Should married people be allowed to sleep with other people?

Started by chithappens24 pages

Originally posted by inimalist
lol

I don't know, it is only one of the most mystifying and inspirational experiences a person can ever feel.

Like, those lazy ass poets, writers, artists, playwrites etc. Give em 3000 years and they can't figure it out, but lo and behold, buddy on the internet has love down to a single statement.

He belongs to SBA (Super Badassmen of America).

Originally posted by inimalist
lol

I don't know, it is only one of the most mystifying and inspirational experiences a person can ever feel.

Like, those lazy ass poets, writers, artists, playwrites etc. Give em 3000 years and they can't figure it out, but lo and behold, buddy on the internet has love down to a single statement.

Yes, making it that complicated and putting all that onto the term is what causes the problem.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That kinda implies that it is a punishment. Odd.

Being married to my sister? It would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That kinda implies that it is a punishment. Odd.

He's really made the whole idea look bad now...

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
We make it complicated and that is part of the problem.

ok, but your just arguing in circles

if you have no proof, then give me logic

explain love. and not just as an "intense emotional reaction", unless you think you can accurately describe what those are.

my assumption is that you use the term in place of something like "magic man done it", because if you understood just how complex emotions are...

not to mention that there are HUGE differences between bottom-up neurological activation and subjective experience. The most obvious one is a smoker feeling relaxed while smoking, even though their brain is in stimulated mode.

Originally posted by chithappens
He belongs to SBA (Super Badassmen of America).

oh man, how do i sign up?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Yes, making it that complicated and putting all that onto the term is what causes the problem.

do you believe "love" is a biological experience or a socially learned phenomena?

which aspects of "love" come from each? and provide some evidence please

Originally posted by inimalist

explain love.

I did, it is an affectionate emotional response to something with varying degrees of severity.

That IS how I define it. Nice and simple.

When you base a relationship around love being this awe-inspiring massively complex emotion for ages. You create so much for the relationship to live up to in your mind. That puts allot of stress into the relationship.

Originally posted by inimalist
oh man, how do i sign up?

do you believe "love" is a biological experience or a socially learned phenomena?


That boils down to a question of can only humans feel love?

Originally posted by inimalist
oh man, how do i sign up?

First, become a Blue Mage and go through the Cave of Wonders. After you gain the abilities of 30 monsters, a secret entrance will open to the magic lamp. Abu will touch the red ruby and then you have to make it out of the molten lava cave, ALIVE.

Then, you have to find a Phoenix Down. To do this, make it through Spring Yard Zone and once you make it to the top of Mount Fuji, bump this as loud as you can to bring Bahamut from out of his slumber:

The Music You Need To Succed

While he is still jamming to the music, hit him with Flare and Holy by using Double Cast.

He will die from laughter and then you get to use him as an esper and you also get the Phoenix Down.

Show Seprioth the phoenix down and tell him I sent you.

thumbsup good luck

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I did, it is an affectionate emotional response to something with varying degrees of severity.

That IS how I define it. Nice and simple.

When you base a relationship around love being this awe-inspiring massively complex emotion for ages. You create so much for the relationship to live up to in your mind. That puts allot of stress into the relationship.

you have totally ignored what I asked you and strawmaned my entire point

please respond to what I have asked, and stop assuming things about my relationships. I am certainly not suffering from the love i experience not living up to my expectations, that is ridiculous.

so ya

a) Explain what an affectionate emotional response is, and to follow up, explain how it varies with severity, and what features define severity

b) Explain if you think love is learned or biological, and explain which aspects of the subjective emotion of love come from either

Originally posted by chithappens
First, become a Blue Mage and go through the Cave of Wonders. After you gain the abilities of 30 monsters, a secret entrance will open to the magic lamp. Abu will touch the red ruby and then you have to make it out of the molten lava cave, ALIVE.

Then, you have to find a Phoenix Down. To do this, make it through Spring Yard Zone and once you make it to the top of Mount Fuji, bump this as loud as you can to bring Bahamut from out of his slumber:

The Music You Need To Succed

While he is still jamming to the music, hit him with Flare and Holy by using Double Cast.

He will die from laughter and then you get to use him as an esper and you also get the Phoenix Down.

Show Seprioth the phoenix down and tell him I sent you.

thumbsup good luck

lol, i feel I'm missing a reference here

Originally posted by chithappens
[B]
The Music You Need To Succed B]

Soo good! 😄 😄 😄

Originally posted by inimalist
I am certainly not suffering from the love i experience not living up to my expectations, that is ridiculous.

You may not be , but allot of times people do feel stress and ruin relationships because love doesn't live up to what they have built it up to be in their minds.

Explain what an affectionate emotional response is

A dictionary should be sufficient to help you there.

explain how it varies with severity.

I love my friends, some more so then others. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp

Explain if you think love is learned or biological,

As I said that comes down to whether or not you believe love is exclusive to humans.

And you can ask all day until your fingers get tired, but I am not going to respond in exactly the way you want me to. So if thats the debate your looking for, go write up the entire debate, including the questions and responses you like and find someone willing to act it out with you, but that person is not me.

So if you do not like my response that is your problem and yours alone to deal with. I am not going to change my response simply because you don't like it.

Originally posted by chithappens
First, become a Blue Mage and go through the Cave of Wonders. After you gain the abilities of 30 monsters, a secret entrance will open to the magic lamp. Abu will touch the red ruby and then you have to make it out of the molten lava cave, ALIVE.

Then, you have to find a Phoenix Down. To do this, make it through Spring Yard Zone and once you make it to the top of Mount Fuji, bump this as loud as you can to bring Bahamut from out of his slumber:

The Music You Need To Succed

While he is still jamming to the music, hit him with Flare and Holy by using Double Cast.

He will die from laughter and then you get to use him as an esper and you also get the Phoenix Down.

Show Seprioth the phoenix down and tell him I sent you.

thumbsup good luck

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, i feel I'm missing a reference here

I'm still translating kanji so this is crazy random:

Blue Mage, Phoenix Down, Bahamut: Final Fantasy (video game)

Cave of Wonders, Abu, molten lava cave: Aladdin

Spring Yard Zone, music: Sonic the Hedgehog

Mt. Fuji: Japan

That's all 😱

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Soo good! 😄 😄 😄

cheers

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
A dictionary should be sufficient to help you there.

no it wont sir. what I am saying, to you, is that an "affectionate emotional response" means something. I know what each word means, but the problem is, as a phrase, it is telling me nothing.

One would assume you know how emotions work. I'm sort of asking you to prove that you have some idea of what you are talking about.

You know what the amygdala is? There is a neurological disorder that comes from a disconnection of the amygdala from the thalamus, meaning information processed in the amygdala never makes it to consciousness. People with this disorder are able to identify people from basic physical characteristics, yet are convinced that their loved ones are clones or robots. The thinking is that, while they can identify the people physically, the emotional response from the amygdala does not activate, so they do not feel the emotions associated with the person, making them think the identical looking individual is an impostor.

now, one might be compelled to say that this means the amygdala is responsible for love, but, there is no doubt that the sufferer still loves those close to them, they just cannot recognize it. Also, if, instead of seeing someone, the sufferer talks to them, they get the same emotional recognition.

I'm looking for sort of an explanation at that level, because nothing seems simple, to me, about that. If you can put it into a single sentence, I'd be really impressed.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I love my friends, some more so then others. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp

lol, I'm more inclined to say you have never really been in love if you are comparing the way you feel for your friends to the way you feel about your lover...

All I can say is that there are very different emotions, to me, involved with those I am in love with and people who I love in the platonic sense

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
As I said that comes down to whether or not you believe love is exclusive to humans.

And you can ask all day until your fingers get tired, but I am not going to respond in exactly the way you want me to. So if thats the debate your looking for, go write up the entire debate, including the questions and responses you like and find someone willing to act it out with you, but that person is not me.

So if you do not like my response that is your problem and yours alone to deal with. I am not going to change my response simply because you don't like it.

lol, show some integrity. I don't want you to change your response at all, and in fact, your inability to defend or even provide general working definitions of what you are talking about is doing a way better job than I ever could of making you look even more ridiculous.

anyways, the fact that you can't/won't answer that question shows that love, at the very least, is not fully understood by you, potentially then, not making it simple.

Originally posted by chithappens
I'm still translating kanji so this is crazy random:

Blue Mage, Phoenix Down, Bahamut: Final Fantasy (video game)

Cave of Wonders, Abu, molten lava cave: Aladdin

Spring Yard Zone, music: Sonic the Hedgehog

Mt. Fuji: Japan

That's all 😱

lol, alright, I got some of them then.

Originally posted by inimalist
no it wont sir. what I am saying, to you, is that an "affectionate emotional response" means something. I know what each word means, but the problem is, as a phrase, it is telling me nothing.

You can't gleam the meaning from the words involved? Really?

lol, I'm more inclined to say you have never really been in love if you are comparing the way you feel for your friends to the way you feel about your lover...

That's why I was trying to show how love can be more severe in some cases.

All I can say is that there are very different emotions, to me, involved with those I am in love with and people who I love in the platonic sense

You seem to want everyone to see love the way you do. Romantic Love does not require a physical attraction.

I don't want you to change your response at all, and in fact, your inability to defend or even provide general working definitions of what you are talking about is doing a way better job than I ever could of making you look even more ridiculous.

I have, just not in a way that pleases you obviously. As I said I do not care whether you like my answers or reasoning.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
You can't gleam the meaning from the words involved? Really?

why don't you explain it and make me look dumb in front of everybody?

Originally posted by inimalist
why don't you explain it and make me look dumb in front of everybody?

Because I am neither that petty nor that cruel.