Revan Vs Starkiller (at his awesome prime)

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Allow me.

Nope, in the novel Galen beats Vader in swordsmanship (slashing him across the throat and shoulder and stabbing him in the thigh), and then finishes him off by using the Force to lift him into the air and throwing objects at him, concluding with a generator.

So yeah, Galen trashed him. It's awesome. One of my favourite duels ever.

Actually it does, what is portrayed in the game is even more humiliating than what happened in the novel.

And what happened in the comic isn't that embarrasing at all(2 pillars topple on vader).

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Oh right, and electrocuting a Saarlac with Force Lightning which appeared far more powerful than even Revan's force storm.

The only known canonical demonstration of the Revan's Force Storm was in POD. Darth Bane with support from his companions unleashed the technique with full fury, causing wide-scale destruction on the landscape of Russan.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I mean we have no clue how powerful Revan was,

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
but he still has a remarkable number of feats.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Oh, right, and the only thing we have seen Revan do in canon in terms of Force powers, is use Force Choke. Hopefully the KOTOR comics will change this but until I see canon proof that Revan has this slew of Force powers.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Galen Marek>Revan

Please do keep in mind that Revan was a;

-> Master swordsman
-> Master tactician
-> Very strong in the Force
-> Highly experienced and an accomplished Warrior
-> Was very strong physically
-> Knew some devastating dark side powers

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
According to the stats revealed by a source, champions of the force, [b]Darth Revan has been confirmed to be more powerful than even the "Star Forge incarnation of Darth Malak." [/B]

Statistics aren't exactly canon. When you see things like +16 AGI or +8 Force strength, that's not a good comparison to use. Leland Chee has stated that those types of stats are non-canon, but things like the powers they are listed as knowing would be.

Besides that, there isn't much suggesting Revan was a superior Sith. The dark side was stated to have grown stronger under Darth Malak by both Vandar Tokare and Bastila Shan (hence why she couldn't sense the destruction of the Jedi temple on Dantooine), suggesting Malak ended up being more powerful than Darth Revan.

Originally posted by Advent
Statistics aren't exactly canon. When you see things like +16 AGI or +8 Force strength, that's not a good comparison to use. Leland Chee has stated that those types of stats are non-canon, but things like the powers they are listed as knowing would be.

Besides that, there isn't much suggesting Revan was a superior Sith. The dark side was stated to have grown stronger under Darth Malak by both Vandar Tokare and Bastila Shan (hence why she couldn't sense the destruction of the Jedi temple on Dantooine), suggesting Malak ended up being more powerful than Darth Revan.

Regardless of what Leeland Chee said, these stats can provide some useful clues to the fans about what to expect from a certain incarnation of a character.

Since little is known about Revan's capabilities, such information seems to be an encouraging sign. As more and more authors will take interest in defining Revan, it will slowly but surely become apparent that Darth Revan was one of the most powerful Sith Lords in SW Galaxy.

Keep in mind that even in the POD, the author held Darth Revan in a very high esteem, even moreso that Darth Malak. Darth Revan's knowledge made Bane capable enough to destroy his enemies.

Some information concerning Revan revealed by the author, Sterling Hershey is:

Throughout this Jedi Civil War, Darth Revan was the central figure -- first as the enemy commander, but ultimately as the one who defeated Darth Malak and shattered the Sith forces.

And this is absolutely true in the light of the canon.

In the Star Wars Miniatures Game, Darth Revan is a formidable piece, with several unique powers or abilities. In fact, compared with Darth Malak (from the Champions of the Force set), Darth Revan is superior in every category except damage. Triple Attack, Dark Armor, and Lightsaber Duelist alone give Darth Revan a distinct advantage over most opponents. Force Storm may deter some from engaging the character in melee combat, but Force Corruption has the potential to damage an enemy for many rounds after the initial strike.

Beyond combat, Darth Revan's most influential ability is Master Tactician, giving the Sith player considerable control over initiative. When combined with one aspect of Darth Revan's commander effect, a piece may advance across the battle grid or move out of harm's way at the beginning of a round, before an enemy can react. Darth Revan also gives non-Unique followers a considerable bonus to attack when they are within 6 squares.

So what the author generally implied is that Revan was very powerful and a superior combatant in many aspects. He was superior to most fighters known at the time. In the history, very few could contend with him or were better.

Canonically in KOTOR, Darth Malak avoided direct confrontation with Darth Revan ever since he was terribly injured in a Light Saber duel with him. So Malak decided to betray him instead and waited for a perfect opportunity. This does not means that Malak was weak, it shows that how powerful and influential Revan was during his reign as the Dark Lord.

Also, Revan's great defensive abilities make it clear that why Revan was prepared to face the entire "Jedi Strike Team" sent to capture or kill him. He was confident and skilled enough to match them alone even when being out-numbered. Even Malak could handle multiple individuals simultaneously.

Bastilla Shan's inability to sense the destruction of Dantooine is indeed an indication of increase in Malak's power or mind fogging capabilities, but she never implied directly that Darth Malak became more powerful than Darth Revan and neither did Vandar proclaimed such a thing. Infact, when Bastilla turned to the dark side, she even tried to convince Revan to embrace the dark side again because she was confident of Revan's combat prowess and leadership abilities.

You're definitely this forum's official Revan fanboy.

Then by your logic about stats legend, wouldn't exarkun be more powerful than NJO luke and DE sidious when he is canonically not?

Btw i'm still astonishd to your level of revan fanboyism, even i can be that obsessive and fanboyish about sidious and vader anymore.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You're definitely this forum's official Revan fanboy.

So what is wrong with being a fan of Revan? Is it a taboo or something?

I don't like this character because of his powers and skills. Those are the plus points indeed, but I like this character because he his kind of mysterious and complex and due to KOTOR game based story.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Then by your logic about stats legend, wouldn't exarkun be more powerful than NJO luke and DE sidious when he is canonically not?

Stats are based on a certain incarnation of a character during a certain time. The skills and general capabilities of the characters are however taken in to account according to the events that took place in the canonical sources and how the character influenced them.

Example: According to, Champions of the Force, Darth Sidious can take on strike multiple individuals quickly in a duel and he knows Force Lightning, Choke, telepathy etc. These stats have been assigned to him on the basis of what he did during the events of ROTS.

The stats of NJO Luke and DE Sidious have not been revealed as of yet. Apart from that, character combat abilities matter even more. Circumstances and place of combat can also have an impact on the potential encounters.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Btw i'm still astonishd to your level of revan fanboyism, even i can be that obsessive and fanboyish about sidious and vader anymore.

I am also open-minded in case of Star Wars as in any other subject. If you like Vader, than so be it. I like Revan, and it shouldn't concern you.

Now of-course I am not claiming that Revan is invincible but he is damn good. And the general consensus among the Star Wars authors seems to be the same as well.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No it isn't like that.

Stats are based on a certain incarnation of a character during a certain time. The skills and general capabilities of the characters are however taken in to account when defining them according to the events that took place in the canonical sources and how the character influenced them.

The stats of NJO Luke and DE Sidious have not been revealed as of yet. Apart from that, character combat abilities matter even more. Circumstances and place of combat can also have an impact on the potential encounters.

But then again, stats are non canon regardless of what you say.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

So it is OK to bash Revan whenever possible but if one would support him, than person should be accused of fanboyism?

I am also open-minded in case of Star Wars as in any other subject. If you like Vader, than so be it. I like Revan, and it shouldn't concern you.

Now of-course I am not claiming that Revan is invincible but he is damn good. And the general consensus among the Star Wars authors seems to be the same as well.

Btw theres a distinct difference between being a fan and being a fanboy, you are that flawless example of what a revan fanboy is.

When ever someone makes a claim that so and so is technically more skilled than revan(which is fact), your conjure up walls of flawed refutable arguments that are riddled with incredible bias, its just that most of us don't give a shit with debating about fictional characters(cept you of course!), although we still do it for the sake of it, but then again we don't go to extreme levels of fanboyism to voice our opinions ,we(except you) are not taking it extremely seriously.

Not even nebaris, I , gideon or lightsnake would go to that extent anymore(nebaris sometimes does, but at the least his posts are intelligent and can sometimes be very convincing).

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Lots of people are fans of Sidious. Even more are fans of Vader.

So what is wrong with being a fan of Revan? Is it a taboo or something?

I don't like this character because of his powers and skills. Those are the plus points indeed, but I like this character because he his kind of mysterious and complex and due to KOTOR game based story.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
You must have never read the DESB or NJOSB then.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
But then again, stats are non canon regardless of what you say.

And in case of debating the powers of the so-called "virtually unknown characters," they can be useful to use.

But if that is not acceptable too, than why not ban these characters from debates?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
The last i recall, nobody is bashing revan.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Btw theres a distinct difference between being a fan and being a fanboy, you are that flawless example of what a revan fanboy is.

The word "Fan" defines it all. If you are the fan of Vader, you can be termed a Vader fanboy or fangirl etc.

And besides Revan, I have debated for other characters too.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
When ever someone makes a claim that so and so is technically more skilled than revan(which is fact), your conjure up walls of flawed refutable arguments that are riddled with incredible bias, its just that most of us don't give a shit with debating about fictional characters(cept you of course!), although we still do it for the sake of it, but then again we don't go to extreme levels of fanboyism to voice our opinions ,we(except you) are not taking it extremely seriously.

I pointed out to Mizukage Yoda that he cannot:

1. Compare the potency of Revan's Force Storm with the Force Lightning of Galen unless he have a canoncial demonstration of Revan's Force Storm and knows how devastating it was. The only canonical example was provided in the POD novel.

2. Declare automatically that Galen > Revan on the basis of limited knowledge. While Galen may be a threat to him in single combat, it cannot be deduced that Galen > Revan because little is known about the skills of Revan and Mizukage Yoda cannot provide a fair comparison.

& that

3. Revan has been established as to be more powerful than Darth Malak.

4. Revan knows more than Force Choke.

5. Revan's feats suggest that he was an accomplished warrior and is undefeated.

So tell me that where I have exaggerated on Revan?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Not even nebaris, I , gideon or lightsnake would go to that extent anymore(nebaris sometimes does, but at the least his posts are intelligent and can sometimes be very convincing).

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't need to go through those books to know about NJO Luke' and DE Sidious' capabilities. It is already established that these two beings are considered to be the most powerful in the Star Wars saga. I do accept it. So anything else?

They might be non-canon but than again, it depends upon that from which source are those stats coming. Revan's stats have been revealed from the source, The Force Unleashed. I did not pulled them out of my @ss.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

And in case of debating the powers of the so-called "virtually unknown characters," they can be useful to use.

Some people do under-rate him where-ever possible.

There is no major distinction between the two.

The word "Fan" defines it all. If you are the fan of Vader, you can be termed a Vader fanboy or fangirl etc.

And besides Revan, I have debated for other characters too.

And what did I said wrong in this thread?

I pointed out to Mizukage Yoda that he cannot:

1. Compare the potency of Revan's Force Storm with the Force Lightning of Galen unless he have a canoncial demonstration of Revan's Force Storm and knows how devastating it was. The only canonical example was provided in the POD novel.

2. Declare automatically that Galen > Revan on the basis of limited knowledge. While Galen may be a threat to him in single combat, it cannot be deduced that Galen > Revan because little is known about the skills of Revan and Mizukage Yoda cannot provide a fair comparison.

& that

3. Revan has been established as to be more powerful than Darth Malak.

4. Revan knows more than Force Choke.

5. Revan's feats suggest that he was an accomplished warrior and is undefeated.

So tell me that where I have exaggerated on Revan?

I know that how intelligent nebaris is. The point is that you can't get past your biased views regarding Revan and you expect others to follow the same path as well. One reason could be that Galen humiliated Vader and that put you off and you sort of resent it. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't need to go through those books to know about NJO Luke' and DE Sidious' capabilities. It is already established that these two beings are considered to be the most powerful in the Star Wars saga. I do accept it. So anything else?

They might be non-canon but than again, it depends upon that from which source are those stats coming. Revan's stats have been revealed from the source, The Force Unleashed. I did not pulled them out of my @ss.

Then again as usual you derail the topic, i asked you to read those sourcebooks because they show the stats of sidious and njo luke.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

And in case of debating the powers of the so-called "virtually unknown characters," they can be useful to use.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

But if that is not acceptable too, than why not ban these characters from debates?

I seriously don't understand what goes on in your head.

Some people do under-rate him where-ever possible.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

There is no major distinction between the two.

The word "Fan" defines it all. If you are the fan of Vader, you can be termed a Vader fanboy or fangirl etc.

A fan is a fan whereas a fanboy is incredibly biased towards his favourite character and argues with absolutely no logic and intelligence.

Hell even wikipedia disagrees with you :Fanboy is a term originating in the United States, used to describe a male who is highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject or hobby within a given field.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

And besides Revan, I have debated for other characters too.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I pointed out to Mizukage Yoda that he cannot:

1. Compare the potency of Revan's Force Storm with the Force Lightning of Galen unless he have a canoncial demonstration of Revan's Force Storm and knows how devastating it was. The only canonical example was provided in the POD novel.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

2. Declare automatically that Galen > Revan on the basis of limited knowledge. While Galen may be a threat to him in single combat, it cannot be deduced that Galen > Revan because little is known about the skills of Revan and Mizukage Yoda cannot provide a fair comparison.

You must have failed to notice that galen was able to at least apply some force energy on a falling star destroyer, revan has yet to demonstrate TK anywhere even half of that level.

Revan(save for a few force feats) have done almost exactly nothing to even put himself near the levels of galen marek or even vader for that matter.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

3. Revan has been established as to be more powerful than Darth Malak.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

4. Revan knows more than Force Choke.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

5. Revan's feats suggest that he was an accomplished warrior and is undefeated.

Nobody is denying that he is an accomplished warrior, but he is not as "awesome" as you want him to be.
So tell me that where I have exaggerated on Revan?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I know that how intelligent nebaris is. The point is that you can't get past your biased views regarding Revan and you expect others to follow the same path as well. One reason could be that Galen humiliated Vader and that put you off and you sort of resent it.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
If it is non canon it is non applicable to debates, get it through your thick skull.

The "gameplay mechanics" and "stats of the characters" defined in the Star Wars games are actually not canon. The cutscenes, videos, events, and background descriptions regarding characters in the Star Wars games are however c-canon.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Then again as usual you derail the topic, i asked you to read those sourcebooks because they show the stats of sidious and njo luke.

And Kindly spare me the hassle and reveal those stats here yourself along with external links of the sources for close inspection.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
No its not, debating the powers from "virtually unknown characters" is based on established facts and feats, not on non canon stats.

So provide me a valid explanation and a quote from Leeland Chee (preferably) as to how the stats which are coming out from Star Wars books or published materials are also unreliable.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
So because using stats is generally non canon and we cant use it so therefore we must ban those characters?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
I seriously don't understand what goes on in your head.

How can you even debate on the powers of characters which are vitually unknown?

Does it even makes sense to use such characters in vesus threads and than simply declare the more well defined characters as superior?

You need to think rationally.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Yes there is friend.

A fan is a fan whereas a fanboy is incredibly biased towards his favourite character and argues with absolutely no logic and intelligence.

We debate on Star Wars related subjects and put all options on the table. The purpose of the debates is to sort out the issues and solve the mysteries pertaining to the characters or objects involved.

So simply labelling a person a fanboy on the basis of his or her choices is foolishness. If a person wishes to debate only on Vader, than so be it. You can debate on 100 characters if you want to and bullshit about them all, that doesn't makes you any better than the person who debates on few characters.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Hell even wikipedia disagrees with you :Fanboy is a term originating in the United States, used to describe a male who is highly devoted and biased in opinion towards a single subject or hobby within a given field.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Yeah malak and your favourite kotor characters, that again makes you a kotor fanboy.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
And then again the "force storm" required a ritual to execute the technique hence it is not of revans own power but the combined power of other force sensitives in the ritual.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
You must have never played TFU or read the book when galen beat the crap out of vader(who was able to easily restrain a jedi that tore a space station apart), topple ATAT's with relative ease, electrocute the great sarlacc with a massive wave of lightning and nearly fought with sidious on equal footing.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
You must have failed to notice that galen was able to at least apply some force energy on a falling star destroyer, revan has yet to demonstrate TK anywhere even half of that level.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Revan(save for a few force feats) have done almost exactly nothing to even put himself near the levels of galen marek or even vader for that matter.

Revan has defeated some of the accomplished warriors of his time including:

1. Mandalore - The Ultimate (Who could put a Jedi on his @ss with a single blow.)

2. Yusanis (Possibly the greatest Echani duelist with exceptional precognitive capabilities.)

3. Darth Bandon (Killed many Jedi during the Jedi Civil War and was strong enough to challenge Darth Malak for the position of DLOTS.)

4. Bastilla Shan with support from Star Forge (She was more powerful than all but few Jedi Masters by this time and had the support of a Super Weapon to help her in combat situations.)

5. Darth Malak on the Star Forge (He became one of the most powerful force users of his era by that time after he managed to utilize the Star Forge for his goals.)

Apart from this; Revan defeated a large number of Battle Droids, Dark Jedi, Mandalorians, Sith Troopers, and wild beasts, even when the opponents would come in groups.

So even if we don't know much about Revan's powers, it is apparent from his victories that he was a exceptional fighter and would be a fair match for the likes of Vader and Galen.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Soooooooo?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Uh huh? Ok.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
And by being undefeated does that mean that other combatants cannot beat him? Bane? Exar kun? Galen? Vader? Sidious? Luke?

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Nobody is denying that he is an accomplished warrior, but he is not as "awesome" as you want him to be.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
And the funny thing is that i accepted the fact that galen took a crap on vader, whereas you can never accept the fact that here are characters more powerful than your precious revan.

I want Revan's story to be completed so that the fans should know that where does he stands in the over-all context. Thankfully some Star Wars authors are trying to do that job amidst the controversies surrounding the character's gender.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The Campaign Guide books are c-canon. The stats of the characters which are defined in such books automatically become c-canon.

Your the one thats claiming that they can be used, so you go and find the quote that says they are canon and can be used in debates, the burden of proof falls on you hun.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

The "gameplay mechanics" and "stats of the characters" defined in the Star Wars Games are actually not canon. The cutscenes, videos, events, and background descriptions regarding characters in the Star Wars games are however c-canon.

First your saying "The stats of the characters which are defined in such books automatically become c-canon" and now your saying something completely different?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Since when did I derailed this thread? I am debating on skills of Revan, which is an absolutely valid thing to do in this thread.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Kindly spare me the hassle and reveal those stats here yourself along with external links of the sources for close inspection.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

The stats of the Darth Revan have been revealed by a couple of "Star Wars authors." Those stats are based on Darth Revan's abilities prior to the events of KOTOR. They are not game based stats which would be regarded as non-canon and unreliable because in the game the player can define them in any manner as deemed fit.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

So provide me a valid explanation and a quote from Leeland Chee (preferably) as to how the stats which are coming out from a Star Wars book are also unreliable.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Stats define the capabilities of a character in a firm footing. If a character is virtually unknown, than it becomes impossible to debate on the powers and skills of such a character.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
We may know that the character managed to do this and that, but we cannot draw a fair comparison of powers of that character with those of well defined characters. So using the "virtually unknown characters" should be banned from debates until more becomes known about them.

The thing is, "virtually unknown characters" ARE banned from debates, please shut up and actually read the rules of the thread or confirm it with REX yourself.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Dude! I have raised a valid point above..

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

How can you even debate on the powers of characters which are vitually unknown?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Does it even makes sense to use such characters in vesus threads and than simply declare the more well defined characters as superior?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

You need to think rationally.[b]

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
[B]
We do not work for George Lucas. We are all fans of Star Wars and our knowledge of things are not absolutely perfect.

Again, theres a difference between being a fan and being a fanboy, so far the only person that i actually know that is so obsessed and devoted with revan and kotor friends is you.

A fanboy is simply someone that has unbelivable devotion to a single character(think of some one... like S_W_Legend) and goes to extreme measures riddled with bias and stupidity to prove his point.

A fan is someone who simply likes the movies or characters and doesn't get so obsessed with it.

Theres the difference, if your as smart as you say you will actually see this.

Really? You want to know what a fanboy is? Go watch "fanboys".

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

We debate on Star Wars related subjects and put all options on the table. The purpose of the debates is to sort out the issues and solve the mysteries.

I'm not the only one labelling you a revan hard on fanboy, as far as i recall several other members did in the past and lucien did recently.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

So simply labelling a person a fanboy on the basis of his or her choices is foolishness. If a person wishes to debate only on Vader and than so be it. You can debate on 100 characters if you want to and bullshit about them all, that doesn't makes you any better than the person who debates on few characters.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I don't make unnecessary assumptions on Revan. I mostly put the available options on the table regarding Revan from various sources in which he has been featured and defined. So there is a difference.

And you ARE making baseless assumptions, your claiming that he can tool galen marek simply because he did a few feats that weren't on panel hence we don't know the exact circumstances of those feats.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

And what about PT fanboys in this forum? They are more justified in their responses than me?.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I know this but it was instigated in the form or a ritual to augment its power. Several individuals joined hands to unleash the devastating technique with full fury. That doesn't means that Revan cannot churn out huge bolts of Lightning which would hit many individuals simultaneously. He knows the Force Storm! Period!

If it could be unleashed by one person then why is there even a need for it to be involved in a ritual?

But yes, he does know the "force storm" technique which is completely different from the ritual, but then again how powerful is it really? To what extent could it do that such damage? Have we seen it in action? No, its inconclusive.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I know about Galen's feats. He was indeed very powerful and skilled. His powers are well defined and documented. The same is being desired for Revan, if one is draw a fair comparison and conclusion.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Really?

Revan has defeated some of the accomplished warriors of his time including:

1. Mandalore - The Ultimate (Who could put a Jedi on his @ss with a single blow.)

2. Yusanis (Possibly the greatest Echani duelist with exceptional precognitive capabilities.)

3. Darth Bandon (Killed many Jedi during the Jedi Civil War and was strong enough to challenge Darth Malak for the position of DLOTS.)

4. Bastilla Shan with support from Star Forge (She was more powerful than all but few Jedi Masters by this time and had the support of a Super Weapon to help her in combat situations.)

5. Darth Malak on the Star Forge (He became one of the most powerful force users of his era by that time abroad the Star Forge.)

Apart from this; Revan defeated a large number of Battle Droids, Dark Jedi, Mandalorians, Sith Troopers, and wild beasts, even when the opponents would come in groups.

So even if we don't know much about Revan's powers, it is apparent from his victories that he was a exceptional fighter and would be a fair match for the likes of Vader and Galen.

I'm not denying revans combat prowess, but then again the exact circumstances of those fights are completely unknown, we don't know what actually happened during those duels.

We know he is good, but exactly how good is hard to conclude due to what i just mentioned. Please understand that.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

He defeated Darth Malak on the "Star Forge" and it means something.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Few can defeat him and I doubt that Vader is on that list..

And i never said vader would beat him easy.

And plenty of other people can beat him, kyp, luke, exar kun, bane, sidious, caedus, mace, yoda, nihilus.

Thats more than a "few".

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Contrary to your beliefs, most characters who met him consider him to be "awesome" and the list includes: Mandalore Canderous, Jedi Bastilla Shan, Ancient Sith Lord Ajusta Pall, and Jedi Master kriea. Surely, he was something to get such applause.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

I do accept the fact that there are characters more powerful than Revan.

I like how he completely ignored my post.

Aww.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Aww.

Huh?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I like how he completely ignored my post.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Aww.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Huh?