Originally posted by Raoul
i don't think people are saying he was moving slowly, but that he wasn't moving lightspeed...sentry has been proven to move at lightspeed? all well and good, but the point remains that sentry wanted a fist-fight, he wanted to get down and dirty; given how well sentry knows the hulk, i think he'd be a good judge of how fast is fast enough to hurt hulk, but not fast enough to blitz him...
slow? no, but lightspeed? i seriously doubt it...
How fast he was moving cant be proven, but the same goes for Superman when he is supposedly moving fast as well. All we know is that both Sentry and Superman can move and travel at beyond the speed of light.
However Sentry specifically indicatated that he wanted to "go all out" by testing his limits vs WWH, not just "get beat up" as some seem to imply.
Originally posted by Raoul
i don't think people are saying he was moving slowly, but that he wasn't moving lightspeed...sentry has been proven to move at lightspeed? all well and good, but the point remains that sentry wanted a fist-fight, he wanted to get down and dirty; given how well sentry knows the hulk, i think he'd be a good judge of how fast is fast enough to hurt hulk, but not fast enough to blitz him...
slow? no, but lightspeed? i seriously doubt it...
Sentry can easily reach lightspeed and he was there to defeat Hulk just because he was enjoying himself doesn't mean he held back on speed.
This was a more powerful version of Sentry and was drunk with power lightspeed is not a stretch. We can also assume that his punches were at superspeed because of the amount of energy he was producing.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
How fast he was moving cant be proven, but the same goes for Superman when he is supposedly moving fast as well. All we know is that both Sentry and Superman can move and travel at beyond the speed of light.However Sentry indicatated that he wanted to "go all out" by testing his limits vs WWH, not just "get beat up" as some seem to imply.
the both can move faster than light? i havent seen the scans of sentry moving that fast, but i have no problem giving the benefit of the doubt, given how highly he'd regarded in marvel...
though WHEN superman does decide to move fast, though, his opponents rarely even get a look in...
we're talking someone who is the exact opposite of sentry; superman would never intentionally let an opponent beat on him like that, his limits are known to nobody but himself, and its only when called upon does he use the full range of powers at his disposal...
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Sentry can easily reach lightspeed and he was there to defeat Hulk just because he was enjoying himself doesn't mean he held back on speed.This was a more powerful version of Sentry and was drunk with power lightspeed is not a stretch. We can also assume that his punches were at superspeed because of the amount of energy he was producing.
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sentry at one point was standing there letting hulk hit him, and asking him to hit him again... if thats not an indication that he wasn't trying to blitz him, i don't know what is...
Originally posted by The Pict
He wasn't moving at lightspeed because he wanted to trade blows with Hulk. That's why he was talking the whole fight.
He wanted to trade blows with the Hulk. He also wanted to charge him as well. He was there to deafeat him just because hes having fun doesn't mean he was holding back with speed.
Originally posted by The Pict
Does Sentry automatically start moving at lightpseed when confident? No. .
You missed the point he was drunk with power. When hes in that state hes amped and therefore more powerful.
Originally posted by The Pict
By KMC rules Superman will be going all out, that means moving at lightspeeds..
Theres also CIS. Superman does not always use all his powers.
Originally posted by The Pict
That's the one I'm talking about, where we see him coming for 3 panels, flying in a straight line into the Hulk,he was in no way moving at superspeeds there. You can keep pretending if you like but the proof's all there.
What do you mean not superspeed?
Originally posted by The Pict
That is the point, we're talking about WWH. In the comic WWH is shown to be not very durable so it would be easy for Superman to kill him, especially at lightspeeds
*shrug* Please read what I said again.
Thats because hes durability varies. When Grey Hulk got impaled by Wolverine he got pissed and started regenerating so fast it was like Wolverines claws where not even. :edit: were not even piercing him at all
If WWH wanted to he could have made himself so durable that they would not have pierced him at all. WWH wasn't even trying.
Originally posted by Raouli need my eyebrow smiley...
sentry at one point was standing there letting hulk hit him, and asking him to hit him again... if thats not an indication that he wasn't trying to blitz him, i don't know what is...
He wasn't trying to blitz him at that moment. That doesn't mean that before that he didn't try to charge Hulk at blitzing speed.
Just the fact that he let himself get hit doesn't mean his punches were not superfast.
Originally posted by Ha-Son
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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He wasn't trying to blitz him at that moment. That doesn't mean that before that he didn't try to charge Hulk at blitzing speed.Just the fact that he let himself get hit doesn't mean his punches were not superfast.
blitzing speed means you don't want to get hit, and you want to hit this guy as hard as you possibly can... which means one of two things: either sentry wasn't going fast enough, or his strength didnt match his speed...
Originally posted by Raoul
the both can move faster than light? i havent seen the scans of sentry moving that fast, but i have no problem giving the benefit of the doubt, given how highly he'd regarded in marvel...though WHEN superman does decide to move fast, though, his opponents rarely even get a look in...
we're talking someone who is the exact opposite of sentry; superman would never intentionally let an opponent beat on him like that, his limits are known to nobody but himself, and its only when called upon does he use the full range of powers at his disposal...
i need my eyebrow smiley...
sentry at one point was standing there letting hulk hit him, and asking him to hit him again... if thats not an indication that he wasn't trying to blitz him, i don't know what is...
Sentry flew from the earth to the sun and back in moments. thats a distance of basically a MINIMUM of 304 million km. To do that = EASILY more than a few times beyond the speed of light.
As far as the blitz is concerned, Sentry at the end of the fight said he expended all his energies going all out. I think it would indicate that he utilized his top speed, and power in an attempt to test his limits.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Sentry flew from the earth to the sun and back in moments. thats a distance of basically a MINIMUM of 304 million km. To do that = EASILY more than a few times beyond the speed of light.As far as the blitz is concerned, Sentry at the end of the fight said he expended all his energies going all out. I think it would indicate that he utilized his top speed, and power in an attempt to test his limits.
But apparently, it didn't.
It only meant that he poured out all his energy.
Originally posted by llagrok
But apparently, it didn't.It only meant that he poured out all his energy.
Correct, but he poured it all out and it failed vs WWH. Thats the point. Its like how most people dont think Hulk is fast enough to percieve and react to speed. Landing a Brutal strike at sentry moving at top speed on two occasions proves he can and has.
It kind of reminded me of Superman when poured out his reserves vs DD.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
And again I'd still like to know exactly what indicated to some people that Sentry appears to be moving at slow speeds to anyone in those panels.
Okay before I head off:
1. Hulk knows Sentry is coming, which is why he starts to bleat about what ever happens next. If Sentry was moving at top speeds he's be in there punching the snot out of Hulk in seconds.
2. We see Sentry flying in, I see him, you see him, Hulk see's him, half the people in the arena probably see him, Hulk is still talking away indicating time is passing (if he was at lighstpeeds again he would instantly be in Hulk's face)
3. We still see Sentry coming (in a straight line as well, anyone could "counter" Sentry at this point)
Sentry is not blurred or anything, he's no where near top speeds and anyone who thinks this is an indicator that Hulk could counter Superman at full speed (which he will be going due to KMC rules, no two ways about it) is being deliberately ignorant.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Correct, but he poured it all out and it failed vs WWH. Thats the point. Its like how most people dont think Hulk is fast enough to percieve and react to speed. Landing a Brutal strike at sentry moving at top speed on two occasions proves he can and has.It kind of reminded me of Superman when poured out his reserves vs DD.
When did Sentry move at top speed?
He could circle the globe before anyone would be able to speak, if he truly moves at lightspeed.
Originally posted by The Pict
Okay before I head off:1. Hulk knows Sentry is coming, which is why he starts to bleat about what ever happens next. If Sentry was moving at top speeds he's be in there punching the snot out of Hulk in seconds.
2. We see Sentry flying in, I see him, you see him, Hulk see's him, half the people in the arena probably see him, Hulk is still talking away indicating time is passing (if he was at lighstpeeds again he would instantly be in Hulk's face)
3. We still see Sentry coming (in a straight line as well, anyone could "counter" Sentry at this point)
Sentry is not blurred or anything, he's no where near top speeds and anyone who thinks this is an indicator that Hulk could counter Superman at full speed (which he will be going due to KMC rules, no two ways about it) is being deliberately ignorant.
Actually, Ignorance is not knowing that Hulk has been said to have highly enhanced perception many times over, to the extent where he can percieve cosmic entities and astral forms, as well as being able to react with enhanced reflexes.
1. WWH percieved Sentry even while moving at top speeds.
2. Superman and Wonderwoman and Flash all hold convo's while moving at supposedly top speeds. So what, this is a comic.
3. Not every comic uses a blur effect to indicate top speed. You see think quite often in Superman comics for instance.
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Originally posted by horrorwolf
Sentry flew from the earth to the sun and back in moments. thats a distance of basically a MINIMUM of 304 million km. To do that = EASILY more than a few times beyond the speed of light.As far as the blitz is concerned, Sentry at the end of the fight said he expended all his energies going all out. I think it would indicate that he utilized his top speed, and power in an attempt to test his limits.
then it seems contradictory, imo...
By now, it should be clear that travel speed isn't equal to combat speed 😬
Originally posted by The Pict
*skip*Okay before I head off:
1. Hulk knows Sentry is coming, which is why he starts to bleat about what ever happens next. If Sentry was moving at top speeds he's be in there punching the snot out of Hulk in seconds.
2. We see Sentry flying in, I see him, you see him, Hulk see's him, half the people in the arena probably see him, Hulk is still talking away indicating time is passing (if he was at lighstpeeds again he would instantly be in Hulk's face)
3. We still see Sentry coming (in a straight line as well, anyone could "counter" Sentry at this point)
Sentry is not blurred or anything, he's no where near top speeds and anyone who thinks this is an indicator that Hulk could counter Superman at full speed (which he will be going due to KMC rules, no two ways about it) is being deliberately ignorant.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Maybe, or maybe WWH is simply fast enough to react to his speed when he reallys want to.Actually Superman's comic run has been more contradictory than most any comic I've ever read.
there was NOTHING in wwh, imo, to give the impression that hulk can react to anything approaching ftl speeds... even in that scan pict posted, hulk gets out a few words before being struck...
unless he's turned into busta rhymes, i don't see how that makes the sentry to be blitzing speed...
as far as superman is concerned, thats mainly due to how long he's been around and how many issues... different writers will always have their own ideas about certain things, and given his ever increasing power since COIE, it could easily be seen as being contradictory...