Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Well We know that the Source is ultimately the power behind these 5th world new gods. and we know the source bitched the Spectre before for messing with DS. And we also know that Libra works for the newly upgraded DS. Sooooooo.........
Spectre has a pretty low showing in Revelations #1. It's not looking good for him.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Sooooooo Crispus Allen needs to find a new vocation.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
We'll see friend. It's only #1 after all and the Spear has returned.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Spectre jobs way too much to too many opponents and situations for me to consider him Living Tribunal's equal. Living Tribunal has jobbed to Korvac, Scathan and Thanos w/ THOTU.
One of the best feats that people like to throw around for Spectre is when he manages to become one with the universe and become one with everything. Hell, Living Tribunal managed to grant that to Silver Surfer like he was giving out candy for Halloween. Just my two cents. Others are more suited to a battlezone though.
Considering that unlike the Living Tribunal, it is the host (Corrigan, Hal) and its perceptions of the power that guides the Spectre thus low showings not necessarily being a representation of his true power, not to mention many more appearances in comics on Spectre's behalf in comics compared to the Living Tribunal, it is pretty obvious that the Spectre would have more 'low showings' throughout history.
How exactly has Living Tribunal jobbed to THOTU ? Are you suggesting that Living Tribunal is more powerfull than Thanos w/THOTU but lost due to jobbing ? I sincerily hope not 🙂
Eh ? That feat is in no way a representation of Spectre's power since he didn't do it under his own power, but instead was offered to see how it truly is to be 'God'. People like to throw this around for the Spectre ? Not really, and why would they since this isn't a representation of Spectre's 'normal' levels of power ? It is a 'different' version of Spectre altogether when it comes to powerlevel since he became 'God'. And comparing what Spectre became to what Living Tribunal transformed Silver Surfer into is laughable to say the least ..
What most people fail to realize is that battles are based on feats, solely on canon feats. This is the amped Spectre that fought against the Anti-monitor--and the only thing he did was fighting the Anti-monitor who was about to destroy the Multiverse.
Thanos has a lot more feats--not to mention that other users of the infinity gems had the same power, and are therefore also creditable.
Now, the Anti-monitor could destroy the infinite universes (the multiverse). The ultimate nullifier destroyed and recreated the multiverse in a click. That's more than the Anti-monitor ever did, more than the amped Spectre who defeated the Anti-monitor did.
The DC bigots will throw around these hilarious titles such as "Spectre is the wrath of God, duh!". However it's an fallacious argument. Titles does not equal power, feats does. Unless this particular Spectre's, from the "Infinity crisis", feats it's not valid. There are probably version of the Spectre that can overpower the gems, this version however have done nothing to even hint that he could handle the united power of the gems.
It's as simple as that.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Considering that unlike the Living Tribunal, it is the host (Corrigan, Hal) and its perceptions of the power that guides the Spectre thus low showings not necessarily being a representation of his true power
Furthermore, it's hypocritical to say "Just because character A hasn't preformed the feat doesn't mean that he can." It can be further translated into "Just because you can't prove it, doesn't mean that it isn't true."
If you brought the statement above to court you would be ignored. Why? Because it's a logical fallacy.
not to mention many more appearances in comics on Spectre's behalf in comics compared to the Living Tribunal, it is pretty obvious that the Spectre would have more 'low showings' throughout history.
If one character has lower feats than another character, simple logic confirms that the one with the lower feats is weaker.
Eh ? That feat is in no way a representation of Spectre's power since he didn't do it under his own power, but instead was offered to see how it truly is to be 'God'.
People like to throw this around for the Spectre ? Not really, and why would they since this isn't a representation of Spectre's 'normal' levels of power ? It is a 'different' version of Spectre altogether when it comes to powerlevel since he became 'God'. And comparing what Spectre became to what Living Tribunal transformed Silver Surfer into is laughable to say the least ..
But then again, the Presence isn't omnipotent so perhaps Spectre was "God".
The Presence omnipotence was disproved in the Lucifer series. Even in the "Infinity crisis", "Spectre had more power than his maker could even dream of".