Surfer's energy blasts vs Superman's Heat vision

Originally posted by bbrem123
feat wise super has far greater strength, but it know by everybody that surfer can increase his strength to levels unknown making it impossible to every really know who is stronger

and speed wise surfer has show comparable combat speed shown when he attacked nova

but this is not the topic we r on so it is irrelevant...supes HV has never been show or said to be as powerful surfer blasts...if u can find sufficient evidence that shows comparable feat then maybe u have an argument

Well first off SS doesn't have combat speed even comparable to Supes, all he did was grab Nova by the throat at his speeds...on his board lol. Secondly did you just say"Supes HV has never been shown or said to be as poweful as Sufers blast"...would you really expect a rival company to make mention of something like that lol.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned
Superman's HV overpowering Darksied's Omega Beams

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman cant destroy solar systems. I havent even seen him destroy a planet. Seriously,Surfer is a lot more powerful. The ignorance in this thread and the excuses are laughable.

Superman is powerful but not as powerful as Surfer. Thats it. Unless anyone has any scans to say otherwise.

Thanos has never destroyed a planet or solar system either, in fact I dont even remember someone like RKT wrecking a planet if im not mistaken. You're attempt of downplaying his power is what's laughable, I never doubt SS has more feats with his energy blast but like I said before it isnt in Supes character to destroy planets.

We will never get a scan of Supes destroying a planet...even though we have examples of how physically potent his strikes are or even how hot is HV is, and you know why...it isnt in hic character.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
I'm surprised no one has mentioned
Superman's HV overpowering Darksied's Omega Beams

Or even matching Orion's astrol force...oh and Orion did say his blast could slice through planets. Wish I had the scans were it was stated but I remember him mentioning it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Or even matching Orion's astrol force...oh and Orion did say his blast could slice through planets. Wish I had the scans were it was stated but I remember him mentioning it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Thanos has never destroyed a planet or solar system either, in fact I dont even remember someone like RKT wrecking a planet if im not mistaken. You're attempt of downplaying his power is what's laughable, I never doubt SS has more feats with his energy blast but like I said before it isnt in Supes character to destroy planets.

We will never get a scan of Supes destroying a planet...even though we have examples of how physically potent his strikes are or even how hot is HV is, and you know why...it isnt in hic character.

Supes has never defeated the Surfer or someone comparable as easily as Thanos has pwned the Surfer though.

Supes cant destroy a solar system under his own power. If you disagree tell me why.

Supes can destroy a planet imo but we dont know how quickly or how many strikes it would take.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he did.

Supes has never defeated the Surfer or someone comparable as easily as Thanos has pwned the Surfer though.

Supes cant destroy a solar system under his own power. If you disagree tell me why.

Supes can destroy a planet imo but we dont know how quickly or how many strikes it would take.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He has matched Orion who can destroy more than a solar system.

Yea when he caught Nova it was his reactionary reflexes in question, not his combat speed. Surfer as well as all of Galactus' creations have shown that they can dodge, or catch just about anything because of their cosmic awareness.

If these 2 fought, H2H I have no doubt at all that Surfer would be able to catch Supes like he caught Nova, even if he (Spuperman) were to be moving at light speeds combat or otherwise.

As for this thread, I'm pretty sure it would be close as both of these guys harness cosmic energy, and can use it like a vehichle uses gas, I gusee it would depend on who is more efficient at harnessing it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yea when he caught Nova it was his reactionary reflexes in question, not his combat speed. Surfer as well as all of Galactus' creations have shown that they can dodge, or catch just about anything because of their cosmic awareness.

If these 2 fought, H2H I have no doubt at all that Surfer would be able to catch Supes like he caught Nova, even if he (Spuperman) were to be moving at light speeds combat or otherwise.

As for this thread, I'm pretty sure it would be close as both of these guys harness cosmic energy, and can use it like a vehichle uses gas, I gusee it would depend on who is more efficient at harnessing it.

Nah, Supes has far quicker combat speed reflex and movement. SS couldnt even sucker punch Thanos when he tried. Anyhow like I said ther projectiles can go either way, its more difficult with Supes since we have never seen the upper limits of his HV.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Nah, Supes has far quicker combat speed reflex and movement. SS couldnt even sucker punch Thanos when he tried. Anyhow like I said ther projectiles can go either way, its more difficult with Supes since we have never seen the upper limits of his HV.

I said already, SS has more impressive showings since he actually bothers to use his energy projectiles unlike Supes.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS has better depictions of energy porjectibility due to the nature of his character, however it's already been confirmed that Supes HV potency is beyond current scientific caculations:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg

For one, that's Earth science. Much less advanced than, say, New God science. Secondly, she compares it with a standard industrial laser...

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Nah, Supes has far quicker combat speed reflex and movement. SS couldnt even sucker punch Thanos when he tried.

...Are you referring to the time that Thanos had the full Infinity Gauntlet, and thus essentially infinite strength and speed?

Originally posted by Enyalus
For one, that's Earth science. Much less advanced than, say, New God science. Secondly, she compares it with a standard industrial laser...

...Are you referring to the time that Thanos had the full Infinity Gauntlet, and thus essentially infinite strength and speed?

There are ridiculously advanced dc scientists on earth and even the piss poor in comparison ones we have on our earth can easily measure into the billions of degrees,and she compares it to a laser to give people a reference.....it has nothing to do with power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I thought Thanos had cut himself off from everything but infinite power. Um yeah. Right.

If I recall correctly, he cuts himself off from omniscience. He's still wielding the full power of the gauntlet.

If I'm wrong, though, please correct me. Been a while since I read the arc.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If I recall correctly, he cuts himself off from omniscience. He's still wielding the full power of the gauntlet.

If I'm wrong, though, please correct me. Been a while since I read the arc.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He cut himself off from the sensory imput of every gem and only used the power gem to amp his own abilities.

I remember the sensory imput part. I don't recall the last bit, about the power gem. But no difference, as the power gem allows him to replicate virtually any physical feat...including superspeed.

And SS was traveling at multiple times lightspeed when blitzing him, so I don't even understand what Galen was attempting to argue - unless it was that Thanos has FTL reflexes. In which case, I'd agree simply to give Thanos an even bigger edge in the Henshaw vs. Thanos thread. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
I remember the sensory imput part. I don't recall the last bit, about the power gem. But no difference, as the power gem allows him to replicate virtually any physical feat...including superspeed.

And SS was traveling at multiple times lightspeed when blitzing him, so I don't even understand what Galen was attempting to argue - unless it was that Thanos has FTL reflexes. In which case, I'd agree simply to give Thanos an even bigger edge in the Henshaw vs. Thanos thread. 😛

Originally posted by fangirl101
no. The space gem and the time gems would allow him speed. as speed is movement in a direction with in a certain amount time.

The Power gem 'contains access to all power and energy that ever has or will exist,' as well as replicating nearly any superhuman ability and granting himself invulnerability. You're going to tell me he can't give himself super speed?

The Space Gem has nothing to do with speed. The Runner wasn't fast because he had the Space Gem. When he used it, he was teleporting to where he wanted to go faster than he thought of the location. When he's blitzing Thanos, for instance - it's all him.