Sentry vs Silver Sufer

Started by ultimatethor15 pages

Originally posted by janus77
Sentry has to prove that he is not susceptible to power drainage, seeing as even Galactus is. seems to be a fundamental given in Marvel, that energy of all types (including magic) can be drained/absorbed, provided the one doing so is more powerful than the one getting drained (or has better control over the energy).

Surfer has drained loads of characters, Hulk's powers are beyond Sentry's yet he's susceptible to Surfer draining him.

Absorbing man failed to drain Hulk, no?

Sentry v Terrax is not anything like an indicator of Sentry v Surfer.
what Power Cosmic attacks did Sentry face?
what energy manipulation did Terrax do?
what matter manipulation did Terrax do?

Terrax is far weaker than Surfer, it would be like using Warpath as an analogue of Hulk.

Surfer has absorbed souls, he has defeated characters on the astral plane... Sentry is just a sitting duck for him.

Exactly. The onus is on the sentry supporters to prove that sentry is immune to enrgy drainage considering that it works on most enrgy based characters in Marvel. It is up to the sentry to prove to us that he is different.

Sentry isn't immune to energy drainage. He loses his power in the Negative Zone.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's been said that Sentry is the most powerful blah blah. Statements mean lil in the context of a hyperboled, wankfest, PIS story that was WWH.

Its no convincing you. I simply gave you scans of beings saying this and you throw it out the window. I didnt just give you one instant, I gave you three and then I showed you a scan proving that he was holding back. Answer this, is superman more powerful then he was during his 1st fight with doomsday, before his death?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Sentry isn't immune to energy drainage. He loses his power in the Negative Zone.

I dont think absorbing sentry's power would be a good idea.

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Originally posted by carver9
I dont think absorbing sentry's power would be a good idea.

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You do realize that there's a significant difference between absorbing someones energy and duplicating their powers don't you?

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think absorbing sentry's power would be a good idea.

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Wasnt that more of a mind raping than energy absorbtion? Also, Sentry wasnt the cause for her exploding.

Maybe I percieved it wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think absorbing sentry's power would be a good idea.

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Draining ones power is different than absorbing it. In the Negative Zone Sentry's power slowly drains away until he becomes useless. Thanks to that Void was able to pwn the Hulk.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You do realize that there's a significant difference between absorbing someones energy and duplicating their powers don't you?

I know its a difference but I somehow believe that surfer might absorb some of the void during the process. It seem like sentry has complete control over his power from looking at this scan and looking at the absorbing man scan.

Originally posted by tkitna
Wasnt that more of a mind raping than energy absorbtion? Also, Sentry wasnt the cause for her exploding.

Maybe I percieved it wrong.

I know that he wasnt the cause of her exploding, when I post things I usually post the entire thing so that noone would ask me what happened after that.

Originally posted by tkitna
Wasnt that more of a mind raping than energy absorbtion? Also, Sentry wasnt the cause for her exploding.

Maybe I percieved it wrong.

That had nothing to do with mind raping, he even say that she took some of the void during the process. Sentry dont even know how to use his tp to that extent yet.

Originally posted by carver9
I know its a difference but I somehow believe that surfer might absorb some of the void during the process. It seem like sentry has complete control over his power from looking at this scan and looking at the absorbing man scan.

We've never actually seen that though and there's no logical reason that Surfer would absorb the Void along with Sentry's energy reserves. Even if he DID absorb the Void for some reason, Surfer's a lot more mentally stable than Bob and has already been through the trial of coming to grips with his inner demons so I doubt the Void would do much to his mind anyway.

Lets not forget the recent power up.

Originally posted by darthgoober
We've never actually seen that though, and there's no logical reason that Surfer would absorb the Void along with Sentry's energy reserves. Even if he DID absorb the void for some reason, Surfer's a lot more mentally stable than Bob and has already been through the trial of coming to grips with his inner demons so I doubt the Void would do much to his mind anyway.

If that was to happen surfer would have to maintain control of the void while also fighting sentry at the same time. By the way, sentry isnt superman, sentry dont gather his energy from the sun, he gather his power from everywhere and anything. Surfer has a lot of energy to drain because while trying to drain sentry would still be absorbing.
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So the little energy that surfer did drain, while surfer is trying to focus on the void he would be getting a pounding from sentry and I cant see that happening.

Surfer can absorb untold numbers of Blackbodies (souls), Void won't be that much of a challenge.

Surfer could manipulate Sentry on the cellular level, removing or altering the effects of the serum.

Surfer could drain, alter and redirect the power Sentry throws at him. Surfer could keep that up for all eternity, as he wouldn't be using any of his own energies.

Surfer could destroy Sentry's mind - completely eliminate it - via an attack across the Astral plane.

Surfer could phase into synch with Sentry's molecules and then mess Sentry up with that.

Surfer could create negative zone energies to weaken Sentry.

Surfer could hit Sentry with planet destroying force (Sentry wouldn't be able to survive that without losing consciousness at the very least).

Originally posted by carver9
That had nothing to do with mind raping, he even say that she took some of the void during the process. Sentry dont even know how to use his tp to that extent yet.

Eh, your right. I read it a hundred times before, but didnt read it tonight. My bad. I'm on your side anyways.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer can absorb untold numbers of Blackbodies (souls), Void won't be that much of a challenge.

Not so sure about that.

Surfer took enough of the blackbodies into himself to then defeat UniLord - who was god in his own dimension - surely Void is nowhere near that level?

Surfer has even absorbed a portion of DeathUrge without any effect, why not the Void?

what if Surfer decided to create a blackhole in the battlefield?

if the Void can't even escape from the Sun what's he gonna do when he's being ripped apart in every direction by the infinite forces of a blackhole?

hell that might actually kill Sentry and Void in one.

Didnt the Sentry just find the Void on Saturn?

haven't kept up with Sentry but last I remember, the Void was still in the Sun.

anyway... blackhole >> King Hulk punches >>> Sentry (I'm only putting it across this way 'cos I'm tired, not being rude or obnoxious (not intentionally)).