by iceman24567
The Hulk is like the Lakers he can only hang so long with the top dog Superman.

Actually Hulks such as Savage, Mindless, WWH, Maestro would all clearly outlast Superman in any skirmish.

There is simply no lasting damage Superman is capable of doing to stop Hulk due to his internal variable source of power, dynamic strength, and Insane HF. By the end of any battle, WWH would be pumped into insane powerlevels in both strength and healing....the longer it goes on the worse pounding Superman takes, simple.

Superman loses everytime because Hulk has already taken and overcome practically every attack that Superman is capable of throwing at him.

Originally posted by The Pict
I said that Sentry wasn't moving at light speeds in that fight as was shown in the scan and you've yet to prove me wrong. So once again want to actually show me how I'm wrong?

Tell me where Hulk countered a character moving at ftl speeds, he was swiping air half the time he tried to touch the X-Men 😂

Sentry is capable of beyond light speed travel. Whatever speed he was going in that particular panel is not important as we know it was fast as hell and was still countered....and its the second time it happened. Savage Hulk has been able to tag Quicksilver as well.

There are also comics where Superman gets nailed by strikes from the likes of Batman, Toyman and Hawkman, and Lex Luthor amongst man other slugs. Your point?

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Actually Hulks such as Savage, Mindless, WWH, Maestro would all clearly outlast Superman in any skirmish.

There is simply no lasting damage Superman is capable of doing to stop Hulk due to his internal variable source of power, dynamic strength, and Insane HF. By the end of any battle, WWH would be pumped into insane powerlevels in both strength and healing....the longer it goes on the worse pounding Superman takes, simple.

Superman loses everytime because Hulk has already taken and overcome practically every attack that Superman is capable of throwing at him.

😂 Except those weak ass lasers, though right? Supes melts Hulk with some sun level HV that's if he doesn't just speed blitz Hulk in win in a second. Try again.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
There are also comics where Superman gets nailed by strikes from the likes of Batman, Toyman and Hawkman, and Lex Luthor amongst man other slugs. Your point?

sentry wasnt trying to blitz hulk. superman would be.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
There are also comics where Superman gets nailed by strikes from the likes of Batman, Toyman and Hawkman, and Lex Luthor amongst man other slugs. Your point?

Superman was moving at top speeds then. You understand KMC rules right? There we go speedblitz for the win.