Originally posted by truejedi
i agree. This is ridiculous the way that it is assumed that because the force power exists, that Revan had them all. They are CHOICES. Very logically, the entire game could be played without ONE force ability.
True, Revan may not have had ALL of them, but do we have a canical resourse to tell which ones he did have? no. It would, however, be logical to assume that he did have a large Majority of them.
Either way, even with the basest force powers, as great a strategist as Revan was, he could still beat Starkiller.
And if you assume that Revan had base forcepowers, you have to assume that Starkiller had the weakest level of his force powers, since there is NO cannical basis with which to judge either character's force abilities.
Originally posted by Enyalus
TG, I can't believe you just agreed with Sidious66. Your coolness rating has been lowered exponentially.Anywho, I've got proof that Revan > Mace in power.
Revan is described as 'the heart of the Force.' Guess where else that quote comes into play at? When Luke 'anchors' himself in the 'heart of the Force' so deeply that not even a supermassive black hole would be able to move him.
Supermassive black hole > Mace.
Revan > Supermassive black hole. Ergo,
Revan > Mace.
Wrong! Kreia said looking at him was LIKE looking in the heart of the force, not that he was the heart of the force. Still doesn't prove he was more powerful than Mace. Kreia could have said the same thing about Mace.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Some people really do use that statement as an arguement.
You strike me as the type who seems to think that "new" characters are better than older ones or that by aggrandizing the prowess of everyone that Palpatine has fought, hated, feared, debated with, or looked at, it will in turn reflect upon him.
Either thought is retarded. While we can't prove that Revan is more powerful than Mace, it can certainly be inferred. Not that it matters, since no one is arguing that he can defeat Revan in a lightsaber duel anyway.
Originally posted by Gideon
You strike me as the type who seems to think that "new" characters are better than older ones or that by aggrandizing the prowess of everyone that Palpatine has fought, hated, feared, debated with, or looked at, it will in turn reflect upon him.Either thought is retarded. While we can't prove that Revan is more powerful than Mace, it can certainly be inferred. Not that it matters, since no one is arguing that he can defeat Revan in a lightsaber duel anyway.
I never said Mace was more powerful than Revan. I said Mace has shown more powerful feats with the force. Isn't that how a debate like these are solved, by comparing their feats? Which Revan has not proved as many. I would say the same thing whether he fought Palpatine or not.
Originally posted by Kapton JAC
True, Revan may not have had ALL of them, but do we have a canical resourse to tell which ones he did have? no. It would, however, be logical to assume that he did have a large Majority of them.Either way, even with the basest force powers, as great a strategist as Revan was, he could still beat Starkiller.
And if you assume that Revan had base forcepowers, you have to assume that Starkiller had the weakest level of his force powers, since there is NO cannical basis with which to judge either character's force abilities.
Originally posted by Mizukage YodaSo does the novel > the game or the game > the novel?
^These are the same comics that make Kazdan Paratus a non-factor. Oh, and it contradicts the Game and the Novel. Cutscenes+Novel>Comic.
We never see SK throwing a shield generator at vader, yet in the comic, it is stated he did.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Right, except toppling a skyhook with the force, pwning AT-STs with the Force (Yup its canon, its scripted.) Oh right, and electrocuting a Saarlac with Force Lightning which appeared far more powerful than even Revan's force storm. Ah, and there are alot of canonical bases for Starkillers skill like Starkiller>Vader, Starkiller>Shaak Ti...shall I go on.
I mean we have no clue how powerful Revan was, but do not confuse the two. I believe that the scripted final in the battles hold a great degree of canon. Now obviously the way how he destroyed Tie Fighters, or killed soldiers, or the number of each he destroyed cannot be used for his argument, but he still has a remarkable number of feats. Oh, right, and the only thing we have seen Revan do in canon in terms of Force powers, is use Force Choke. Hopefully the KOTOR comics will change this but until I see canon proof that Revan has this slew of Force powers. Galen Marek>Revan
Let's see here To take down the Skyhook all he did was pull out a few mooring pins.
Surely you remember the parts where he cut an AT-ST in half with one slash of his lightsaber, which are similarly scripted... but, unless he could somehow extend his Lightsaber's blade... That is impossible. Simply a game-play mechanic.
So, The programmers got carried away drawing lightning bolts.
Starkiller > Vader, Starkiller > Shaak Ti.
Revan > Bandon, Revan > Krayt Dragon, Revan > Malak
I still see Revan > Galen Marek
Originally posted by Kapton JAC
Let's see here To take down the Skyhook all he did was pull out a few mooring pins.Surely you remember the parts where he cut an AT-ST in half with one slash of his lightsaber, which are similarly scripted... but, unless he could somehow extend his Lightsaber's blade... That is impossible. Simply a game-play mechanic.
So, The programmers got carried away drawing lightning bolts.
Starkiller > Vader, Starkiller > Shaak Ti.
Revan > Bandon, Revan > Krayt Dragon, Revan > MalakI still see Revan > Galen Marek