Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He would know Swagger is a trained sniper, but he wouldnt know what Swagger is going to do, nor would Swagger know what 47 is going to do.47 would put two and two together and realize that Swagger is going to make a stand in the woods and be forced into a situation where he no longer holds the upper hand.
Swagger hide in the woods in Philly? That can happen?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Like I said, different prey. Smarter and more calculating, yes, but nonetheless in the woods, 47 would be the prey.You brought up the park scenario, Swagger can live off of military rations for days on end, you know.
Dude, you clearly haven't seen Shooter, or you did see it and are ignoring that Swagger can kill just as easily AND just as well as 47. It's right there in the movie, scene after scene, Swagger kills as easy as breathing. In a wooded environment 47 would have his ass handed to him by Swagger. Swagger is a sniper, he waits, he has patience out the yazoo. Sooner or later 47 would be forced to make a move, and then he is done.
No, and no. Swagger took out TWO choppers, was 47 shown doing this?
And please stop with the silly boy comments, it makes you look quite petty.
I think you've never been in a city park, there aren't that many trees, there are people and dogs all around, your scenario of Swagger hiding out in a park for days on end hoping 47 comes into view is factually asinine. The fight takes place in Philly, Philly is known as an "urban environment".
I've seen shooter and I've seen Hitman. You said Swagger is on par with 47. I gave two examples that show 47's far superior skill. You simply avoid this.
Okay, you got me there. If it was a contest in taking out choppers, Swagger wins that.
Your out of place scenarios and clear bias is childish.
Originally posted by RobtardHouston is also known as an urban area, yes? As is Dallas? And Boston? And LA?
I think you've never been in a city park, there aren't that many trees, there are people and dogs all around, your scenario of Swagger hiding out in a park is asinine. The fight takes place in Philly, Philly is known as an "urban environment".I've seen shooter and I've seen Hitman. You said Swagger is on par with 47. I gave two examples that show 47's far superior skill. You simply avoid this.
Okay, you got me there. If it was a contest in taking out choppers, Swagger wins that.
Your out of place scenarios and clear bias is childish.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Houston is also known as an urban area, yes? As is Dallas? And Boston? And LA?
Let me guess, you're going to find some park that has more trees than usual and say "Swagger hides there in full camo with enough rations to last him indefinitely and waits until 47 will walk into view for a head-shot, because that is what 47 would certainly do", yes?
Since 47 is the far superior sniper (gets head-shots that are over 4 km), why doesn't he just position himself in a very tall building overlooking the park and just snipe Swagger as he's carry all his gear into position? No?
It's in Philly though, urban area with a city park where some crazy(Swagger) has set up shop for two days waiting for 47 to walk across his crosshairs. That sounds alittle off. For all you know, nothing would happen ever. He's gonna start drawing attention, and 47 will know what's going on when all of Philly hears of a madman hiding in the city park with guns.
Originally posted by RobtardSomething like that. It's something he would very likely do, and you dont like it, so boohoo.
Let me guess, you're going to find some park that has more trees than usual and say "Swagger hides there in full camo with enough rations to last him indefinitely and wait until 47 will walk into view for a head-shot", yes?
Originally posted by ScytheCould very well be in a wooded area that ISN'T a park, you know.
It's in Philly though, urban area with a city park where some crazy(Swagger) has set up shop for two days waiting for 47 to walk across his crosshairs. That sounds alittle off. For all you know, nothing would happen ever. He's gonna start drawing attention, and 47 will know what's going on when all of Philly hears of a madman hiding in the city park with guns.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Something like that. It's something he would very likely do, and you dont like it, so boohoo.
Edit: The scenario is retarded to the very core, Swagger would be at the mercy of 47 coming into view, if 47 came from the rear (or either side), he'd be dead. Swagger, an expert sniper/soldier would not likely be that stupid, as he's aware of 47's assassin skills.
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Originally posted by Robtard
Since 47 is the far superior sniper (gets head-shots that are over 4 km), why doesn't he just position himself in a very tall building overlooking the park and just snipe Swagger as he's carry all his gear into position? No?
In the movie, it's shown that 47 can easily out sniper Swagger. So why are you being biased and not factoring in that 47 could snipe Swagger from over 2 miles away?
Originally posted by RobtardBecause Swagger is gonna set up in a place that favors him, one way in and one way out. He is gonna know better than to muck around and give 47 even the slightest chance if they fight in the woods. Would YOU give 47 the slightest chance?
In the movie, it's shown that 47 can easily out sniper Swagger. So why are you being biased and not factoring in that 47 could snipe Swagger from over 2 miles away?
You dug 47's grave by bringing up city parks, you know.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because Swagger is gonna set up in a place that favors him, one way in and one way out. He is gonna know better than to muck around and give 47 even the slightest chance if they fight in the woods. Would YOU give 47 the slightest chance?You dug 47's grave by bringing up city parks, you know.
And 47 (the moronic novice that he is) wouldn't know this and position himself in a place that favors him? Like over two miles away overlooking the park, where he can easily get a kill, but Swagger with his inferior sniping skills can't? Your bias has reached critical mass.
No, a city park would be Swagger's doom, as he's outclassed. It's not that he's weak, it's just that he's facing the very best killer.
Edit: Your argument of Swagger winning by sniper shot is easily put-down, since 47 can use a sniper and use it at far longer range. It's rather simple.
Originally posted by RobtardLong shots aren't going to come into play when there is cover to be had. You assume Swagger is going to place himself somewhere where he is vulnerable. The guy went to several cities in Shooter and saw every angle, every possible scenario for an assassination. This is what he does, he plans out and executes sniper shots. This is his area of expertise.
And 47 (the moronic novice that he is) wouldn't know this and position himself in a place that favors him? Like over two miles away overlooking the park, where he can easily get a kill, but Swagger with his inferior sniping skills can't? Your bias has reached critical mass.No, a city park would be Swagger's doom, as he's outclassed. It's not that he's weak, it's just that he's facing the very best killer.
Edit: Your argument of Swagger winning by sniper shot is easily put-down, since 47 can use a sniper and use it at far longer range. It's rather simple.
Since 47 is enlisted to kill Swagger, he is going to have to come after Swagger, whereever Swagger may be.
In the city, sniping against one another, sure, 47 would probably get him. Too bad we weren't shown 47 sniping in a wooded environment, or using ghille suits and shit.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So in the whole state of Pennsylvania, there aren't any wooded areas where Swagger could employ his training at not being seen? Guess you have never been to Philly.
I've been to Philly, and it's not the size of the entire state of Pennsylvania, there are plenty of trees, but it's no jungle that'll make 47 crap his pants.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Long shots aren't going to come into play when there is cover to be had. You assume Swagger is going to place himself somewhere where he is vulnerable. The guy went to several cities in Shooter and saw every angle, every possible scenario for an assassination. This is what he does, he plans out and executes sniper shots. This is his area of expertise.Since 47 is enlisted to kill Swagger, he is going to have to come after Swagger, whereever Swagger may be.
In the city, sniping against one another, sure, 47 would probably get him. Too bad we weren't shown 47 sniping in a wooded environment, or using ghille suits and shit.
It's clearly shown in the movie that 47 is far superior at being a sniper, period. Funny how shooting a helicopter from close range counts for Swagger being such a bad-ass, yet 47 getting a head-shot from 4 km doesn't. More bais as expected.
Funny how you assume 47 doesn't plan ahead for his prey, like he's just some hired gangbanger that does wild-spray drive bys.
Probably get him? He's the superior sniper. He'd get him.
"47 never shot in a wooded area, so he can't shoot in a wooded area". LoL, that.
The sad thing, you actually think your arguments are logical and objective.