Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=69651
i am not feeling that costume at all.. i hope there are lots of good martial arts action and a good story
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=69651
i am not feeling that costume at all.. i hope there are lots of good martial arts action and a good story
Re: Captain America Costume
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=69651
I'm only feeling the stuntman is overweight, with that fat neck.
I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet (I'm to lazy to read 22 pages XD):
The director doesn't want Cap to be patriotic and will change him into a "good person". This is complete bullcrap. HIS PATRIOTISM IS WHAT MAKES HIM CAPTAIN AMERICA. It is the most important thing about his character. I can't believe they're stupid enough to move ahead with this decision.
I predict that Cap is screwed.
Originally posted by spidermanrocks
I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet (I'm to lazy to read 22 pages XD):The director doesn't want Cap to be patriotic and will change him into a "good person". This is complete bullcrap. HIS PATRIOTISM IS WHAT MAKES HIM CAPTAIN AMERICA. It is the most important thing about his character. I can't believe they're stupid enough to move ahead with this decision.
I predict that Cap is screwed.
It's not bullcrap. Why do you think Cap gets admiration beyond the borders of the USA? He enlists because he wants to help his country in a time of crisis, not because of a belief in American superiority. That's why he goes as far as volunteering for Operation Rebirth when he's declared unfit.
Originally posted by roughrider
It's not bullcrap. Why do you think Cap gets admiration beyond the borders of the USA? He enlists because he wants to help his country in a time of crisis, not because of a belief in American superiority. That's why he goes as far as volunteering for Operation Rebirth when he's declared unfit.
Wanting to help your own country is considered to be an act of patriotism. And you think being patriotic mean belief in American superiority? That is not the full definition of patriotism. Not everything that's patriotic is bad. Patriotism could be a positive thing in many situations. Cap loved his country and that's why he decided to help it. Removing his patriotism does not seem like a good idea to me.
Wanting to help your own country is considered to be an act of patriotism. And you think being patriotic mean belief in American superiority? That is not the full definition of patriotism. Not everything that's patriotic is bad. Patriotism could be a positive thing in many situations. Cap loved his country and that's why he decided to help it. THAT is considered to be real and intelligent patriotism. Removing his patriotism does not seem like a good idea to me.
Originally posted by spidermanrocks
Wanting to help your own country is considered to be an act of patriotism. And you think being patriotic mean belief in American superiority? That is not the full definition of patriotism. Not everything that's patriotic is bad. Patriotism could be a positive thing in many situations. Cap loved his country and that's why he decided to help it. THAT is considered to be real and intelligent patriotism. Removing his patriotism does not seem like a good idea to me.
His kind of patriotism shouldn't be confused with the kind held by more extremist characters like US Agent, or even Ultimate Captain America who is more jingoistic. That's all. He shouldn't be confused with someone like Gen. Patton.
I remember reading this in a comic book, where Cap quoted this to Peter Parker, I think (was it in a Civil War issue?). Anyway, it has since become one of my favourite Mark Twain quotes, as it completely redefined patriotism for me (and made Cap a much more interesting character):
"Against our traditions we are now entering upon an unjust and trivial war, a war against a helpless people, and for a base object — robbery. At first our citizens spoke out against this thing, by an impulse natural to their training. Today they have turned, and their voice is the other way. What caused the change? Merely a politician's trick — a high-sounding phrase, a blood-stirring phrase which turned their uncritical heads: Our Country, right or wrong! An empty phrase, a silly phrase. It was shouted by every newspaper, it was thundered from the pulpit, the Superintendent of Public Instruction placarded it in every schoolhouse in the land, the War Department inscribed it upon the flag. And every man who failed to shout it or who was silent, was proclaimed a traitor — none but those others were patriots. To be a patriot, one had to say, and keep on saying, "Our Country, right or wrong," and urge on the little war. Have you not perceived that that phrase is an insult to the nation?
For in a republic, who is "the Country"? Is it the Government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the Government is merely a servant--merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them. Who, then, is "the Country"? Is it the newspaper? is it the pulpit? is it the school superintendent? Why, these are mere parts of the country, not the whole of it; they have not command, they have only their little share in the command. They are but one in the thousand; it is in the thousand that command is lodged; they must determine what is right and what is wrong; they must decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Who are the thousand--that is to say, who are "the Country"? In a monarchy, the king and his family are the country; in a republic it is the common voice of the people.
Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak. And it is a solemn and weighty responsibility, and not lightly to be flung aside at the bullying of pulpit, press, government, or the empty catch-phrases of politicians. Each must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, and which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide it against your convictions is to be an unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. If you alone of all the nation shall decide one way, and that way be the right way according to your convictions of the right, you have done your duty by yourself and by your country--hold up your head! You have nothing to be ashamed of."
Long live Captain America...
First Look at Hayley Atwell in Captain America
Re: First Look at Hayley Atwell in Captain America
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70104
Nice. Chris Evans also looks good in the plainclothes still.
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70104
she looks good, looks like
Originally posted by Kazenji
Where did you hear that?
Right here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BrentSprecher/news/?a=20633
Apparently they're de-winging him.
Originally posted by Scythe
Right here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BrentSprecher/news/?a=20633Apparently they're de-winging him.
Hmmm...
Let's see how they use him.
Originally posted by roughrider
It's not bullcrap. Why do you think Cap gets admiration beyond the borders of the USA? He enlists because he wants to help his country in a time of crisis, not because of a belief in American superiority. That's why he goes as far as volunteering for Operation Rebirth when he's declared unfit.
The point of the character is that he loves AMERICA AND ITS IDEALS enough to do so. That's what he stands for. Not because he just loves helping people in general. That's what Superman is for. He's the super-humanitarian, not Captain AMERICA. He stands by the Constitution and the Stars and Stripes. That's his gimmick.
Captain America is the epitome of a man who loves his country and its ideals.