Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Originally posted by The Pict
Sentry is no Superman and he wasn't using his speed against Hulk either. He was having a casual conversation with him

Yeah he did he tried to rush him. Im also going to assume the speed at which he was punching was at superspeed.

Sentry does have feats on the level of Superman. Sentrys's feat vary but when hes confident thats when he was at his most powerful. Sentry was confident.

Originally posted by The Pict

1. Superman is much more durable than any Hulk, even WWH. He was pierced, cut and bloodied by the likes of the new X-Men, She Hulk and Thing. They wouldn't leave a mark on Supes. Hell Hulk's arms were immobilised by knifes.

Thats because hes durability varies. When Grey Hulk got impaled by Wolverine he got pissed and started regenerating so fast it was like Wolverines claws where not even.

If WWH wanted to he could have made himself so durable that they would not have pierced him at all. WWH wasn't even trying. 😬

Originally posted by The Pict

2. Superman has a thing called regeneration..

Proof?

Originally posted by The Pict

3. Superman can get amped in regeneration due to the sun. Whenever he feels like it he could give himself a boost. Not that it matters because before Hulk even knows what's going on Superman has torn his head off.

Sentry used speed and Hulk has fought people with FTL speed and stomped them.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Sentry is capable of beyond light speed travel. Whatever speed he was going in that particular panel is not important as we know it was fast as hell and was still countered....and its the second time it happened. Savage Hulk has been able to tag Quicksilver as well.

It IS importnat because Superman will be going at lightpseed and as Hulk only countered Sentry moving at slow speeds (we see him coming for 3 panels) it's still to be shown how Hulk could hope to react against Superman.

Quicksilver...Wow he's so close to Superman man speed, get outta here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cant believe this is what you think seals the deal. Superman hiding in space and hoping his heat vision hits Hulk because he knows the moment Hulk grabs him it ends. 😂

Goes to space and fires heat vision. Thats a riot.

Especially versus Hulk.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah he did he tried to rush him. Im also going to assume the speed at which he was punching was at superspeed.

Sentry does have feats on the level of Superman. Sentrys's feat vary but when hes confident thats when he was at his most powerful. Sentry was confident.

We see Sentry coming for 3 panels, Hulk see's him coming so speels off the whole "whatever happens next" speech. That's not superspeed. You can deny it as much as you like but it's there in the scan.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats because hes durability varies. When Grey Hulk got impaled by Wolverine he got pissed and started regenerating so fast it was like Wolverines claws where not even.

If WWH wanted to he could have made himself so durable that they would not have pierced him at all. WWH wasn't even trying. 😬

The point is he was constantly getting injured by characters who have a fraction of Superman's strength in the comic. So Superman has no trouble wiping the floor with him.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Sentry used speed and Hulk has fought people with FTL speed and stomped them.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Proof?

Originally posted by The Pict
It IS importnat because Superman will be going at lightpseed and as Hulk only countered Sentry moving at slow speeds (we see him coming for 3 panels) it's still to be shown how Hulk could hope to react against Superman.

Quicksilver...Wow he's so close to Superman man speed, get outta here.

Look, Superman is capable of >>>QuickSilver.
QS moving at close to top speeds to avoid Hulk and getting easily percieved and nailed again shows that the blitz argument fails vs Hulk.

1. Superman doesnt usually ever fight using "blitzes"
2. They arent really effective as Hulk can and often counters them.
3. You don't know how fast Sentry was moving. We do know Sentry can move at +light speeds. Your claim that he somehow seem to be moving slowing in those panels says a lot though. 🙄

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Especially versus Hulk.

Superman is in space, fires heat vision at Hulk, Hulk loses....sound famliar? Oh yeah that's kinda what happened at the end of WWH and how Hulk lost.
And the HV will be far hotter than thos lasers.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Look, Superman is capable of >>>QuickSilver.
QS moving at close to top speeds to avoid Hulk and getting easily percieved and nailed again shows that the blitz argument fails vs Hulk.

1. Superman doesnt usually ever fight using "blitzes"
2. They arent really effective as Hulk can and often counters them.
3. You don't know how fast Sentry was moving. We do know Sentry can move at +light speeds. Your claim that he somehow seem to be moving slowing in those panels says a lot though. 🙄

You are being very ignorant here:

1. READ THE KMC RULE FOR GOD'S SAKE, HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE REPEATED?
2. Not when they are moving at lightspeeds, which he never has like you keep insisting. Get a clue.
3. No but I can see he was going slow. Are you going to ignore the evidenc in the scans? (you probably are) did you actually read WWH?

My claims true, look at the scan in this thread. That ends your argument. Next point?

Originally posted by The Pict
It IS importnat because Superman will be going at lightpseed and as Hulk only countered Sentry moving at slow speeds (we see him coming for 3 panels) it's still to be shown how Hulk could hope to react against Superman.

Quicksilver...Wow he's so close to Superman man speed, get outta here.

Its not even a stretch to say that Sentry was moving at lightspeed. Sentry in this fight was not the self-doubting pansey version, this is the Terrax axe breaking version.

Sentry was drunk with power and was there for the pupose of taking WWH out. Saying that he flew at lightspeed is not a stretch.

Im pretty sure though there are examples of Superman speedblitzing but we don't know wether it was at the speed of light or not, but we just know its damn fast.

Originally posted by The Pict
We see Sentry coming for 3 panels, Hulk see's him coming so speels off the whole "whatever happens next" speech. That's not superspeed. You can deny it as much as you like but it's there in the scan

Er have you seen the scan of Sentry flying at WWH and WWH punching him?

Originally posted by The Pict

The point is he was constantly getting injured by characters who have a fraction of Superman's strength in the comic. So Superman has no trouble wiping the floor with him.

No thats not the point. Read what I said again.

Thats because hes durability varies. When Grey Hulk got impaled by Wolverine he got pissed and started regenerating so fast it was like Wolverines claws where not even. :edit: were not even piercing him at all

If WWH wanted to he could have made himself so durable that they would not have pierced him at all. WWH wasn't even trying.

P.S. Please don't take the mick I asked you for proof first.

Originally posted by The Pict
😂 Except those weak ass lasers, though right? Supes melts Hulk with some sun level HV that's if he doesn't just speed blitz Hulk in win in a second. Try again.

lol...your Weak ass lasers as you put it were designed to drain and negates Hulks powers, and they have 0 relevancy to Hulks invulnerability to heat rays.

Originally posted by The Pict
You are being very ignorant here:

1. READ THE KMC RULE FOR GOD'S SAKE, HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE REPEATED?
2. Not when they are moving at lightspeeds, which he never has like you keep insisting. Get a clue.
3. No but I can see he was going slow. Are you going to ignore the evidenc in the scans? (you probably are) did you actually read WWH?

My claims true, look at the scan in this thread. That ends your argument. Next point?

Look there is simply 0 evidence of Sentry slowly flying toward WWH in those panels. The reason Bada posted it was because it appears he was moving at high speeds, not slowly when WWH countered it. If anything it appeared to possibly be a blitz counter argument....yet you somehow say it appears Sentry was moving slowly?

Why anyone would think Sentry is moving at anything close to a slow flight speed those specific panels is beyond me. Can you please tell me what indicates to you that Sentry is moving SLOWLY please?

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Look there is simply 0 evidence of Sentry slowly flying toward WWH in those panels. The reason Bada posted it was because If anything it appears he was moving quickly, not slowly when WWH counted it. If anything it appeared to possibly be a blitz counter argument.

Why anyone would think Sentry is moving at anything close to a slow flight speed that panel is beyond me. Can you please tell me what indicates to you that Sentry is moving SLOWLY please?

He wanted WWH to hit him, he enjoyed it, he said it himself.

Sentry wanted a slugfest, he took everything WWH could give him and returned the favor. He did not fight smart or fast, just brutal like WWH.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Its not even a stretch to say that Sentry was moving at lightspeed. Sentry in this fight was not the self-doubting pansey version, this is the Terrax axe breaking version.

Sentry was drunk with power and was there for the pupose of taking WWH out. Saying that he flew at lightspeed is not a stretch.

Im pretty sure though there are examples of Superman speedblitzing but we don't know wether it was at the speed of light or not, but we just know its damn fast.

He wasn't moving at lightspeed because he wanted to trade blows with Hulk. That's why he was talking the whole fight.

Does Sentry automatically start moving at lightpseed when confident? No.

By KMC rules Superman will be going all out, that means moving at lightspeeds.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er have you seen the scan of Sentry flying at WWH and WWH punching him?

That's the one I'm talking about, where we see him coming for 3 panels, flying in a straight line into the Hulk,he was in no way moving at superspeeds there. You can keep pretending if you like but the proof's all there.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No thats not the point. Read what I said again.

Thats because hes durability varies. When Grey Hulk got impaled by Wolverine he got pissed and started regenerating so fast it was like Wolverines claws where not even.

If WWH wanted to he could have made himself so durable that they would not have pierced him at all. WWH wasn't even trying.

That is the point, we're talking about WWH. In the comic WWH is shown to be not very durable so it would be easy for Superman to kill him, especially at lightspeeds

I'll come back to this later, I have work now.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Look there is simply 0 evidence of Sentry slowly flying toward WWH in those panels. The reason Bada posted it was because it appears he was moving at high speeds, not slowly when WWH countered it. If anything it appeared to possibly be a blitz counter argument....yet you somehow say it appears Sentry was moving slowly?

Why anyone would think Sentry is moving at anything close to a slow flight speed those specific panels is beyond me. Can you please tell me what indicates to you that Sentry is moving SLOWLY please?

There's every evidence. It's in the scan but I don't have time to keep repeating myself to you.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
lol...your Weak ass lasers as you put it were designed to drain and negates Hulks powers, and they have 0 relevancy to Hulks invulnerability to heat rays.

Except they were gonna use them on Sentry at all so they weren't designed for Hulk. Stop making things up.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He wanted WWH to hit him, he enjoyed it, he said it himself.

Sentry wanted a slugfest, he took everything WWH could give him and returned the favor. He did not fight smart or fast, just brutal like WWH.

Thats a good argument Batman.

I think the only problem is that Sentry still seems to be moving extremely fast...dispite "wanting" to go toe to toe. The other issue is that Sentry's +lightspeed ability would have likely been put to use when he claimed to be "happy to be able finally go all out" in their slugfest.

Originally posted by The Pict
Except they were gonna use them on Sentry at all so they weren't designed for Hulk. Stop making things up.

1. They were utilized to negate WWH's powers not as heat lasers.

WWH's durabilty vs heat has no bearing here.
Next...

And again I'd still like to know exactly what indicated to some people that Sentry appears to be moving at slow speeds to anyone in those panels.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
And again I'd still like to know exactly what indicated to some people that Sentry appears to be moving at slow speeds to anyone in those panels.

i don't think people are saying he was moving slowly, but that he wasn't moving lightspeed...

sentry has been proven to move at lightspeed? all well and good, but the point remains that sentry wanted a fist-fight, he wanted to get down and dirty; given how well sentry knows the hulk, i think he'd be a good judge of how fast is fast enough to hurt hulk, but not fast enough to blitz him...

slow? no, but lightspeed? i seriously doubt it...

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not even going to bother responding to the rest of your post. Complete and utter denial. Lets translate.

there's really no need for that.