Originally posted by Red Hulk
I don't see what a Superman who was powered up by being right beside a sun (previous to that) has to do with regular Superman. I mean, Surfer destroyed a solar system plus when he was powered up, and no one brings up that.
Bring it up with the guys who wanted to see this scan.
All I showed is that Supes has some fine control over his HV.
Originally posted by Ambient
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5960/annihilationsilversurfekp8.jpgThanos ---- " It is a singularity-- blackhole-- brought about by Surfer's energy discharge."
Energy discharge = Energy blast.. Surfer's energy blast cause a singularity blackhole, similar to a massive sun going supernova which then undergoes into a singularity blackhole... So this energy discharge (blast) equals the strength of a supernova, the "Effect or catalyst" you are referring to.. 😉
Not likely as once again surfer has use use/discharge power in order for any kind of effect to happen. No blast was shown or ever mentioned...and again..in the very next issue...blasts weren't doing much.
Artificial Black holes have been created on tabletops btw.
Scientists Create Artificial Black Hole in LabSaturday, March 08, 2008
By Charles Q. Choi
The mysterious properties of black holes can be recreated on a tabletop, scientists now reveal.
Oblivion (a figment of Kyle Rayners imagination) caused an event far greater than a black hole... it doesn't mean that Kyle can blast more powerful that Surfer and Supes.
Oh...and Thanos has never blasted open a black hole...guess that means SS must be more powerful than him. LOL
Originally posted by Avlon
Not likely as once again surfer has use use/discharge power in order for any kind of effect to happen. No blast was shown or ever mentioned...and again..in the very next issue...blasts weren't doing much.Artificial Black holes have been created on tabletops btw.
Oblivion (a figment of Kyle Rayners imagination) caused an event far greater than a black hole... it doesn't mean that Kyle can blast more powerful that Surfer and Supes.
Oh...and Thanos has never blasted open a black hole...guess that means SS must be more powerful than him. LOL
Again it was brought about as a direct result of the huge amount of energy surfer discharged. This is obvious from thanos statement. Not some form of mater manipulation.
And actually only SOME aspects of blackholes have been mimiced by scientist on a far far smaller scale. What even did oblivion cause? Did he cause it as an after effect of his energy discharge?
And Thanos has feats much higher than creating a blackhole anyways.( Dropping galactus)
Originally posted by Doctor-Alviswell superman's Blast have been modified to exploit weaknesses too. He's used his whisle to cancel psionics. He's used his breath to chill opponents and cause gale force winds. He's used his heat vision to Pwn Parademons.
I would say Surfer's blast is more powerful as it can be modified to exploit weaknesses.
Originally posted by kgkg
SS has destroyed Planet without trying if someone can show similar feat by Superman than we can try to compare what's more powerful.Heat Vision does have good feat but nothing that would come to the power output SS puts up.
Superman does most of his damage h2h
Originally posted by fangirl101
well superman's Blast have been modified to exploit weaknesses too. He's used his whisle to cancel psionics. He's used his breath to chill opponents and cause gale force winds. He's used his heat vision to Pwn Parademons.
Not that this is even relevant but him using how is him using his breathe to freeze things and blow things away modifying his blasts to exploit weakness?
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Not that this is even relevant but him using how is him using his breathe to freeze things and blow things away modifying his blasts to exploit weakness?
Originally posted by bbrem123
this is ridiculous obviously surfers blasts r more powerful then supes HV...not say supermans HV isnt powerful cuz it is but it just doesnt compare to what SS can dosay supermans HV is more powerful just means ur a fanboy and nothing more
Originally posted by fangirl101
It's like when people say surfer is as strong as Superman. And that he can amp past Superman's strength. And that Surfer fights at sueprman levels of speed. That is ridiculous. To say such things just means ur a fanboy and nothing more. 😕
feat wise super has far greater strength, but it know by everybody that surfer can increase his strength to levels unknown making it impossible to every really know who is stronger
and speed wise surfer has show comparable combat speed shown when he attacked nova
but this is not the topic we r on so it is irrelevant...supes HV has never been show or said to be as powerful surfer blasts...if u can find sufficient evidence that shows comparable feat then maybe u have an argument
Originally posted by bbrem123
feat wise super has far greater strength, but it know by everybody that surfer can increase his strength to levels unknown making it impossible to every really know who is strongerand speed wise surfer has show comparable combat speed shown when he attacked nova
but this is not the topic we r on so it is irrelevant...supes HV has never been show or said to be as powerful surfer blasts...if u can find sufficient evidence that shows comparable feat then maybe u have an argument
Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't have an argument. cuz I dont' care. I just said that Superman's heat vision had powered warworld before. It has also matched the Omega beams. ( Not the force of effect). And it's on shotted Despero.
one a skyfather, the other a trans leveler.
if u dont care then y r u in this thread?
Originally posted by bbrem123
if u dont care then y r u in this thread?
Originally posted by The Great GalenSuperman cant destroy solar systems. I havent even seen him destroy a planet. Seriously,Surfer is a lot more powerful. The ignorance in this thread and the excuses are laughable.
SS has better depictions of energy porjectibility due to the nature of his character, however it's already been confirmed that Supes HV potency is beyond current scientific caculations:http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg
It's a underestimated and frequently underatted power, but just like with SS's strength that is shown to rival savage hulk's power even inspite of underwhealming strength feats to suggest otherwise...it just isn't in Supes character to "destroy star systems".
Superman is powerful but not as powerful as Surfer. Thats it. Unless anyone has any scans to say otherwise.
😆 I could not stop laughing looking at the thread title. Surfer creams Superman in this category. Since someone brought up Superman's combat speed. Surfer is far from slow in terms of combat speed but what good is combat speed going to do you when you have a being flying on his board who is must faster than you firing energy blasts that connect.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Just to see the ridiculous arguments being presented on either side. people using surfer's cosmic effects as part of his blast power. Or People using Superman's control over his HV as part of the potency of his blast power. Neither are good gauges.
Nobody is using any" cosmic" effects to judge surfers blast power.
