Originally posted by Juk3n
The fight will go the way of DoS. Given supes can fly a light speed and DD weighed in at oh, say about 1.5 tones maybe 2, he could have launched/carried DD into orbit in about 0.0000038 seconds and proceeded to have the upperhand in space. BUT..because Supes fights likea moron sometimes he tried to brawl it out. Hulk out brawls him.For every instance showing supes using superspeed against a non super speeded opponent, i can show you one with a non-superspeed opponent throttling Supes. So many that it could be argued the norm that - while in supes power to do so - he doesnt fight to his best capability nearly NEVER. Were not arguing the 'superman powerset' vs 'the hulk powerset' were arguing characters. Would Supes be a blur to Hulk if they fought? um no. Not by showings. And when people say supes doesnt want to be touched - he wont...just what exactly are you saying about his intelligence if he 'wants' to take all these blows he can so easily avoid..lol.
The reasoning here is starting to get a little H1a8 'spiderman can't be touched by any street leveller' ummkay...
CISless, i'll grant superman all the wins he wants,Cisless is powerset vs powerset. This fight isnt, Hulk Pounds.
DOS was over fifteen years ago.
and you're forgetting several very important points about Superman, mainly that when he sees that he can't win by simply brawling, he uses all his powers. it's why he almost never loses.
Originally posted by carver9
When it comes to combat, no he is not one of the fastest.Him creating sonic booms during punches doesnt make him one of the fastest. You really have no showings to prove that he is untouchable to Hulk like characters because in every fight that he gets in with a brick, he has been hit.
I also never stated that Superman doesnt possess combat speed bc he does. Does he possess enough combat speed NOT to get hit by WWH, there is where we disagree.
For every one scan that you show me of Superman not being hit by a brick like character, I can show you 10 where he IS being hit.
dude, seriously, we've been through this. you know that what you just posted is lacking context. severely.
and yes, he IS one of the fastest. he's proven it.
Originally posted by Juk3n
This not an arguments of 'powerset' vs 'powerset' because there would be no argument, supes would win , hands down. And this is not CISless. Superman ENTIRE career of brawling cannot just be thrown out the window, his entire career can't be PIS. Well it can i suppose, bu then you gotta ask yourself..whats more likley, Supermans entire 40+(however long) career of brawling vastly slower characters is PIS? Or Superman fights like a moron ALOT?In Forum battles like this, rules state combatans still fight in-character, unless stated to be a CISless battle.
2 things come into question, 1) Does Hulk do very well when taking on beings vastly faster than him? Yes. Thor/Sentry/Gladiator/More.
2) Does Superman (despite his vastly superior speed) end up brawlin the MAJORITY of the time against SLOWER opponents? Yes. In this fight, They will Brawl, for a long time, and in the end Hulk will out-brawl any Herald.
that's not actually true.
it is IN character for superman to use his powers with more variety when coming up against powerful foes. he's only been doing it for oh, a decade or so.
Originally posted by -Pr-it is IN character for superman to use his powers with more variety when coming up against powerful foes. he's only been doing it for oh, a decade or so.
mmkay, so which one of his variety pack powers will he down hulk with again? the freezy? or the fire? Hulk would lol at him.
Originally posted by Juk3n
mmkay, so which one of his variety pack powers will he down hulk with again? the freezy? or the fire? Hulk would lol at him.
heat vision and freeze breath are both capable of giving hulk trouble.
and as cdtm said, a wind vortex doesn't hurt either.
and of course, then there's his speed, which he can use to make hulk's anger pretty redundant.
sounds like a stalemate to me, im sure sand in his eyes is 'capable of giving him trouble' lol - what does that even mean? Im sure im missing something.
We know it's in Supermans capability to avoid being hit by Hulk for thr rest of his life. And im with you on that point, whether he speedblitzes slow lumbering foes (compared to him) as the norm or not. So we have a 100+ page of debate where one person can't see the other, or touch him, prolly not smell him or even sense him. So whats the debate exactly? This thread is obviously a) stalemate (because giving someone some trouble doesn't cause theem to lapse into unconsciousnes) or b) Spite 10000/10000 in Supermans favour for reasons stated above.
But for it to be spite someone must do something.
What in Supermans Arsenal puts down Hulk? is the question.
The ANSWER (the straite answer) is??
Originally posted by Juk3n
so the answer is Superman - in a complete out of character showing - Heat visions Hulks Head off for the win.it's all so clear now.
who said anything about his head?
i was talking arms or legs, which he's done before when he's known his enemy could grow them back.
basic knowledge of the hulk would include a strong HF.