Silver Surfer(exiles) vs. Trinity Superman

Started by darthgoober10 pages

Originally posted by Allankles
Superman does vibrate through, DD's first punch, he stands still and DD's punch passes through him. He's also vibrated his body to turn invisible and "phase" through energy attacks.

Has it ever actually been stated that Supes vibrates his molecules like that as opposed to it being an "after image" effect? I can totally except it if it has, but if we're just going off the a punch apparently passing through someone's body...
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7940/story2page01combatwa4.jpg

Originally posted by kakuzu
My god.....
1) I never said anything about him holding back any power. Superman can't just go Light speed. I'm sure you can't prove he can. Your probably going to post the wrong picture. Here are some Pictures an proof SS would pwn Superman.

Travel’s a just over a light year in seconds(or less)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/...tlet0442nt1.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/...tlet0443pu8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/...tlet0444le1.jpg

Travels half a million light years in seconds
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/...rvol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/...rvol3007nn1.jpg

Another “light years in seconds” feat
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8551/ff41315hc7.jpg

Crosses universe
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/...lavers06vb5.jpg

Can travel to any dimension he’s been to
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/...hor44322zs5.jpg

Dude has surfer fought any a person at light speed? Why debate who light speed travel? Superman can move several times the speed of light like traveling from Rao to Earth or to Oa traversing several galaxies in minutes. He can travel just as fast when the situation demands it, all that is irrelevant to combat speed because these guys don't move at FTL in one on one combat.

Originally posted by Allankles
Dude has surfer fought any a person at light speed? Why debate who light speed travel? Superman can move several times the speed of light like traveling from Rao to Earth or to Oa traversing several galaxies in minutes. He can travel just as fast when the situation demands it, all that is irrelevant to combat speed because these guys don't move at FTL in one on one combat.

Don't tell me this. Tell Galen this. He think everytime Superman does something he does it in light speed format. I clearly stated so many pages ago he doesn't blitz an do light speed. Plus Superman cannot vibrate his molecules.

Originally posted by kakuzu
Don't tell me this. Tell Galen this. He think everytime Superman does something he does it in light speed format. I clearly stated so many pages ago he doesn't blitz an do light speed. Plus Superman cannot vibrate his molecules.

LMAO, u claimed supes couldnt move FTL so i posted a scan proving he could. I then posted a scan proving he uses superspeed in h2h which lead to u posting travel feats from SS for some reason lol. When all i ever asked was to show a scan of SS using superspeed in combat...oh and supes can vibrate so u should learn to read.

Originally posted by Allankles
Dude has surfer fought any a person at light speed? Why debate who light speed travel? Superman can move several times the speed of light like traveling from Rao to Earth or to Oa traversing several galaxies in minutes. He can travel just as fast when the situation demands it, all that is irrelevant to combat speed because these guys don't move at FTL in one on one combat.
Do you have any scans of this INDICATING Superman moving faster than light? I mean not just doing math calculation of distance since Superman has said that he cannot move faster than light under normal conditions. I mean a clear word or anything indicating FTL travel.

I have seen Superman do above light speed stated on panel Twice both he had amped his speed by , flash and in a space vacuum.

Supes does use superspeed in h2h combat but he has never actually fought at light speed. The sacrifice fight is NOT an example of him doing such btw. The during the sacrifice fight, supes was FLYING FORWARD to the sun at light speed but this DOES NOT mean that the attacks(punches etc) that he was throwing at wonderwoman were coming in at light speed themselves. Its just like if two people are running and fighting simultaneously. While the people may be running really fast, there attacks themselves WONT be equal to the speed of there forward movement.

As i said earlier, supes h2h combat speed will only come into play if SS tries to go into a close quarter hand to hand brawl instead of keeping his distance and blasting at high speeds.

Also why is so much emphasis on whether supes can vibrate his molecules? I think he can but it does not help him in this fight as SS can also become intangible anyway.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'll be waiting for the scans of Superman where he's been cut in half before. duryes

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Originally posted by Allankles
Dude has surfer fought any a person at light speed? Why debate who light speed travel? Superman can move several times the speed of light like traveling from Rao to Earth or to Oa traversing several galaxies in minutes. He can travel just as fast when the situation demands it, all that is irrelevant to combat speed because these guys don't move at FTL in one on one combat.

Travel speed surfer is considerably greater than supes. Didnt it take supes like three hours to travel 2.5million light years? In comparison it took surfer only a few seconds to travel 500000 light years. When u do the math, going at that speed it wud still have taken SS a few seconds to traverse the 2.5million light years, well under three hours.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
well superman has resisted transmutation before

Did not know that. Not calling you a liar, but do you have any proof of it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok,let me say my piece. I understand your point. Maybe the board would fail to cut Supes in half just like maybe the bfr would fail to work against Rulk. Here is why I have come to my conclusions as to both threads.

I think that Superman and Gladiator are both top tiers with exactly the same powerset. You wont find two characters more closely related than these two from opposing universes. The board sawed Glads in half easily. I think it would cut through Superman just the same.

Now with regards to Rulk and Superman. I think that a bfr off the planet is possible but it isnt very likely and its much more difficult to accomplish. I saw Supes use a speed blitz to beat his opponents and easily. I dont think he could have quickly bfr'd them off the planet but he did ko them quite easily. Now,I have seen Supes bfr Darkseid off the planet but it took an injured Seid and time for Supes to do it. If Darkseid hadnt been injured I think he would have reacted and stopped the whole process.

Both of these events can happen but I see the Surfer feat happening and being more likely to happen while I dont see the bfring off the planet as being as likely to occur.

Funny thing though, Glads power depends on his confidence. His just got wiped out when SS caught his fist. Think about it.

Originally posted by kgkg
Do you have any scans of this INDICATING Superman moving faster than light? I mean not just doing math calculation of distance since Superman has said that he cannot move faster than light under normal conditions. I mean a clear word or anything indicating FTL travel.

I have seen Superman do above light speed stated on panel Twice both he had amped his speed by , flash and in a space vacuum.

Superman referred to a Zeta beam, which is far, far faster than standard light. He wasn't outracing that under normal circumstances.

Originally posted by Badabing
You can't show so much hypocrisy and such a double standard Quan. I hope I don't see any more in the near future.

crylaugh

Lulz.

Originally posted by darthgoober
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😖hifty:

ha ha owned.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
ha ha owned.

To be fair, I have no idea of the context behind that scan, I just happened to stumble upon it in Supes's respect thread a while back and remembered it when I saw Bada's statement.

Originally posted by Allankles
The problem with this is that the[B]ir similarities end with their power set, thats it, they don't even have the same magnitude of power. It's like saying all of Galactus heralds are the same, some were gifted with more of the power cosmic than others.

Further Glads doesn't necessarily have kryptonian durability. Does Glad have a Bio aura? No. Does he have the same sub atomic density? No. Are his powers derived from an inter dimensional source via the general absorption of solar radiation (yellow sun and all)? No. So apart from having similar powers, they are actually nothing alike, completely different genetic make up. [/B]

They are basically the same but arent exactly the same. Glads at his best is faster than Supes and unlike the man of steel he has destroyed a planet on panel with his fists. I have seen Glads fly at 100 times the speed of light while Prime left Superman in the dust when he took off at the speed of light in infinite crisis. I said they both had roughly the same powerset and never said the same genetic makeup.

Do you even read my whole post?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
The other issue is we don't know how this Glads stacks up agaisnt the 616 Glad's who's top feats are trans level. I believe it was actually stated in a comic that Glads can travel 100 times FTL, he has destroyed a planet in 3 blows and can even move a planet. I guess the question is did Glad come at SS 100 times FTL with planet wrecking punching power thats physical strength is enough to move a planet?
What does moving a planet have to do with beating someone up? Are you telling me Superman pushing something hurts more than punching something? 😐

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Actually Supes has virbated his moecules, and if u dont believe me check his fight with DD. He literally vibrated through his punches as proven here http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg and here is him using his MA in superspeed http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trinity13p06zw7.jpg

The scarfice fight is the one in which Supes fought from the earth back to the sun in less then 2 mintues, note that he was actually fighting and not just simply fighting.

That is your interpretation which is fine and dandy. But dont try to pass it off like its a fact when I havent seen anyone agree with it, as of yet.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
What the hell are guys even talking about, forum rules stipulate full capcity rules meaning each character is in peak condition. Theres an actual fight of Supes vs WW in sacrfice that has them fighting from the sun to the earth in less then 2 mintues...i mean its right there if u dont believe me.
How do you know its less than two minutes?

Originally posted by kakuzu
1)You post a scan of Superman blitzing and say he moved his molecules.

2)You post a scan of Superman throwing people off and using superbreath and you say he is vibrating molecules.

Basically you aren't making any sense. Your making up things are you go. Can you even lay down one point right now?

Also by the way you say the feats I posted are useless, yet they seem to be more right then yours. Then again which feats have you actually posted?

Agreed.

Originally posted by Allankles
Dude has surfer fought any a person at light speed? Why debate who light speed travel? Superman can move several times the speed of light like traveling from Rao to Earth or to Oa traversing several galaxies in minutes. He can travel just as fast when the situation demands it, all that is irrelevant to combat speed because these guys don't move at FTL in one on one combat.
When has Superman fought anyone at light speed?
Originally posted by Philosophía
crylaugh

Lulz.

Are you having fun?

Originally posted by Avlon
Superman referred to a Zeta beam, which is far, far faster than standard light. He wasn't outracing that under normal circumstances.
Do you have the issue number for this?

What you think of the new Atlas beating? 🙁

Originally posted by kgkg
Do you have the issue number for this?

What you think of the new Atlas beating? 🙁

Not at work. I'll see if I can scan it once I'm home though. If you remember the story though, it's a Zeta beam he had to race against.

The Atlas beating was cool. I'm curious to see how that arc ends.

Originally posted by Avlon
Not at work. I'll see if I can scan it once I'm home though. If you remember the story though, it's a Zeta beam he had to race against.

The Atlas beating was cool. I'm curious to see how that arc ends.

ohh your talking about the JLA 21 v3 I posted scans of that he did go faster than light but flash lend this speed have posted the scan somewhere.

An still trying to find some concrete evidence of Superman's top speed if you know any.

is this the one?