Thanos vs Onslaught (Xavier/Magneto/Franklin/Nate)

Started by Aster Phoenix30 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have, but how does Onslaught win.

If you cant tell me how,then you are trolling.

I believe the word is contained in the message you quoted.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I believe the word is contained in the message you quoted.
So,you refuse to answer me when I ask you how a character wins?

I have many times, you have not yet proven that he can overcome that power without help.

I have no opinion on who wins, but it seems a bit of a double standard that Aster has been consistently asking for scans but does not seem to have provided any of his own within the recent debate.

There are scans a few pages back that show Onslaught is an immensely powerful telepath. And those were before Nate Grey was even added to the picture.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I have many times, you have not yet proven that he can overcome that power without help.
You wont even tell me how Onslaught wins this? 😂

Originally posted by King Kandy
I have no opinion on who wins, but it seems a bit of a double standard that Aster has been consistently asking for scans but does not seem to have provided any of his own within the recent debate.
Exactly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You wont even tell me how Onslaught wins this? 😂

I have many times, now prove he can resist it. Now you are trolling. You have your answer now prove Thanos can resist without help a TP attack from Onslaught.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I have many times, now prove he can resist it. Now you are trolling. You have your answer now prove Thanos can resist without help a TP attack from Onslaught.
He resisted Moondragon without aid.

So, are you saying Onslaught mindrapes him?

Post the quote where you told me how Onslaught wins this.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
And it's been proven with scans if you look back that Onslaught is a TP of incredible power. Now you have to prove that without help Thanos can resist that power.
He had no problem mind-raping Galactus...so unless you think Onslaught's on a level higher than him, Thanos shouldn't have a problem.

But what?

Thanos had help?

From Moondragon?

Surely you jest.

In the act of mind-raping Galactus, exactly how did Moondragon help? In the actual act?

Her only purpose was to establish the link...it was all Thanos from there. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to initiate a telepathic communication on his own...or maybe he'd rather someone else be on the receiving end in the event of a psychic feedback...who knows?

He won't have to worry about a psychic link being established against Onslaught...as Onslaught will surely be the one to initiate it.

Now tell me how the combined psi power of Xavier and Nate Grey would withstand a mind-rape that left the mighty Galactus feeling psychically molested.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He resisted Moondragon without aid.

Well you seem to understand by using this as a defense how I mean for Onslaught to attack him.

Now prove that a gemless Moondragon is on par as far as TP with Onslaught.

Originally posted by Lord S
He had no problem mind-raping Galactus...so unless you think Onslaught's on a level higher than him, Thanos shouldn't have a problem.

But what?

Thanos had help?

From Moondragon?

Surely you jest.

In the act of mind-raping Galactus, exactly how did Moondragon help? In the actual act?

Her only purpose was to establish the link.

So he needed her help to do it, yet Xavier was able to do it without help and Onslaught is much more powerful since he has the powers of Nate Grey and Franklin as well.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So he needed her help to do it, yet Xavier was able to do it without help and Onslaught is much more powerful since he has the powers of Nate Grey and Franklin as well.
Stop ignoring the question...how did she help in the actual psychic assault/molestation of Galactus?

Thanos wins. Here's why:

- High resistence to tp (Never been mindrape a single time)

- High resistence of matter manipulation (Being born an eternal, he have a complete control on his molecule. PLUS, he's one of the few being able to travel in the nexus of reality without a scratch.)

- Have faced more dangerous opponent (DP Tyrant is a Galactus Lite (really Lite) but still have power to rival with the toughest Skyfathers lvler) and Odin is a magical being. Magic, in Marvel, is an alien power to cosmic bein (said by Galactus when he faced Agamotto). Not only he survive an all-out pissed/bloodlusted Odin, but he gives him a match. Onslaught have been beaten by mere mutants.)

- Smart and cunning SOB (Thanos is smarter (by miles) that Doom. Onslaught have been outsmarted by mutants. Geez!)

And most importantly:

- The Pimpslap power (Thanos make shut the **** up both Drax and Hulk with one. On the other hand, Onslaught have been hurt by Hulk.)

The way I see it, Onslaught is at best between herald lvler and skyfather. Thanos is far above that. Silver Surfer would be fairer.

Originally posted by Lord S
Stop ignoring the question...how did she help in the actual psychic assault/molestation of Galactus?

I'm not ignoring the question, but the fact remains he could not have done it without her.

Originally posted by Lord S
He had no problem mind-raping Galactus...so unless you think Onslaught's on a level higher than him, Thanos shouldn't have a problem.

But what?

Thanos had help?

From Moondragon?

Surely you jest.

In the act of mind-raping Galactus, exactly how did Moondragon help? In the actual act?

Her only purpose was to establish the link...it was all Thanos from there. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to initiate a telepathic communication on his own...or maybe he'd rather someone else be on the receiving end in the event of a psychic feedback...who knows?

He won't have to worry about a psychic link being established against Onslaught...as Onslaught will surely be the one to initiate it.

Now tell me how the combined psi power of Xavier and Nate Grey would withstand a mind-rape that left the mighty Galactus feeling psychically molested.

Nicely done.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Now prove that a gemless Moondragon is on par as far as TP with Onslaught.

No, i've got an idea... how about YOU prove Onslaught is on par with a gemless Moondragon. He already posted something in the way of evidence, it's your turn now.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos wins. Here's why:

- High resistence to tp (Never been mindrape a single time)


Never faced without help a mind as powerful as Onslaught

- High resistence of matter manipulation (Being born an eternal, he have a complete control on his molecule. PLUS, he's one of the few being able to travel in the nexus of reality without a scratch.)

As I understand it, this is due to his chair. So please show where he does it without the chair or any other help.

Have faced more dangerous opponent (DP Tyrant is a Galactus Lite (really Lite) but still have power to rival with the toughest Skyfathers lvler) and Odin is a magical being. Magic, in Marvel, is an alien power to cosmic bein (said by Galactus when he faced Agamotto). Not only he survive an all-out pissed/bloodlusted Odin, but he gives him a match. Onslaught have been beaten by mere mutants.)

But has never faced without help a power like Onslaught's on his level.

- Smart and cunning SOB (Thanos is smarter (by miles) that Doom. Onslaught have been outsmarted by mutants. Geez!)

He gets no prep in this fight so that won't help.

- The Pimpslap power (Thanos make shut the **** up both Drax and Hulk with one. On the other hand, Onslaught have been hurt by Hulk.)

Onslaught even stated he wanted that to happen in order to achieve his final form.

There I debunked each part of your case.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I'm not ignoring the question, but the fact remains he could not have done it without her.
Contact will be initiated by Onslaught. thanos doesnt need to initiate it. Thats the point.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, i've got an idea... how about YOU prove Onslaught is on par with a gemless Moondragon. He already posted something in the way of evidence, it's your turn now.

As has been stated in this thread people claim the best a gemless moondragon can do is stalemate Xavier.

Onslaught overwhelmed Xavier and then added Nate Grey's and Franklin's psi power to his own.