Originally posted by Devil King
Ha, dumbass.
Even if said insult were true, I'd still be more intelligent than you, seeing as I did not have to result in name calling. I'm not saying I have anything against homosexuals or the like, that's their choice, but I simply mean that men are meant to truly be with women, and Alpha Centauri pretty much explained what I was trying to. So, please, try to do more than insult people, mmkay?
Originally posted by Markus Corvinus
Even if said insult were true, I'd still be more intelligent than you, seeing as I did not have to result in name calling. I'm not saying I have anything against homosexuals or the like, that's their choice, but I simply mean that men are meant to truly be with women, and Alpha Centauri pretty much explained what I was trying to. So, please, try to do more than insult people, mmkay?
dumbass
Originally posted by Robtard
Then please be the first to only and I mean ONLY have sex with a woman when she's ovulating and you have every intention of impregnating her. In fact, have your sperm-count tested; if you happen to be sterile or have a critically low sperm count, do the right (as opposed to wrong) thing and live a life of celibacy.AIGHT.
I am not sterile and I am trying to be celibant until the right girl comes along. I see no need in rushing to have sex just because everyone else does.
I, like I assume AC, would prefer if there was no government involvement in marriage at all. I don't see the point, it's just silly and also favouring one group of society. But if people want to express their "love" in such a way as to call themselves married and have a big party, etc...I can understand that. Parties are cool...and everyone likes to feel special.
Originally posted by Bardock42Why should you care what other people think, especially when people's opinions change all the time?
How is social acceptance a stupid reason?
Originally posted by inimalistWoah, I'm not attacking people who wanna get married and demand they tell me why, I just don't understand the relevance or purpose for it.
because that is what they want?why do people need to justify their desires?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIt's not as if I'll preech in the streets and request legislation outlawing marriage, I just don't want it happening, as it's not a good thing.
I think marriage is stupid and illogical, but it doesn't hurt me if people wanna do it, why not let them?-AC
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
God create humans.
God DID create humans. God also created some that have genetic predispositions to homosexuality. So it's humanity's fault, not God's, for homosexuals that have a genetic origin? It's un uphill battle. God is much smarter than you give Him credit for. If you think homosexuality is evil, isn't the existence of evil a good thing? Don't we need "evils" to become better? If everything was perfect and hunky dory, how is this life a "test" to become better?
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Humans create homosexuality. And anything man-made is unnatural. Synthetic.
Anything a human creates is just as unnatural as bee hives, nests, special insect salivas, etc. Why is there a major psychological difference between what man creates and other species create? All of us are creations of God, so there really isn't anything unnatural. You can argue synthetics, but it's not unnatural.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And marriages and civil unions are the same thing like basketball and football are the same thing. Both require points to win, both are competitive and even have teams with their own proper uniforms. But you can't have 'em on the same ground. Football's football and basketballs' basketball. That's just the way it's is and has been traditionally. When a man and a woman take the plunge together specifically, religiously, traditionally, etc., we've called it a marriage because the joining is between a man and a woman in holy matrimony.
You analogy fails, slightly. It would be more like...
Marriage, regardless of the type, is the same thing as a sports game. But you have different types of games like basketball, football, hockey, etc. Homosexual marriage is just a type of marriage.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That's how marriages and civil unions are and should be different. Not that civil unions are low, it's just the marriage ritual always said that choosing to marry means it going to occur with a man and woman. And nothing else. Any and everything and anyone else can and should feel free to create their own version of a sacred ritual with their own ways and rules that involves coming together to create any sort of formal bond, just like marriage did thousands of years ago.
Ahhhh. I see.
You think marriage is solely a theistic act? Not so. Though marriage is largely a theistic institution, it's also a secular one. Leave your religious beliefs at the door. Inside your religion, you are free to dictate to your members your own beliefs of right and wrong up to an including excommunication. Outside of that, you have no right to oppress the freedoms of those around you. No matter how much butt lovins goes on between two married men, or how much carpet munchin' goes on between two married women, it in no way affects you. If they were part of your religion, and you had a position of authority, you could take whatever actions your faith had that does not violate criminal or civil law. If they get caught in a park doing the deed, they should get into just as much trouble as a heterosexual couple. I don't want my children seeing stuff like that, regardless of the participants.
Again, you have no right to enforce your religious beliefs on other people. That is in stark contrast to the foundational ideas of the architects of this nation.
Originally posted by dadudemon
God DID create humans. God also created some that have genetic predispositions to homosexuality. So it's humanity's fault, not God's, for homosexuals that have a genetic origin? It's un uphill battle. God is much smarter than you give Him credit for. If you think homosexuality is evil, isn't the existence of evil a good thing? Don't we need "evils" to become better? If everything was perfect and hunky dory, how is this life a "test" to become better?Anything a human creates is just as unnatural as bee hives, nests, special insect salivas, etc. Why is there a major psychological difference between what man creates and other species create? All of us are creations of God, so there really isn't anything unnatural. You can argue synthetics, but it's not unnatural.
You analogy fails, slightly. It would be more like...
Marriage, regardless of the type, is the same thing as a sports game. But you have different types of games like basketball, football, hockey, etc. Homosexual marriage is just a type of marriage.
Ahhhh. I see.
You think marriage is solely a theistic act? Not so. Though marriage is largely a theistic institution, it's also a secular one. Leave your religious beliefs at the door. Inside your religion, you are free to dictate to your members your own beliefs of right and wrong up to an including excommunication. Outside of that, you have no right to oppress the freedoms of those around you. No matter how much butt lovins goes on between two married men, or how much carpet munchin' goes on between two married women, it in no way affects you. If they were part of your religion, and you had a position of authority, you could take whatever actions your faith had that does not violate criminal or civil law. If they get caught in a park doing the deed, they should get into just as much trouble as a heterosexual couple. I don't want my children seeing stuff like that, regardless of the participants.
Again, you have no right to enforce your religious beliefs on other people. That is in stark contrast to the foundational ideas of the architects of this nation.
Technically you can't prove Homosexuality is genetic..., but then again Can't prove there is a God either. I guess it is just blind faith on both counts.
Also most marriages are religion based in America. About 75% of marriages take place in a church. Although the Divorce doesn't lol.
And to answer Lord XYZ....it's all about the code of honor. If Fred knocks up Susie....He is honor bound! That and the shotgun...
Originally posted by Bardock42F-for not getting married?
C-cause they might stone you?
W-where?
Originally posted by PezmergaYou have a very weird society.
Technically you can't prove Homosexuality is genetic..., but then again Can't prove there is a God either. I guess it is just blind faith on both counts.Also most marriages are religion based in America. About 75% of marriages take place in a church. Although the Divorce doesn't lol.
And to answer Lord XYZ....it's all about the code of honor. If Fred knocks up Susie....He is honor bound! That and the shotgun...
Originally posted by lord xyzI could ask you the same thing. As you replied to someone else, and it's apparent that he was talking about social acceptance in general and how gay marriage helps with that, so, maybe, before trying to "pwn" me, read what has been going on and, for once, don't look like a giant fool.
In terms of marriage.Are you that retarded to not see that?