The First Avenger: Captain America

Started by SpaceMonkey39 pages

Pic of Red Skull holding the Cosmic Cube over at SuperHeroHype.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/113377-captain-americas-cosmic-cube-revealed

not a bad pic at all

got the same pic as before and also Concept art for Red Skull

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2011/01/10/gaze-upon-the-cosmic-cube-and-red-skull-in-new-captain-america-photos/

I hope they aren't going to go as far as what we've seen in the Avengers animated series, where HYDRA completely replaced the Nazis as Cap's foes in WW2(it was like they didn't exist.) They shouldn't, since it's already established in the first Iron Man that Howard Stark helped defeat the Nazis; not HYDRA. Just keep them as a spinoff group of the Nazis, just like SHIELD spun off from the US Government.

New Photo of Chris Evans as Captain America

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=73240

I REALLY! hope I'm wrong but I constantly feel more and more like Cap is gonna be the weak link in the Avengers movie franchise. I've jus yet to see anything truly promising about this film other then Hugo Weaving being cast as Red Skull and the shield looks awesome.

Hate the thought of Evans playing the serious and heart felt part of Steve Rodgers. It makes about as much sense as Ryan Reynolds playing Hal Jordan but luckily I've always hated Jordan's character so I couldn't care less if they fu*k up his movie. The costume doesn't really look all that bad so much as it just doesn't really look that good. It doesn't wow or pop with impressiveness the way it should as most all the marvel movies lately have, IMO.

I jus worry that for Avengers to work, I mean really work, Cap is gonna have to at the very least hold its own at being just as good as the others leading into this movie, preferable being the best of them all, seeing that Cap will be the teams leader and heart. Believe me I had been extremely skeptical from the start as to if a real Avengers movie would even ever happen much less work from the very beginning. But I've slowly became less and less of a skeptic and more convinced it could happen as it draws closer. That is except for when I found out Evans was cast as Cap, and nothing about the movie I've learned since has done much to reduce that concern.

I'm jus mainly very worried this will be the weak link in the Avengers movie chain.
And what is it they say about chains and weak links again? 😬

Originally posted by roughrider
I hope they aren't going to go as far as what we've seen in the Avengers animated series, where HYDRA completely replaced the Nazis as Cap's foes in WW2(it was like they didn't exist.) They shouldn't, since it's already established in the first Iron Man that Howard Stark helped defeat the Nazis; not HYDRA. Just keep them as a spinoff group of the Nazis, just like SHIELD spun off from the US Government.
I'm not sure about the age difference of Howard Stark in that episode - in Tony's WW2 photo Howard was shown as an adult standing with Captain America in the early 40s. He must have had Tony when he was in his 60s or something!

And the total rewrite of history was just bizarre. Why? Was it Disney toning things down? Something to
do with ratings and content and not being allowed to show nazis? Political correctness for fear of offending germans?

It would seem that the war was completely different in the animated continuity. From the 'newsreel' Germany seemed to be just one of the victim countries taken over in the war as Hydra swept out of the east. The allies didn't even really achieve total victory - Hydra is still a significant power in the present day and the major Hydra leaders (Baron whathisname and Zemo) survived and are still active, no doubt Red Skull as well. And what part did Japan play?

That was one of the most stupid creative decisions I have seen in a long time and I really hope it isn't in the movie - it would ruin it.

Originally posted by basilisk
I'm not sure about the age difference of Howard Stark in that episode - in Tony's WW2 photo Howard was shown as an adult standing with Captain America in the early 40s. He must have had Tony when he was in his 60s or something!

And the total rewrite of history was just bizarre. Why? Was it Disney toning things down? Something to
do with ratings and content and not being allowed to show nazis? Political correctness for fear of offending germans?

It would seem that the war was completely different in the animated continuity. From the 'newsreel' Germany seemed to be just one of the victim countries taken over in the war as Hydra swept out of the east. The allies didn't even really achieve total victory - Hydra is still a significant power in the present day and the major Hydra leaders (Baron whathisname and Zemo) survived and are still active, no doubt Red Skull as well. And what part did Japan play?

That was one of the most stupid creative decisions I have seen in a long time and I really hope it isn't in the movie - it would ruin it.

I don't know what photo you're referring to. The montage at the beginning of Iron Man? That could have come from the 1960's to the 1970's. Don't remember any photo of him with Cap.

Dominic Cooper is playing the young Howard Stark. He is only in his early 30's, so he could be playing Howard as a 20-something wunderkind. The Expo footage of Howard from Iron Man 2 (which apparently is from 1974) suggests he is in his mid-50's, to my eyes.
So maybe a birthdate around 1920 is reasonable. Tony is certainly established as being born in the late 1960's.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Pic of Red Skull holding the Cosmic Cube over at SuperHeroHype.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/113377-captain-americas-cosmic-cube-revealed

Why the hell does red skull have a Cosmic Cube? And not a red skull for a head?

Originally posted by roughrider
I don't know what photo you're referring to. The montage at the beginning of Iron Man? That could have come from the 1960's to the 1970's. Don't remember any photo of him with Cap.

Dominic Cooper is playing the young Howard Stark. He is only in his early 30's, so he could be playing Howard as a 20-something wunderkind. The Expo footage of Howard from Iron Man 2 (which apparently is from 1974) suggests he is in his mid-50's, to my eyes.
So maybe a birthdate around 1920 is reasonable. Tony is certainly established as being born in the late 1960's.

No, I wasn't referring to anything in the movie (can't remember exactly what they showed in that). But in that same episode of the animated series, Tony shows Captain America his photo of Cap with Howard Stark back in WW2. It must have been WW2 because Cap disappeared before the war ended... Assuming Howard Stark was born around 1920 that would make him 23-25 by that point which is reasonable for a genius industrialist to be established. If Tony was was born around 1968-70 then Howard was 48-50 when he had Tony - late but reasonable I guess. However Tony strikes me as well under 40 these days which would make Howard more towards 60 when he fathered Tony. But then Tony's age seems to vary depending on artist, how the writer depicts his behaviour, dialogue, and personality, and which continuity it is.

Still none of that is any real issue, the Hydra mess is.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Why the hell does red skull have a Cosmic Cube? And not a red skull for a head?

I was reading up on Red Skull he gets the mask from Hitler so i don't know what they're doing with him for the movie 😬

Originally posted by basilisk
No, I wasn't referring to anything in the movie (can't remember exactly what they showed in that). But in that same episode of the animated series, Tony shows Captain America his photo of Cap with Howard Stark back in WW2. It must have been WW2 because Cap disappeared before the war ended... Assuming Howard Stark was born around 1920 that would make him 23-25 by that point which is reasonable for a genius industrialist to be established. If Tony was was born around 1968-70 then Howard was 48-50 when he had Tony - late but reasonable I guess. However Tony strikes me as well under 40 these days which would make Howard more towards 60 when he fathered Tony. But then Tony's age seems to vary depending on artist, how the writer depicts his behaviour, dialogue, and personality, and which continuity it is.

Still none of that is any real issue, the Hydra mess is.

In comics Captain dissapeared after the war didn't he?

Originally posted by Bentley
In comics Captain dissapeared after the war didn't he?
I'm pretty sure the comic version of Steve Rogers Captain America also disappeared just before the end of the war. He would have known the allies were going to win but they hadn't won yet.

Another Image

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/113844-another-new-image-from-captain-america

Originally posted by basilisk
No, I wasn't referring to anything in the movie (can't remember exactly what they showed in that). But in that same episode of the animated series, Tony shows Captain America his photo of Cap with Howard Stark back in WW2. It must have been WW2 because Cap disappeared before the war ended... Assuming Howard Stark was born around 1920 that would make him 23-25 by that point which is reasonable for a genius industrialist to be established. If Tony was was born around 1968-70 then Howard was 48-50 when he had Tony - late but reasonable I guess. However Tony strikes me as well under 40 these days which would make Howard more towards 60 when he fathered Tony. But then Tony's age seems to vary depending on artist, how the writer depicts his behaviour, dialogue, and personality, and which continuity it is.

Still none of that is any real issue, the Hydra mess is.

Oh, well that's fine then. The animated series and the movies are in separate continuities. One is not canon to the other.

Another pic of Evans as captain america. not sure if it was posted before, but i couldn't get into one of the links above because my work blocks that site.

http://www.moviesonline.ca/2011/01/marvel-madness-chris-evans-captain-america/#

BIG front cover shot from Empire magazine.

http://screenrant.com/captain-america-empire-cover-image-rob-99156/?_r=true

It's going to be interesting to watch how they transition Cap's 1940's outfit to what his modern look will be, come Avengers.

Originally posted by roughrider
BIG front cover shot from Empire magazine.

http://screenrant.com/captain-america-empire-cover-image-rob-99156/?_r=true

It's going to be interesting to watch how they transition Cap's 1940's outfit to what his modern look will be, come Avengers.

thats when Steve should get his iconic costume when he is found during the Avengers film

Bucky and Hydra

http://www.comicvine.com/news/bucky-and-hydra-from-captain-america-first-avenger/142782/

Hydra look like guys from the Hellboy movie.

First teaser trailer comes with the Super Bowl this weekend!