Look, it says that he's nigh invulernable on Byss. It specifies the location for a reason. That his Force abilities came much easier there (as opposed to somewhere else). That's why.
And why not with Force Lightning? Because if he could have disintegrated it with Force Lightning, why would he let it hit him?
Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay. Can we compromise and say that DE Palpatine is capable of disintegrating the cooling unit, but not with his Force Lightning and only while being amped by Byss or another Dark Side rich world? (Which Publius left out of his summary.)
Let me put it to you like this: if Publius left it out, it was left out for a reason. The guy is infallible. Period. The end. Probably because Nai might be right about that, as well.
Edit: Um... what? Well, why did he have to disintegrate the cooling unit at all, when he could have simply just set it aside? Probably to demonstrate to everyone present that he's a badass and it's pointless to attack him?
You don't need to make compromises, Enyalus, because he didn't disintegrate anything. You guys are being irritatingly dense. The artwork is ridiculous throughout the series, and if you want to take it literally then Luke looks like he has down-syndrome. The sourcebook clearly states that he "shrugged off" the "impact" of the cooling unit, and also makes not of the fact that while on Byss, he seemed invulnerable and his use of the Force was more an afterthought than an exercise.
I don't know if this is bias, irrationality, or if you're just not getting it.
'Nigh invulnerable' will cover surviving a blow of a ton of metal to the skull. It doesn't exactly cover offensive abilities. And how much harder would it be for the most powerful Sith with an absolute grasp of the Dark Side to utilize his power in another area? Would it be a second difference? Half that?
And if you've got no issue shrugging off half a ton of metal, why not?
Originally posted by Faunus
You don't need to make compromises, Enyalus, because he didn't disintegrate anything. You guys are being irritatingly dense. The artwork is ridiculous throughout the series, and if you want to take it literally then Luke looks like he has down-syndrome. The sourcebook clearly states that he "shrugged off" the "impact" of the cooling unit, and also makes not of the fact that while on Byss, he seemed invulnerable and his use of the Force was more an afterthought than an exercise.I don't know if this is bias, irrationality, or if you're just not getting it.
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Originally posted by Enyalus
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Oh, be quiet. As great as Faunus is, he's no Publius. The comic shows it disintegrating and it is conveniently not present when the scan shifts; that he "shrugged off" the weight doesn't contradict the disintegration. As Nai and Publius both state, it hit him, but he was unaffected and disintegrated it.
Originally posted by Gideon
Oh, be quiet. As great as Faunus is, he's no Publius. The comic shows it disintegrating and it is conveniently not present when the scan shifts; that he "shrugged off" the weight doesn't contradict the disintegration. As Nai and Publius both state, it hit him, but he was unaffected and disintegrated it.
Yeah, but since neither Nai nor Publius amount to canon, their opinions don't dictate them being correct. If it was disintegrated, the writer of the DES would have stated that, considering he also mentions "shrugged off" the "impact" of it. He could have easily added "disintegrated" if it had happened. It didn't. Which is why the writer left it out.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, but since neither Nai nor Publius amount to canon, their opinions don't dictate them being correct.
Nai? Well, of course not. But my Master, the Great Publius? He is certainly every bit as canon as George Lucas himself. Perhaps even moreso! Do not demonstrate such blasphemy again.
If it was disintegrated, the writer of the DES would have stated that, considering he also mentions "shrugged off" the "impact" of it. He could have easily added "disintegrated" if it had happened. It didn't. Which is why the writer left it out.
Don't presume, in all seriousness, to dictate to the rest of us exactly what the writer had in mind. You may question why he left it out, but you may not tell us as though it is fact. For the record, I find an enfeebled old sorcerer being nailed directly by a ton of steel and walking away unscathed far more impressive than that same sorcerer using the Force to disintegrate it.
Originally posted by GideonCanon > Publius. Canon makes no mention whatsoever of "disintegration."
Oh, be quiet. As great as Faunus is, he's no Publius. The comic shows it disintegrating and it is conveniently not present when the scan shifts; that he "shrugged off" the weight doesn't contradict the disintegration. As Nai and Publius both state, it hit him, but he was unaffected and disintegrated it.
And if artwork takes precedence over narration and character insight, then Exar Kun's hand was never burned by the repeated explosive bursts from his amulet - despite the fact that he says "the flesh is burned... but I feel no pain" - because two panels later, we see no damage on his hand.
Srsly.
Originally posted by LightsnakeDespite the fact that the amulet is never stated to have done so, or to be capable of doing so?
I'm pretty sure the amulet heals his hand, too. Only way we can explain that.
No. Artist inconsistency.
The other explanation is Leia flings the unit on his head SO hard it shatters.Or that it doesn't really break that much, and you're reading too deeply into the art.
Or that the writer of the DE sourcebook missed that fact. Errors are possible?Or that you're being desperate, and happen to be wrong?
This is lame.
Alright, this is regarding LS's questions, and it is the final time I'm going to post the entire thing, since I've already done so numerous times in PH:
"Despite his clone's rapid deterioration, Palpatine seemed invulnerable while on Byss, and his use of Force powers there was more of an afterthought than an exercise. When Leia Organa Solo brandished a lightsaber at him, Palpatine waved his fingers and the ancient weapon shattered. When Leia tried to kill the Emperor by dropping a cooling unit on him, Palpatine shrugged off the crushing impact of a ton of machinery. Even were Palpatine's dark side adepts not at his disposal, the planet was populated with an army of the Emperor's most loyal subjects."
Now, he mentions him being nigh invulnerable while on Byss and his Force powers being much easier to use there. Followed by his two feats (the lightsaber destruction and the cooling unit). Next, he goes back to talking about the planet. Why doesn't he specifically state that the feats are because he's on Byss in that particular sentence? It's redundant. He already mentions it in the sentence directly above. And continues to praise the planet's abilities in the form of an army and dark side adepts directly below.
Please, think critically.
Originally posted by Faunus
Despite the fact that the amulet is never stated to have done so, or to be capable of doing so?No. Artist inconsistency.
His hands are fine next panel...and remain fine all throughout. The explanation is likely that they were healed.
Or that it doesn't really break that much, and you're reading too deeply into the art.
Or that you're being desperate, and happen to be wrong?This is lame.
Originally posted by LightsnakeDoesn't matter. They haven't shown the ability to do so, there's no reason to assume they can, so for all intents and purposes they can't. End of story.
Considering the amulets are ultra destructive and can also summon Sith ghosts, destroy spirits and create holograms? They could cook Exar breakfast and I wouldn't be surprised
His hands are fine next panel...and remain fine all throughout. The explanation is likely that they were healed.Artist. Error.
Unless Sirak really knew Vaapad, you have no case.
Half of it is burst apart in that image, with more little particles breaking off.So a cold chunk of metal weighing a ton broke up upon falling several meters onto an "invulnerable" being's head. There was no indication of offensive Force-usage. You have no case.
I like my explanation better..So do you creationists.
You're totally evoking a fundamentalist vibe, man.
Originally posted by Faunus
[B]Doesn't matter. They haven't shown the ability to do so, there's no reason to assume they can, so for all intents and purposes they can't. End of story.
Unless Sirak really knew Vaapad, you have no case.
So a cold chunk of metal weighing a ton broke up upon falling several meters onto an "invulnerable" being's head. There was no indication of offensive Force-usage. You have no case.