Originally posted by Phantom ZoneIf you can't see the difference between arguing that popular opinion would determine the outcome of a debate, and popular opinion dictates what is popular... You really shouldn't be lectureing others on debate ettiquite.
LOL what the defintion of comic book knowledge is, is irrelevant. You have crticised people on this forum for saying that most people agree with me.
Originally posted by Creshosk
How? He has nothing the joker would want, remember? This is frank's town?What could Frank possibly get in his own city to lure Joker out.
Specifically for BATMAN to catch him... I can't believe you try to debate subjects you know nothing about.
Say hes the new batman. He can aslo ridcule him and say his jokes are not funny.
Originally posted by Creshoskwhat are you babbling about? 😕So the characters can be like you?
it just seems everyone is forgetting just HOW BIG Joker's ego can be, and which represents a HUGE opportunity for Frank to exploit. I do think Joker's a lot smarter than Frank, but Frank is kinda the perfect foil for the Joker.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes it is and I have read most of the comics ive mentioned. You have also not read some of the comics I have mentioned so thats not an excuse. Anything else?
oh my lord... i've read enough batman AND punisher to have a fair idea what both men are capable of, can you make the same claim? or maybe you have, but your obsession with bumping up the punisher to insane levels overrides that...
i'm sure you read plenty of green lantern comics before making your 'frank with x coloured ring vs' threads too...
Originally posted by Raoul
oh my lord... i've read enough batman AND punisher to have a fair idea what both men are capable of, can you make the same claim?
Well lets see... I have:
Batman knightfall
Batman knightsend.
Batman Cataclyism.
Batman No Mans Land volume 1
Various Batman issues related to Batman No Mans Land.
The Dark Knight returns.
DK2 Part 1 and Part 2
Various other Batman issues I cant be assed to mention...
Ive read:
The Killing Joke
The issues concerning Robins death (cant remember what issues)
For Punisher I have.
Punisher mini -series 1-5
Punisher volume 1 1-20
Punisher Summer Special 1-4
Punisher War Journal volume 1 1-3
Punisher War journal current volume 15 -17
Ive read:
Punisher War journal current volume 1-8
Originally posted by Raoul
or maybe you have, but your obsession with bumping up the punisher to insane levels overrides that...
In my opinion first you try to crticise me that I have not read enough of the issues concerned then if you cant get me there you try and tell me that I have not read it properly. damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Thats just your opinion and you are still arguing argumentam ad popularem, which does not neccesarily make you right. Its your right to do what you want but to continually disrespect me without providing any evidence is downright disrespectful in my opinion. I have gone the extra mile all you have done is tell me im wrong, not provide any evidence and insult me.
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm sure you read plenty of green lantern comics before making your 'frank with x coloured ring vs' threads too...
1. I mentioned I was ignorant of the subject.
2. Why are you derailing the thread, is that what were discusiing now?
Originally posted by Starscream M
What is?
Honestly, do you even take time to read the previous posts?
Do I have to specify each and every one of my replies?
It is general comic knowledge that Joker is a uber psychotic, demented SOB. Everybody knows that, though some deny. And it's not opinion, it's a fact.
Anyone with a brain cell can acknowledge this fact.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well lets see... I have:Batman knightfall
Batman knightsend.
Batman Cataclyism.
Batman No Mans Land volume 1
Various Batman issues related to Batman No Mans Land.
The Dark Knight returns.
DK2 Part 1 and Part 2
Various other Batman issues I cant be assed to mention...Ive read:
The Killing Joke
The issues concerning Robins death (cant remember what issues)
what about regulars, detective comics, batman etc... i know some of those arcs cross over, but i mean in general...
and if all you've read is killing joke and the robin's death issues then you seriously need to read some more before considering arguing anything as regards the joker. everyone on this board is the same, we don't try to debate characters we aren't well versed in.
In my opinion first you try to crticise me that I have not read enough of the issues concerned then if you cant get me there you try and tell me that I have not read it properly. damned if you do, damned if you don't.
no, it isn't. you just have a reputation on this forum for not reading some of the characters you debate, hence the green lantern comment.
Thats just your opinion and you are still arguing argumentam ad popularem, which does not neccesarily make you right. Its your right to do what you want but to continually disrespect me without providing any evidence is downright disrespectful in my opinion. I have gone the extra mile all you have done is tell me im wrong, not provide any evidence and insult me.
that's your opinion, and you're welcome to it. you say you provide evidence, but saying something like 'punisher beat dd, now prove batman is above dd' is not evidence nor is it in any sense a decent argument, especially if you'd read much batman...
1. I mentioned I was ignorant of the subject.
2. Why are you derailing the thread, is that what were discusiing now?
see above.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
But IT IS a general comic knowledge.
i know...
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
OMG 😆 😂
How the hell does he do that in a city with a pop. of 8+ million?
he doesn't.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerummm....do you read previous posts?
It is general comic knowledge that Joker is a uber psychotic, demented SOB. Everybody knows that, though some deny. And it's not opinion, it's a fact.
Anyone with a brain cell can acknowledge this fact.
where in hell did phantomzone disagree that Joker is an uber psychotic, demented SOB?
This is closed for a while. The thread has been a problem and if it keeps up warnings and temp bans will be handed out for a number of reasons.
There were no stipulations except for location and prep. The Vs forum default rules call for only general knowledge which is something an everyday person would know. Prep would make use of that general knowledge. I've seen a lot of grandiose claims, extraordinary assumptions and gross misrepresentations of characters. I've spoken to some of you and warned others for this previously.
Okay everybody. Let's try to maintain some calm and not resort to anything I'll need to sort through in the reports. In my opinion, Franks gets a slight majority here. Joker is brilliantly warped. That's his greatest strength and weakness. I give Frank a slight majority because of the "good guy" factor, plus he's not too shabby in the brains, prep and resources department. Just my opinion even though I have a Joker avi and sig. I'm not mad at anyone who disagrees with me. So don't make me come back in here and open a can of dur on you all.
Originally posted by Badabing
Okay everybody. Let's try to maintain some calm and not resort to anything I'll need to sort through in the reports. In my opinion, Franks gets a slight majority here. Joker is brilliantly warped. That's his greatest strength and weakness. I give Frank a slight majority because of the "good guy" factor, plus he's not too shabby in the brains, prep and resources department. Just my opinion even though I have a Joker avi and sig. I'm not mad at anyone who disagrees with me. So don't make me come back in here and open a can of dur on you all.
Originally posted by Badabing
Okay everybody. Let's try to maintain some calm and not resort to anything I'll need to sort through in the reports. In my opinion, Franks gets a slight majority here. Joker is brilliantly warped. That's his greatest strength and weakness. I give Frank a slight majority because of the "good guy" factor, plus he's not too shabby in the brains, prep and resources department. Just my opinion even though I have a Joker avi and sig. I'm not mad at anyone who disagrees with me. So don't make me come back in here and open a can of dur on you all.
What a fanboy!
dur
Originally posted by occultdestroyerNot really. There's no statue of Liberty in Gotham. And in the crossover, Pun traveled to Gotham from NY IIRC. GCPD & NYPD ain't the same either
Gotham = NYC
Both are playing on the same turf. Punisher doesn't have the advantage of location
So the location has no relevance whatsoever in this scenario
FAIL.