Codename 47 vs Bob Lee Swagger

Started by Rogue Jedi30 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
In a previous Vs. thread, you said you made a living thinking outside the box.

Then why would you assume they'd fight in a non-urban area when the fight is in th 5th largest U.S. city? Granted, they could fight in a park or something, but that's a silly assumption.

Part of my job involves that. I have to think on my feet all the time and be creative in my problem resolutions.

Maybe, and if they do, advantage Swagger.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
My dear lord......look three posts up, please.

Okay, good. Then it's safe to say 47 takes this one, good to hear.

Originally posted by Scythe
Okay, good. Then it's safe to say 47 takes this one, good to hear.
In a city environment, yes. but Robtard just brought a new element into the mix. Check it out.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Part of my job involves that. I have to think on my feet all the time and be creative in my problem resolutions.

Maybe, and if they do, advantage Swagger.

So you see Swagger painting his face in camo and humping around camo-gear on the off chance they face off in a Philly park? Hahahahahahahahahaaa, funny.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you see Swagger painting his face in camo and humping around camo-gear on the off chance they face off in a Philly park? Hahahahahahahahahaaa, funny.
Umm.....Bob Lee doesnt use camo clothing, if you notice in Shooter, outside the opening scenes, his clothes are usually quite bland, and he still manages to stay hidden in several scenes. And a stick of camo paint fits easily into a pocket.

Around around we go, do you really think some face paint is going to stump the top assassin?

This also assumes that once they meet in this park, 47 will stand idly by while Swagger puts on his makeup and goes off to hide in a bush.

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Ya, real bland. Last time I checked, bright orange was good cover for hiding in a park setting. Wonder why they issue this color to convicts?

Originally posted by Robtard
Around around we go, do you really think some face paint is going to stump the top assassin?

This also assumes that once they meet in this park, 47 will stand idly by while Swagger puts on his makeup and goes off to hide in a bush.

There are endless circumstances that can lead to the park fight.

If they have three days to prepare, Swagger could very well set up shop in the park, have a cache of weapons at the ready, and be in full camo with numerous hides at his disposal.

dude, thats prison grab, try again.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There are endless circumstances that can lead to the park fight.

If they have three days to prepare, Swagger could very well set up shop in the park, have a cache of weapons at the ready, and be in full camo with numerous hides at his disposal.

dude, thats prison grab, try again.

Yes there are, but Swagger merely painting his face isn't going to do shit, granted he'd have the time to do so once they met.

The thread starter said it's a hunt, meaning they're both actively searching for each other. Not Swagger sets up shop and waits for 47 to come into killing range.

Dude, "it's in the movie".

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes there are, but Swagger merely painting his face isn't going to do shit, granted he'd have the time to do so once they met.

The thread starter said it's a hunt, meaning they're both actively searching for each other. Not Swagger sets up shop and waits for 47 to come into killing range.

Dude, "it's in the movie".

Sometimes a hunter waits for his prey to come to him, this is why they make deer blinds and deer stands.

If Bob Lee is in full camo, ghille suit and all, and 47 boldly strolls into the woods looking for him, yes, he is a goner. Swagger will know his best chance stands in his element, and he will likely wait 47 out in the woods.

Swagger would know what 47 is capable of, and, despite public opinion here, Swagger is far more than a redneck with a rifle. He is just as efficient a killer as 47 is, whether you want to admit it or not.

Agent 47 isn't a deer, he's the top assassin.

That assumes that 47 is a moron and doesn't know anything of Swagger and will just enter the woods. Hard to imagine the top assassin falling for this, in fact, it defies logic.

No, Swagger is an expert sniper/soldier. Agent 47 is an assassin trained from birth to be the very best and coincidentally is the best at what he does. See the difference?

Edit: You're also being clearly biased again and gimping the guy you want to see lose. Why would just Swagger know what his opponent is capable of?

Originally posted by Robtard
Agent 47 isn't a deer, he's the top assassin.

That assumes that 47 is a moron and doesn't know anything of Swagger and will just enter the woods. Hard to imagine the top assassin falling for this, in fact, it defies logic.

No, Swagger is an expert sniper/soldier. Agent 47 is an assassin trained from birth to be the very best and coincidentally is the best at what he does. See the difference?

Hunting is Hunting, it's only a difference in prey we are talking about here.

If 47 is left with no choice, if he knows Swagger will wait him out, he will have to do something, man. And yes, Swagger WILL outwait him.

So he is trained from birth, big deal, that means he is like a robot, that he is probably as close as one can be to having no conscience. Swagger has been shown killing with a sniper rifle, an assault rifle, a pistol, a knife, a garrote, his bare hands, pipe bombs, with a frigging .22......And he did so just as well as 47 does.

Yea, the deer being a non-reasoning animal, Agent 47 being a calculating assassin.

LoL, you're bias is appalling now. Really, now, why will he have to do something like enter into a known kill zone? Why not wait until Swagger runs out of food? Anyhow, the fight is in Philly, meaning it's urban as Philly is an urban city.

Wrong, in the movie he has a conscience, if you watched it, you would know. Being trained from birth to kill implies that killing is what he excels at, it's also stated he's the best at it. You're clearly wrong and acting like a silly boy now.

A) Agent 47 sniped someone from over four kilometers, did Swagger do this?

B) 47 killed 4 other highly trained assassin's with short-swords, did Swagger do this?

Agent 47 would utterly dominate.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yea, the deer being a non-reasoning animal, Agent 47 being a calculating assassin.

LoL, you're bias is appalling now. Really, now, why will he have to do something like enter into a known kill zone? Why not wait until Swagger runs out of food? Anyhow, the fight is in Philly, meaning it's urban as Philly is an urban city.

Wrong, in the movie he has a conscience, if you watched it, you would know. Being trained from birth to kill implies that killing is what he excels at, it's also stated he's the best at it. You're clerly wrong and acting like a silly boy now.

A) Agent 47 sniped someone from over four meters, did Swagger do this?

B) 47 killed 4 other highly trained assassin's with short-swords, did Swagger do this?

Like I said, different prey. Smarter and more calculating, yes, but nonetheless in the woods, 47 would be the prey.

You brought up the park scenario, Swagger can live off of military rations for days on end, you know.

Dude, you clearly haven't seen Shooter, or you did see it and are ignoring that Swagger can kill just as easily AND just as well as 47. It's right there in the movie, scene after scene, Swagger kills as easy as breathing. In a wooded environment 47 would have his ass handed to him by Swagger. Swagger is a sniper, he waits, he has patience out the yazoo. Sooner or later 47 would be forced to make a move, and then he is done.

No, and no. Swagger took out TWO choppers, was 47 shown doing this?

And please stop with the silly boy comments, it makes you look quite petty.

I highly doubt a park is gonna save Swagger from getting killed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
dude, thats prison grab, try again.

Ahahaha, prison grab, that made me chuckle. Sounds painful.

Originally posted by Scythe
I highly doubt a park is gonna save Swagger from getting killed.

Ahahaha, prison grab, that made me chuckle. Sounds painful.

Being in a wooded environmet, in his element, would greatly escalate his chances, surely you must see this.

Prison GARB, oops.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Being in a wooded environmet, in his element, would greatly escalate his chances, surely you must see this.

Prison GARB, oops.

Who's to say 47 can't snipe him?

Choppers are quite a lot easier to see than a hitman trained in stealth killing.

Originally posted by Scythe
Who's to say 47 can't snipe him?
No one. But you gotta see your target before you hit it. Swagger, with his skills of concealment, is far more likely to see 47 before 47 sees him.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Choppers are quite a lot easier to see than a hitman trained in stealth killing.
Agreed. Swagger is actually trained in stealth too, and is just as efficient a killer as 47 is. Anyone who has seen both movies can see this.

On a side note, Swagger took both choppers head on, while 47 ran like a ***** when confronted with one.