Originally posted by DigiMark007Meh.
And therefore it shouldn't happen. My plan is still legal until ruled otherwise. And it would be a supremely d*ck move to change the ruling now, since nothing was hidden from him. It was ruled ok, and is therefore ok until ruled otherwise. I realize you don't like it, but you don't have to.
To be honest, if it was ruled in my favor, I'd feel worse for your previous opponents than I would for you, seeing as you'd simply be required to come up with a new plan, but they've been beaten by a process that is looking to be very much illegal.
IMO, it's much more believable to retain a mind than it is a soul (though, again, the definitions of each word are not concrete), and seeing as you use those words interchangeably in your PM to Delph, it could be that Delph believed it to be defendable under the "info retention" rule... but the scans that you've provided have made more clear what was before slightly ambiguous in your PM to Delph.
Regardless, it's up to you to back up your own plan- Delph's ruling shouldn't be the backbone of your argument. Reading your PMs, I could clearly see the argument that what you're doing is just an extension of memories and experience, but that line of argument wouldn't include the Marvel Family's powers (hence the caveat). Instead, you deviated from any of that by stating that it's clearly not memories and experience, and the official combat rule:
Originally posted by illadelph12
8. Experience is the only thing that carries over from battle to battle. You can not bring any implement that you acquired during prep or during the battle to the subsequent rounds. All you'll have is your memories/experiences from the previous battle. No exceptions. No loopholes.
pretty much shuts you down based on your admission that it's not at all experience or memories.
Maybe Delph screwed up, maybe he didn't, but Combat Rule number 8 applies to all of us, and I wouldn't expect to start being able to bring powers or equipment from battle to battle, nor would I think I could bring extra actual people- which is what you're doing.
The fact is, when you look at the rules that have governed the tourney from the beginning, its illegal.
Frankly, the "dick move" comment would apply equally as well to a ruling that allowed this, because had I known that Delph was going to contradict rule #8 later on in the tourney, I'd be bringing extra powers along just like you are now.
I don't like seeing Digi get an extra edge that the rest of us don't have access to.
Originally posted by leonidas
the miracle machine was never 'claimed', never anyone one person's POSSESSION. how can a crown NOT belong to a king? even id himself said--repeatedly--the crown was his.
for a battle that I had originally thought would be a complete walkover (given the circumstances of Smurph and Blair), this new point brought up by Smurph is a HUGE game changer for the rest of the tourney perhaps...kudos to Smurph for making a clutchtime play rather than just giving this match away as I originally thought you intended to do
smurph...did you have this point of contention planned all along or did you happen upon it at last notice?
Originally posted by Starscream MA little of option A, a little of option B...
for a battle that I had originally thought would be a complete walkover (given the circumstances of Smurph and Blair), this new point brought up by Smurph is a HUGE game changer for the rest of the tourney perhaps...kudos to Smurph for making a clutchtime play rather than just giving this match away as I originally thought you intended to dosmurph...did you have this point of contention planned all along or did you happen upon it at last notice?
And thanks, I guess. After the off hand insinuations that my team was lazy and not giving Digi a fight, I wanted to mix things up a little bit.
Originally posted by leonidas
the differnce kk is that cog is KING. as king, the throne and crown are both his--they BELONG to him, he claimed them.
Originally posted by leonidas
the miracle machine was never 'claimed', never anyone one person's POSSESSION. how can a crown NOT belong to a king? even id himself said--repeatedly--the crown was his.
Is it a standard item? ( A piece of equipment, that is worn & used on a day to day biases.)
Or a base item? (an item, that is mostly kept and secured in its base).
Originally posted by Cavalier
After the off hand insinuations that my team was lazy and not giving Digi a fight, I wanted to mix things up a little bit.
I thought it was going to be a onesided battle not because anyone was lazy, but because your team has no prep, which is a crucial part of any battle.
Originally posted by Cavalier
I'm actually gonna say no to any extension on the match. I had to move stuff to make time for this match as it is, and Digi's amalgam has already given me a headache.
Just my 5 cents, Smurph.
The Id\Kandy vs Leo\Scoobs match has already went on and on waay beyond both time and post limits.
Whether your match lasted only 1,5 days. Id\Kandy vs Leo\Scoobs is still open, yours is closed.
Either close both or give the 2,5 extension days so that the match would have standart length.
The match was marked as Wednesday till Sunday, but in reality started on Friday, so it should be Friday till Tuesday to have standart length, yes?
Smurph, you've known about the ruling since it was made over a month ago in my match with Scoob and leo. Souls were approved as part of information retention. And though it's not entirely clear in the rules, that was why I asked delph. I said, "Hey, would souls fall under the info retention rule?" and his reply was "Yes." I then posted that ruling more times than I care to remember so that everyone would know. I can't affect the rulings he makes, nor did I try to affect it with any sort of bias claims.
So for you to bring this up now, instead of when it should have been dealt with (back when I originally dealt with it, in a timely manner) is just an attempt to get the rules changed to cripple me for the playoffs.
Also saying you didn't have access to the same benefits is crap. You've had over a month with this ruling in place. You've had every opportunity that everyone else has had. If you didn't adjust accordingly, it's your own fault.
At this point, it remains legal and no change has been made. Delph's fully aware of the situation. For it to change now would just be him changing his mind because you don't like it.
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As for the Cog ruling, it's not like this at all because delph didn't originally understand all the aspects involved, which leo helped bring to light. He understood everything about my ruling from the very start, which would make it not a revision based on new information but a straight-up rule change based on nothing more than a couple complaints.
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And I love that we've instituted the flexible ending deadline for the playoffs, so last-minute post-blitzes like our match will no longer happen and we'll all have time for our posts...because matches should be won on the strength of the debating, not who gets the last word in a massive post-blitz. So congrats on the top seed, though we really didn't need the "headache" excuse for denying an extension. If you didn't want to debate more, just say so.
Originally posted by illadelph12
FYI, my Dad was placed in ICU last night due to respiratory failure, so my availability may be intermittent at best if things get worse.
Condolences and best wishes. Take all the time you need.
Actually, they did. This isn't the first time I've had this conversation...it's just the longest and most public.
So yeah, it's the participants' job to question rulings if see a problem. But I'm telling you, as I've told Smurph, that's it's already be approved more than once. There's nothing left to discuss. If you get the ruling overturned, which isn't likely, then come see me. Until then, idle complaining is just annoying, not productive to anyone.