Originally posted by Faunus
Yeah, that was more than a little stupid. Worse was the fact that eight or ten stormtroopers couldn't shoot three running Senators - at least one of whom had tied hands - and a blind Jedi, despite the fact that they all had their backs to the squad.Then again, it's Star Wars. What'd you expect?
I'm just curious what the **** they were thinking when they saw the Emperor and Starkiller fight. "Better sit this one out?"
And Vader's LOL inducing... "Let's keep a nice distance..."
Originally posted by Gideon
The true topic here is Vader. While our assessment of previous characters is hardly set in stone, we need to keep our eye on one at a time. Furthermore, Lightsnake has addressed and refuted most of your argument. Truly, Enyalus, I applaud the effort. Your explanation would have satisfied the Prophecy loyalists (including myself) and given further meaning to Anakin's sacrifice, allowing DE to have a true place amongst fans. But an official canon source has concluded: Palpatine was more powerful reincarnated than his prequel and original trilogy state.
Okay. I'll concede that DE Sidious is the most powerful version of Palpatine, both in power and in combat - if everyone else concedes that he cannot simply run around disintegrating lightsabers and "large metal objects." Cool? 🙂
Unless, of course, we specify that the fight is on Byss or Korriban or something.
Y'know...I was considering something...
Whose fault is the Sith survive and that the Republic falls? Johun. Othone.
In the big fight...who's the brilliant one who force pushes WORROR and gets Sarro killed? Johun. Great strategy, moron! No, don't bother to warn your comrade who could conceivably lose his life by the loss of Battle Meditation!
And earlier in the fight? Sarro throws Zannah off her guard, moves to finish her, which will allow him and Johun to focus totally on Bane, meaning a swift death to the Dark Lord...Sarro readies himself, a strike that will allow them to rid the Galaxy of the Sith for all time!
And then Johun flings himself in front of Sarro with a complete useless swing, allowing Zannah to recover and fight on.
I can only imagine Sarro considers-seriously considers- that at this point, he might just want to kill Johun himself and tell Farfalla and Raskta Zannah did it. They'd probably understand. I mean, throwing a completely unskilled Niman user after a Sith Lord?
So congratulations, Johun.
And to make it even more insulting he gives Zannah this wounded puppy "Please don't!" look.
When does he have a beard, though?
You know what's incredibly ironic? If they'd sent Farfalla and Johun after Zannah and Sarro and Raskta after Bane...it'd have gone SO much better. Or even better, just Sarro, Farfalla and Johun after Bane and let Raskta kill Zannah in three seconds.
Also...Darovit...as best as I can put it...
Darovit: Rah! Jedi! You bring your WAR here!
Johun:....like that's MY fault?! What, we're supposed to LET the Sith take over!
Darovit: Well...no! But war is bad! Bah, I spit on you for it!
*Flashback*
Trooper: Please! Mercy!
Darovit: MERCY IS FOR THE WEAK!
*End flashback*
Darovit: I feel very comfortable judging you!
And the Orbalisks...anything they CAN'T do?
Zannah: Master, can we go see a movie tonight?
Bane: The orbalisks transmit all the latest box office hits to my head.
Zannah: Can we...rent a book or something?
Bane: They function as storytellers as well.
Zannah: Can I just order food? Just a little human contact!
Bane: They provide me all essential nutrients!
Zannah:...What ELSE do they do?
Bane: Well, on friday nights I think of Githany and get...very lonely-
Zannah: I'M SORRY I ASKED
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Y'know...I was considering something...Whose fault is the Sith survive and that the Republic falls? Johun. Othone.
In the big fight...who's the brilliant one who force pushes WORROR and gets Sarro killed? Johun. Great strategy, moron! No, don't bother to warn your comrade who could conceivably lose his life by the loss of Battle Meditation!
And earlier in the fight? Sarro throws Zannah off her guard, moves to finish her, which will allow him and Johun to focus totally on Bane, meaning a swift death to the Dark Lord...Sarro readies himself, a strike that will allow them to rid the Galaxy of the Sith for all time!And then Johun flings himself in front of Sarro with a complete useless swing, allowing Zannah to recover and fight on.
I can only imagine Sarro considers-seriously considers- that at this point, he might just want to kill Johun himself and tell Farfalla and Raskta Zannah did it. They'd probably understand. I mean, throwing a completely unskilled Niman user after a Sith Lord?
So congratulations, Johun.
Soooo....what you're saying...is that, based on sheer historical impact, Johun Othone is more powerful than Darth Sidious....
I win!! 😄 😉
Originally posted by EnyalusI am not too sure about "disintegrating" large metal objects(I don't think thats possible, a pissed off vader merely was only able to bend a thick blast door) but for lightsabers i think its plausible considering their size, i mean rise of darth vader already made it clear that vader himself could have easily crushed his saber hilt so i don't see why anyone stronger can't do it with the force.
Okay. I'll concede that DE Sidious is the most powerful version of Palpatine, both in power and in combat - if everyone else concedes that he cannot simply run around disintegrating lightsabers and "large metal objects." Cool? 🙂
Leia's lightsaber may had been old and crappy but didn't vader crush aura sings saber blade with sheer will power in some novel?
BTW i'm not trying to debate, just wantedto bring out a point.
Originally posted by Gideon
Your sarcasm is inappropriate. My suggestion is that you dedicate your posts to productive discussions.
I was actually somewhat serious. I phrased it in a sarcastic manner to downplay the fact that I, actually, am looking forward to what your assessment of him will be.
Originally posted by Big S
Leia's lightsaber may had been old and crappy but didn't vader crush aura sings saber blade with sheer will power in some novel?
He overloads the crystal with his will, yes. He needed to be holding her blade to do so, though. Also, Vader's really the master at TK and mental Force powers. Whose potential might, according to the Emperor, still be greater than his own, despite the suit. So I don't think it's safe to assume the Emperor can go around disintegrating lightsabers whenever he wants to, especially since he doesn't do so to Luke after losing their duel on his ship, when his life might be in serious danger.