Codename 47 vs Bob Lee Swagger

A person is not a chopper so it's irrelevant.

It's sorta relevant, it shows Bob Lee's tenacity.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No one. But you gotta see your target before you hit it. Swagger, with his skills of concealment, is far more likely to see 47 before 47 sees him.

At any given point, Swagger would have to expose any bit of him, to aim the rifle. 47 has dealt with stuff like that, he'd snipe him first.

RJ, you need to stop posting in these threads with a notion already in your head that whatever the case, your favourite is definitely going to win. In my mind it's baiting, definitely, obviously it's not in Impediment's, I'm not sure why.

A thread with Bob Lee Swagger in it that sparked nothing but arguments, which you clearly delighted in slowed to a stop, so you started baiting in another thread with Bob Lee Swagger in with the clear intention to re kindle such arguments. You can shout and rave all you want about how this is not you're doing, but that's certainly how it appears.

Originally posted by Scythe
At any given point, Swagger would have to expose any bit of him, to aim the rifle. 47 has dealt with stuff like that, he'd snipe him first.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
RJ, you need to stop making these threads with a notion already in your head that whatever the case, your favourite is definitely going to win. In my mind it's baiting, definitely, obviously it's not in Impediment's, I'm not sure why.

A thread with Bob Lee Swagger in it that sparked nothing but arguments, which you clearly delighted in slowed to a stop, so you started another thread with Bob Lee Swagger in with the clear intention to re kindle such arguments. You can shout and rave all you want about how this is not you're doing, but that's certainly how it appears.

This is the part where you blush 😉

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That works both ways, you know.

Yeah, alot of the points pointed out in this thread could work best ways, but again with the hiding in a concealed spot to snipe. I doubt Swagger has a one track mind where everything's snipe, snipe, snipe, snipe. I'm sure they'd even have a gunfight, and 47 would win. Swagger is toast in all of this. I'm applying the benefit of the doubt and no matter what, I can't see Swagger winning this.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I didnt start this thread haermm

This is the part where you blush 😉

So you didn't. Okay then, that part can be easily changed. You need to stop using such ludicrous lines of logic and debate to bait people into an argument concerning an obvious favourite of yours.

Originally posted by Scythe
Yeah, alot of the points pointed out in this thread could work best ways, but again with the hiding in a concealed spot to snipe. I doubt Swagger has a one track mind where everything's snipe, snipe, snipe, snipe. I'm sure they'd even have a gunfight, and 47 would win. Swagger is toast in all of this. I'm applying the benefit of the doubt and no matter what, I can't see Swagger winning this.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
So you didn't. Okay then, that part can be easily changed. You need to stop using such ludicrous lines of logic and debate to bait people into an argument concerning an obvious favourite of yours.

First you stick your foot in your mouth, then you accuse me of baiting. 🙄 I am literally laughing my ass off right now. Literally.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Swagger knows his best chances are to snipe 47, so why wouldnt he use that line of attack first?

They have three days to prepare, you mean to tell me Swagger, by the fourth day is gonna set up shop at the local park and just lay there in wait?

Aww, but you see RJ, sometimes it's hard not to get irritated by you and grow hostile.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
First you stick your foot in your mouth, then you accuse me of baiting.

You could've just said this, and left it at that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
🙄 I am literally laughing my ass off right now. Literally.

But you make things worse at times by adding stuff like this to your posts...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And as for this, the whole scene where he asks if the SUV has the big engine, getting them to raise the hood, then taking a pic of the plates, that IS counter intel.

He was trying to make them believe he was interested in the engine, when all he wanted was the plates.

They saw through it because they are also trained in counter intel, and they know that he is trained in counter intel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterintelligence

Counterintelligence (CI) refers to efforts made by intelligence organizations to prevent hostile or enemy intelligence organizations from successfully gathering and collecting intelligence against them. Many governments organize counterintelligence agencies separate and distinct from their intelligence collection services for specialized purposes.

Any questions?

Nope. You just confirmed your intelligence level is very low. You still clearly don't know what constitutes counter-intel even after reading the wiki. Shame.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am pitting one combatant's strength against another's, thats all I am doing. You can read all you want into it, but I am entitled to my opinion and that's that.

First you stick your foot in your mouth, then you accuse me of baiting. 🙄 I am literally laughing my ass off right now. Literally.

The trouble is, that no matter who the other combatant is, Swagger will win, unless of course they have something to do with Star Wars. This is blatantly obvious to practically everyone, you just like to play the ''everyone's against me'' card, to get out of it - this happens in practically every debate you're in, not just in this forum but every other one too. You bait and you do it constantly, you don't debate, but purposely try and start arguments so you can get other, more intelligent, more logical posters in trouble for having a go at you.

I'm glad it amused you, it feels good to be giving something back.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Elias Koteas and Danny Glover's characters, a couple of highly trained government operatives, do NOT know what counter intel is?

Um yer, pretty much.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

You said that someone in the movie mentioned it and that they dont know what they are talking about, and after all, THEY are the ones who said it.

Uh? They incorrectly claimed that taking a pic of the plates counts as counter-intel when it doesn't. Is this concept too hard for you to understand?

It would be the same as a so-called weapons expert seeing Swagger fire a pistol, then incorrectly say that the pistol is a Crossbow, and that Swagger is an expert with the Crossbow. We know the "expert" is wrong.

But what you're saying is, well he IS an "expert", so we MUST ignore how he didn't even know what a Crossbow was. But we'll believe his comment that Swagger is good with a Crossbow.

So in fact, Swagger has not shown in the film that he is an expert with the Crossbow (as part of this example, not literally), but we'll just go with what the expert said anyway, even though he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Originally posted by Scythe
They have three days to prepare, you mean to tell me Swagger, by the fourth day is gonna set up shop at the local park and just lay there in wait?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
The trouble is, that no matter who the other combatant is, Swagger will win, unless of course they have something to do with Star Wars. This is blatantly obvious to practically everyone, you just like to play the ''everyone's against me'' card, to get out of it - this happens in practically every debate you're in, not just in this forum but every other one too. You bait and you do it constantly, you don't debate, but purposely try and start arguments so you can get other, more intelligent, more logical posters in trouble for having a go at you.

I'm glad it amused you, it feels good to be giving something back.

Yeah, there are a handful of posters who go against me for their own pathetic reasons, but why should I give a rats ass about them? More importantly, why is this so important to you?

Purposely try and start arguments? Mhm. OK. And what are you doing now?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If he knows what 47 is capable of, that'd be his best chance.

And 47 would not know this?

Originally posted by Placidity
Nope. You just confirmed your intelligence level is very low. You still clearly don't know what constitutes counter-intel even after reading the wiki. Shame.

Even if he didnt perform counter intel, it is stated, they actually say the words, it's in the script, the director intended that to be included from the book. So whether what he did was counter intel or not is a moot point, you are splitting hairs even after I proved you wrong.

Originally posted by Placidity
Um yer, pretty much.

Uh? They incorrectly claimed that taking a pic of the plates counts as counter-intel when it doesn't. Is this concept too hard for you to understand?

It would be the same as a so-called weapons expert seeing Swagger fire a pistol, then incorrectly say that the pistol is a Crossbow, and that Swagger is an expert with the Crossbow. We know the "expert" is wrong.

But what you're saying is, well he IS an "expert", so we MUST ignore how he didn't even know what a Crossbow was. But we'll believe his comment that Swagger is good with a Crossbow.

So in fact, Swagger has not shown in the film that he is an expert with the Crossbow (as part of this example, not literally), but we'll just go with what the expert said anyway, even though he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Originally posted by Scythe
And 47 would not know this?

47 would put two and two together and realize that Swagger is going to make a stand in the woods and be forced into a situation where he no longer holds the upper hand.