American Cars Are Shit!!!

Started by dadudemon5 pages
Originally posted by AngryManatee
I don't recall the any of the muscle cars of yore being able to do an 11.3 1/4 mile run out of the factory. But then again, the corvette has really been more of a sports car anywho.

It's true.

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml

Edit-It looks like there is more than just muscle cars listed there. Interesting read.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's true.

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml

Edit-It looks like there is more than just muscle cars listed there. Interesting read.

That first car in the import section sounds familiar 🙄

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why don't you tinker with them to prolong their life? Buying one every 3 years is a lot of money.

'cause I like driving new cars. I have a decent job........why purposely drive around in an out-of-date model if I don't have to.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
'cause I like driving new cars. I have a decent job........why purposely drive around in an out-of-date model if I don't have to.

It's part of what being American is, right? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Evil Dead
'cause I like driving new cars. I have a decent job........why purposely drive around in an out-of-date model if I don't have to.

As long as the new car's something cool, then I guess that logic makes sense sort of.

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seriously.......given the choice, I believe most if not all Americans would rather have a brand new car than an older car. If somebody was giving away free cars and asked you if you wanted an '09 or a '98 model of the very same car, I believe all would take the '09.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
seriously.......given the choice, I believe most if not all Americans would rather have a brand new car than an older car. If somebody was giving away free cars and asked you if you wanted an '09 or a '98 model of the very same car, I believe all would take the '09.

so you are saying that the only consideration in that scenario for you would be the age of the car?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
seriously.......given the choice, I believe most if not all Americans would rather have a brand new car than an older car. If somebody was giving away free cars and asked you if you wanted an '09 or a '98 model of the very same car, I believe all would take the '09.

Well, that depends on the car. I'd much rather have a nice vintage car.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well, that depends on the car. I'd much rather have a nice vintage car.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well, that depends on the car. I'd much rather have a nice vintage car.

👆

I like some of the newer cars, though.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I don't recall the any of the muscle cars of yore being able to do an 11.3 1/4 mile run out of the factory. But then again, the corvette has really been more of a sports car anywho.

The specs between sportscars and muscle cars aren't always well-defined. The one thing that they have in common is at least 8 bangers, and the engine is proportionately much more powerful than the vehicle's weight requires. "Muscle car" also refers to the style of an era of American cars; late 50's - mid 70's. Also, muscle cars usually carry the connotation of being affordable by the working man, where sportscars are driven by actors. Bottom line: the Stringray is closer to being a muscle car. It has a lot under the hood, but its not exactly a Murcielago.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The specs between sportscars and muscle cars aren't always well-defined. The one thing that they have in common is at least 8 bangers, and the engine is proportionately much more powerful than the vehicle's weight requires. "Muscle car" also refers to the style of an era of American cars; late 50's - mid 70's. Also, muscle cars usually carry the connotation of being affordable by the working man, where sportscars are driven by actors. Bottom line: the Stringray is closer to being a muscle car. It has a lot under the hood, but its not exactly a Murcielago.

Well it also depends on which model you chose. The ZL1 option for the Corvette back in 1969 would double the base model, coming out to about $9,400, which was pretty expensive back then, but definitely the best. Only the 427 S/C and C Cobras were faster stock.

The ZL1 doesn't resemble a true muscle car. Neither do today's Corvettes for that matter. They definately don't feel or sound like one.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The ZL1 doesn't resemble a true muscle car. Neither do today's Corvettes for that matter. They definately don't feel or sound like one.

An aluminum big block 427 rated at 430hp but actually producing 560hp sounds pretty muscly to me 🙄

Originally posted by AngryManatee
An aluminum big block 427 rated at 430hp but actually producing 560hp sounds pretty muscly to me 🙄

I've never heard it in person. I wouldn't know. 🙁

But pretty much at any time, Quiero is gonna be right when it comes to cars. He's got a massive amount of knowledge about them.

There are many factors that have to be taken into consideration, often a mechanic will be rather biased on these. For instance, the cost of repairs - say I own a Ford Focus and it breaks down, it's going to cost a lot less to repair than an old school muscle car. Then there's fuel economy, power would really mean f*ck all to me if I was paying through the roof for it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've never heard it in person. I wouldn't know. 🙁

But pretty much at any time, Quiero is gonna be right when it comes to cars. He's got a massive amount of knowledge about them.

As do I. The ZL1 was pretty much a beefier aluminum version of the L88 427. Pretty much a can-am engine put in a roadcar. It's still the most powerful naturally aspirated factory engine ever put in a corvette.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
As do I. The ZL1 was pretty much a beefier aluminum version of the L88 427. Pretty much a can-am engine put in a roadcar. It's still the most powerful naturally aspirated factory engine ever put in a corvette.

Corvettes from the factory don't have that "muscle car" sound, though. I think that's what Quiero was getting at.

No doubt that is packing a major load. ( 😖hifty: )

Where I work, there's just about every version of Corvette from the last ten years, parked on the lots. (There's a lot of bloated salaries, where I work...bunch of 50 somethings.)

I haven't heard or seen the ZL1 in the parking lots, but I'm sure someone will try to buy one.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Corvettes from the factory don't have that "muscle car" sound, though. I think that's what Quiero was getting at.

No doubt that is packing a major load. ( 😖hifty: )

Where I work, there's just about every version of Corvette from the last ten years, parked on the lots. (There's a lot of bloated salaries, where I work...bunch of 50 somethings.)

I haven't heard or seen the ZL1 in the parking lots, but I'm sure someone will try to buy one.

Highly doubt that, only two were ever made even though it was an option offered at all the dealers. Most usually went with the much cheaper L88 option.