Originally posted by RaoulI am not using them as low feats. I just don't like how people want to falsely assume that Superman is out of the Hulk's weight class when he can't easily beat these dc bricks.
ah. i'll have to pick it up.he also got smacked around by iron man during their fight. no matter how strong or durable people are, they can still get knocked back or up in to the air or whatever. it happens to everyone. not saying it had to happen, just that it could have.
and its another example of why the x-men were underwritten, imo.
colossus isn't like that, though. the x-men weren't fighting to kill hulk, they just wanted to stop him. colossus knows he can't match the hulk strength wise, so him going in like that is against his character. and darwin? jeez that guy is overrated. no offence man, i know its not you, but darwin gets wanked pretty hard when he doesn't have that many great feats. its potential rather than actual proven ability.
first of all: lulz at you trying to use them as some sort of low feats.
second: superman was scared, sure, but doomsday isn't quite the one dimensional brick you make him out to be. he was built purely to kill superman. his strength, durability and reflexes equal that of superman's most of the time.
third, konvikt did take on the jla, but superman himself stated he could bring konvikt down. even diana was holding her own at one point.
I get that Doomsday adapts. Their first battle was a stalemate and the second Doomsday won hard. Hulk's healing factor and strength are well beyond Superman's.
A much weaker version of Hulk took on Gladiator who at the time tried bfring him into space. Hulk thunderclapped him back down to earth so we actually see this method tried on the Hulk by Superman's virtual double in marvel.
Superman stating he can bring down Konvikt doesn't constitute as proof itself. He had help and didn't easily defeat him. Two characters taking shots at a common opponent isn't the same as engaging him one on one.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not using them as low feats. I just don't like how people want to falsely assume that Superman is out of the Hulk's weight class when he can't easily beat these dc bricks.I get that Doomsday adapts. Their first battle was a stalemate and the second Doomsday won hard. Hulk's healing factor and strength are well beyond Superman'
his strength is not beyonds superman's, and even when he gets to be it wouldnt be well beyond
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
IF only DC fanboiz allowed this argument to fly when discussing Silver Surfer vs Any DC character, hm? 😉
marvel fans on this board are worse than the DC ones. hell, we even banned the two biggest DC ones, and people are still whining about it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not using them as low feats. I just don't like how people want to falsely assume that Superman is out of the Hulk's weight class when he can't easily beat these dc bricks.I get that Doomsday adapts. Their first battle was a stalemate and the second Doomsday won hard. Hulk's healing factor and strength are well beyond Superman's.
A much weaker version of Hulk took on Gladiator who at the time tried bfring him into space. Hulk thunderclapped him back down to earth so we actually see this method tried on the Hulk by Superman's virtual double in marvel.
Superman stating he can bring down Konvikt doesn't constitute as proof itself. He had help and didn't easily defeat him. Two characters taking shots at a common opponent isn't the same as engaging him one on one.
nobody said superman was out of hulk's weight class.
can you prove his (hulk's) strength is beyond superman's without just saying it is and leaving it at that?
the assumption that gladiator and superman are equal when there are differences a plenty is just silly.
superman said he could. if he says he can do something, he rarely can't. also, he left diana alone to fight konvikt, and she did fine. before she did, superman was fighting him one on one and doing fine. superman only left to go help batman.
Originally posted by RaoulLet's see Hulk holding that plates together in planet Hulk or him easily smashing an asteroid twice the size of earth while Superman get laid out by the moon. His basic powerset puts no limit on his strength to boot. The angrier Superman makes him the stronger he is going to become. All this tells me that he is stronger than Superman.
marvel fans on this board are worse than the DC ones. hell, we even banned the two biggest DC ones, and people are still whining about it.nobody said superman was out of hulk's weight class.
can you prove his (hulk's) strength is beyond superman's without just saying it is and leaving it at that?
the assumption that gladiator and superman are equal when there are differences a plenty is just silly.
superman said he could. if he says he can do something, he rarely can't. also, he left diana alone to fight konvikt, and she did fine. before she did, superman was fighting him one on one and doing fine. superman only left to go help batman.
Hulk has the edge in strength and healing factor. Supes has speed and overall versatility. Both would give each other headaches.
Gladiator has smashed a planet to pieces in a few blows. Superman hasn't. I am not saying they are exactly the same as their feats vary greatly, but he is a blatant ripoff off Superman just like Doomsday is off the Hulk.
Superman also said MM was the most powerful member of the jla and that Thor was the greatest enemy he faced up until that time. We can't just take his statements as factual without having seen him do so.
Yes, they both managed to handle their own, but he wasn't completely fresh and the whole story was to show the threat he was to the jla not just WW by herself or Superman by his lonesome.
Originally posted by xJLxKingI can post comparative examples of them both running into a huge land mass. One easily does it while the other doesn't. The rest of their strength feats only happen basically in their own unique situations so it turns into a Hulk can't do that argument. Then I'lll say look at Hulk here, Superman can't do that.
You only talk, but when it's time to post scan or even example you run.Superman's base strenght surpasses WWH base strenght by a lot
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixHe is based off of the Hulk just like the Sentry is based off of Superman. He isn't an exact clone, but you bet your ass they based him off of the Hulk.
DD is not a clone seeing as he has no rage boost, nor gamma related powers nor does he have a simiar origin nor 20 different personalities or colors.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
DD is not a clone seeing as he has no rage boost, nor gamma related powers nor does he have a simiar origin nor 20 different personalities or colors.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I can post comparative examples of them both running into a huge land mass. One easily does it while the other doesn't. The rest of their strength feats only happen basically in their own unique situations so it turns into a Hulk can't do that argument. Then I'lll say look at Hulk here, Superman can't do that.
Being shot out of a canon at an asteroid, is now comparable to going just under lightspeed and performing an IMP on a moon matter of dark matter? 🤨