thoughts on sentry vs wwh

Originally posted by bbrem123
The Sentry's abilities derive from an experimental serum that creates a phase-shift in his molecules, causing each atom to step an instant ahead of the current time line. The serum induces a photosynthetic reaction, resulting in a hyper state of consciousness. Though most of his powers and their limits are still unknown, examples he has demonstrated so far are super-strength, super-speed, invulnerability, and flight.

The Sentry can also project energy fields, control light, and has vast psychic and mental forces mainly used for holding his physical powers together, though it is not yet known whether the Sentry can use them the way Professor X and other psychics use theirs; the only psychic abilities he had displayed so far is implanting his memories inside Paul Jenkins' mind and calming the fury of the Hulk.

It may be theorized that the Sentry also has the ability to produce hard-light constructs similar to those of Dazzler's when it was revealed that the Void is a just an expression of his repressed persona, and thus his creation. With the people dubbing The Sentry as the world's most powerful superhero, and with the serum causing a photosynthetic reaction to his body, completely altering his state of consciousness, it is nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless, and may even rival those of the Silver Surfer's and Phoenix's. In effect, the Sentry's powers are seemingly limitless.

if u read the end u will see

it says it in the last sentence...read it

if u cant see it ur lying

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its in the comic and was stated plain as day that Sentry used more power than he ever had previously. He lost control and the Hulk still took him down in a clam state. Proof is in the book while you really dont have any proof at all. You sent me a link saying his powers included super strength,etc.

first u say he uses all of his power now its just more then he ever had peviously?

make up ur mind man...ur just trying to cover up ur false statements

and he wasnt calm...just another one of ur false statements

Originally posted by bbrem123
it says it in the last sentence...read it

if u cant see it ur lying

Originally posted by bbrem123
first u say he uses all of his power now its just more then he ever had peviously?

make up ur mind man...ur just trying to cover up ur false statements

and he wasnt calm...just another one of ur false statements

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already said that. 🙂

Meaning since his anger isn't limitless, his strength isn't either. And where do you get this info about Hulk's strength increasing exponentially?

I know it increases with his anger but exponentially? How does that make sense with such an indistinct mechanism for unlocking his power like anger?

Originally posted by Allankles
Meaning since his anger isn't limitless, his strength isn't either. And where do you get this info about Hulk's strength increasing exponentially?

I know it increases with his anger but exponentially? How does that make sense with such an indistinct mechanism for unlocking his power like anger?

Seeing as there is currently no known limit to Hulk's rage levels....its as limitless as he needs it to be currently. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Seemingly isnt limitless its much different.

it describes how his powers work and say "nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless"

all ur argument r very weak

Originally posted by Allankles
Meaning since his anger isn't limitless, his strength isn't either. And where do you get this info about Hulk's strength increasing exponentially?

I know it increases with his anger but exponentially? How does that make sense with such an indistinct mechanism for unlocking his power like anger?

this is what they showed when Miek's comment's sent Banner off on a bout of rage, he was beginning to lose control of himself - gamma energies spewing out almost destroying the continental shelf - which is why he asked Stark to help stop him from going OTT.

Hulk can, and does, exhibit "infinite" strength, as proved on-panel by The Leader. I think there are other instances of characters scientifically "measuring" Hulk's strength and reaching the conclusion that it is +infinite+ (ie, beyond enumeration or comprehension).

furthermore, the "mechanism" for releasing some of that infinite power the Hulk possesses isn't actually "anger" but stress. this is the reason why, in a relatively calm state, Hulk can brace mountain ranges, hold together planets, smash apart asteroids twice the size of earth, punch through dimensions etc etc..

he only needs the anger, it seems, to help maintain his desire/will to keep pounding/holding/bracing ... the strength/power comes on-tap and it does indeed increase exponentially.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove he was calm.

i guess u mean prove he wasnt calm...he hasnt been calm since he landed on earth...i cant see how u can say he was calm, how can he be calm when came to earth to get his revenge??

Originally posted by bbrem123
it describes how his powers work and say "nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless"

all ur argument r very weak

Hulk's strength/power is infinite. Sentry's hadn't (prior to the fight with WWH) been truly tested.

strength and power r much different...hulk has the potential for unlimited strength but emotions can only take u so far, so he has his limits(which is still to be hit) ...sentry has unlimited power...with is caused by the phase-shift in his molecules making his power source unlimited

a feat of unlimited power is that he overloaded absorbing man...while absorbing man is able to absorb enough power to defeat the asgardian legions and eventually confronts odin himself...after absorb all of odins attacks and then the properties of Asgard itself he eventually losing to trickery

Originally posted by bbrem123
a feat of unlimited power is that he overloaded absorbing man...while absorbing man is able to absorb enough power to defeat the asgardian legions and eventually confronts odin himself...after absorb all of odins attacks and then the properties of Asgard itself he eventually losing to trickery

Absorbing man's been overloaded multiple times in the past. Overloading him is no above-top-tier feat.

Originally posted by Allankles
Meaning since his anger isn't limitless, his strength isn't either. And where do you get this info about Hulk's strength increasing exponentially?

I know it increases with his anger but exponentially? How does that make sense with such an indistinct mechanism for unlocking his power like anger?

Originally posted by bbrem123
it describes how his powers work and say "nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless"

all ur argument r very weak

Originally posted by bbrem123
i guess u mean prove he wasnt calm...he hasnt been calm since he landed on earth...i cant see how u can say he was calm, how can he be calm when came to earth to get his revenge??

Originally posted by Soljer
Absorbing man's been overloaded multiple times in the past. Overloading him is no above-top-tier feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have no basis whatsoever for your argument at all imo.

Your saying that the Sentry was calm and that was the reason he ran out of juice but there is simply no evidence to this effect. Agreed.

i was talking about the hulk not being calm during the fight

and yes i have evidence i have show u multiple times...u just make up point on y they r not accurate...even tho it is clearly stated

Originally posted by bbrem123
i was talking about the hulk not being calm during the fight

and yes i have evidence i have show u multiple times...u just make up point on y they r not accurate...even tho it is clearly stated

Originally posted by Soljer
Absorbing man's been overloaded multiple times in the past. Overloading him is no above-top-tier feat.

odin couldnt even overload him how is that not a top-tier feat??

who else over loaded him??

Originally posted by bbrem123
strength and power r much different...hulk has the potential for unlimited strength but emotions can only take u so far, so he has his limits(which is still to be hit) ...sentry has unlimited power...with is caused by the phase-shift in his molecules making his power source unlimited

Sentry might 'conceivably' have unlimited power, but that is actually proven to be false as he does go all-out, fully unleashing his power, against WWH and fails to even leave a lasting mark.

Hulk on the otherhand does possess infinite power/energies (and thus infinite strength as a manifestation of that extra-dimensional/universal power) and has demonstrated that. on-panel. without having to get angry - check out The Leader/Samson etc all testing and confirming Hulk's +infinite+ strength, ie strength/power beyond quantification.

you are attempting to posit a limit in the form of some specious hypothetical "limit" to how angry Banner/Hulk can get, but you refuse to acknowledge that he doesn't need to be/get angry to tap into that infinite power, that he only need be stressed for that strength to come to the fore - instantaneously.

basically, there's no limit to his strength, there's an infinity of power/energy backing it up, the only "limits" that exist are those that Banner consciously imposes. and even those are capable of being negated (stress situations, TP switching off Banner, anger boiling over into rage ...).

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk was the calm one between he and Sentry during their fight. Sentry went all out while WW Hulk wasnt as pissed and had already proven the points he came to earth to prove.

ur stating false statements if u say the hulk was calm during the fight