Off Topic Circle Jerk

Originally posted by Lestov16
I don't think he can compare with top-tier H2H combatants like Bourne, but he certainly can take regular-trained cops like McClane.

Nothing regular about McClane.

He was an ex marine too, btw.

You should totally read 'Die Hard: Year one'.
Anyone who has actually seen the Die Hard movies will see the vast disparity between 'regular' and 'McClane' levels, regardless of training.
Either that or you are delusional enough to believe that all cops can do the reality bending shit he does.

Dude can survive a lot of shit, but to say he's some kind of invincible H2H combatant is utter bullshit.

Wait...what?
You're right, because he had a USMC tattoo in DH1.
McClane has just become more awesome to me 🙂. He obviously doesn't have the training and can't contend with tier-one special forces operators like Bauer, but still, it explains A LOT. Definitely including his gun skills.

Like I said, he's survived a lot, but his H2H skills leave a lot to be desired, especially compared to Bauer, who snaps necks like twigs.

Yeah that tattoo is clearly visible in Pearl Harbour clip too.
Hes un-KOable, and is able to survive suff that would destroy all life. Has unbreakable bones, judging by the stuff that he endures with no breakage, and Bauer can not overcome that, the second Bauer comes into range to attempt a snap McClane could one shot his ass into blissful unconciousness..

Bauer will overcome it. He no-sold a plane crash, which undoubtedly is more powerful than anything McClane has ever tanked.

And a couple days worth of explosions isn't anything compared to withstanding 20 months of torture (withstood without saying a single word out of sheer willpower) and single-handedly wiping out a platoon worth of people in the 24 hour period of his return.

Nope. DH5 shows that, and plenty of other things amounting to what would be unsurvivable trauma.

Bauer died, McClane didn't.

They weren't a platoon of McClanes.
Bauer has so much help that technically nothing he does is alone.

A plane crash is more unsurvivable than any explosion McClane took.

Bauer died after having hundreds of volts amped directly into his heart. McClane didn't because he's never had to tank that kind of damage

They were better. Chinese trained commandos.
Same can be applicable to McClane, who wouldn't have tracked down Gabriel period without Farrell's help. Other stuff like DH1 and DH2 were were isolated incidents that any well-trained soldier such as Bauer could solo.

People survive plane crashes. Its a fact.
Very very very few people would be able to do what McClane does...McClane survived direct attack by a fighter jet and went on to destroy it.
When McClane gets behind the wheel of a car, he becomes apparently unkillable and also can bend physics even more than usual.
If you don't believe me, try taking out a helicopter with a Crown Victoria.

Volts dont kill you. Amps do. Surving a Taser is an umimpressive thing in the Die Hard verse, when people including wussy reporters and small lapdogs with bugger all body mass and absorbing capacity are all tougher than Bauer.

Even the very few who survive plane crashes are not in physical condition to take on a highly trained commando squad mere minutes later like Bauer did.

The Truck is what withstood the damage, and had the pilot not been a dumbass, it would have been over for McClane and the truck. Also, the yield of the fighter jet blasts was less than that of a plane colliding into the ground at 700 mph.

Bauer can bend physics behind the wheel too. He can outright teleport.

You are completely misrepresenting the circumstances. Bauer had a tazer held directly on his heart for 7 seconds. Thornburg got tazed in the neck for 2 seconds and immediately went unconscious. If anything, you support my case 🙂

Even less are ready to do so when McClane has dealt with them.

Aye and the bullets totally Missed McClane too, when really, they shouldn't have. MIF.

Well by your rationale, the plane took all the damage, saving Bauer.

McClane teleports longer distances, faster too, and bends physics regardless of being behind a wheel or not..

You will not lecture anyone about misrepresentation, after you banging on miscontextualising Ninja Chick.

Unconscious: Not dead. The lapdog - that had so little body size (or mass to distribute and absorb the charge) that even a strike to the ass would effectively be a heart point blank shot - merely limped for a week.

I think you need to reread my sentence.

Since Indy's been dodging bullets far long than McClane, and Bond even longer, and Bauer has dodged gunfire as well, it's not really an "MIF". Sorry 🙂

Not really. Bauer was in the plane when it went down. McClane jumped out the truck before it was destroyed.

So what? Bauer is a perpetual motion machine who needs neither nourishment or sleep to function. That defies all sorts of physics right there. And he doesn't resort to his physics-defying powers as much as McClane because he's skilled enough to handle situations without luck 😛

LOL. Nikita kicked McClane's ass, no matter how much you try to deny it. He had to resort to a truck because he's too weak in H2H.

Because he didn't have it held on the most vital organ of his body for 7 seconds. And neither did the lapdog. And neither did McClane 😉 . And Bauer's grown immune to tazer electricity, as clearly seen here:
YouTube video
So yeah, stop with the downplay 🙂

Bauer died to something that McClane wouldn't really notice. All that really needs to be said.

When has McClane shown this immunity to electricity? Show that McClane can withstand a tazer on his heart for 7 seconds and not be killed. Surviving an explosion (which both him and Bauer have done) isn't the same as having your heartrate directly stopped.

The small taser that killed Bauer is the kind women often carry as a means to ward off rapist, purse snatchers and miscreants, they're considered non lethal.

If you think one of those could kill McClane, then you're a lunatic.

Originally posted by Lestov16
[B]I think you need to reread my sentence.

Since Indy's been dodging bullets far long than McClane, and Bond even longer, and Bauer has dodged gunfire as well, it's not really an "MIF". Sorry 🙂

Not really. Bauer was in the plane when it went down. McClane jumped out the truck before it was destroyed.

If McClane had destroyed the plane, Bauer would have had no escape.

So what? Bauer is a perpetual motion machine who needs neither nourishment or sleep to function. That defies all sorts of physics right there. And he doesn't resort to his physics-defying powers as much as McClane because he's skilled enough to handle situations without luck 😛

LOL. Nikita kicked McClane's ass, no matter how much you try to deny it. He had to resort to a truck because he's too weak in H2H.

Because he didn't have it held on the most vital organ of his body for 7 seconds. And neither did the lapdog. And neither did McClane 😉 .

His penis/brain had nothing to do with it.
You dont know that the Lapdog didnt have 13 seconds worth.

So yeah, stop with the downplay 🙂

Im not downplaying, but you most certainly are.

And you're crying.

And pooping your diaper.

Originally posted by Robtard
The small taser that killed Bauer is the kind women often carry as a means to ward off rapist, purse snatchers and miscreants, they're considered non lethal.

If you think one of those could kill McClane, then you're a lunatic.

Yup. Better call Tony.

Lol, McNuthuggers.

Originally posted by Robtard
The small taser that killed Bauer is the kind women often carry as a means to ward off rapist, purse snatchers and miscreants, they're considered non lethal.

How do you know the kind of tazer they had? Do you know the model number too? How do you know it's not a fictional, infinitely-powered one that couldn't exist in reality, like Agent 47's impossible 4 km sniper rifle?

And any tazer, even the weakest one, can flatline a human being if it's held directly on their heart of multiple seconds. Common sense 😬

Originally posted by Robtard
If you think one of those could kill McClane, then you're a lunatic.

Not really. If it was held on his heart for 7 seconds, McClane would flatline. Again, surviving explosions is NOT THE SAME THING as having your heartrate directly stopped. And McClane has never shown immunity to electricity, so your claim that he can survive it is baseless.

You may have noticed: McClane and Bauer are different characters . (Despite Bauer being a cheap TV rip off) You cannot say how McClane would have reacted to a tazer shot. But you're trying to anyway.

McClane is factually tougher than a little chihuahua dog.
And that chihuahua dog is much tougher than Bauer, judging by the results of "who can take a tazering" competition.

Thusly: McClane>Chihuahua yappy type dog>Bauer

LOL. You accuse me of making unjustified accusations when you can't even prove that McClane will withstand a tazer shot, yet still make the claims.

The tazer was held on the dog's heart for seven seconds? Screenfeats please.

Your logic is flawed because the dog did not receive near as much tazering as Bauer, not to mention that when used on a human, it knocked him unconscious after 1 second tap. Bauer had it held on his heart for 7 seconds which would flat line any man, including McClane.

You cannot disprove it yet you make an assertion which I countered.

Screenfeats disproving it please.

You havent been listening, have you?
The size of the dog puts the dog at a vast disadvantage compared to a human due to its lesser capacity fro distribution and absorption of the charge.
Your speculation is not fact: McClane has tanked PLENTY of stuff that "would flatline any man" (or dismember one). Yet still he survived.

Ergo: You have nothing.