Surfer's energy blasts vs Superman's Heat vision

Originally posted by Ambient
Fore the scan i posted in earlier post..

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9429/annihilationsilversurfeiv2.jpg

He killed Gabriel then discharge a time delayed energy bomb..
Fyi. No lifeforce no pc...

Really? Where did you get no pc from?

Originally posted by Ambient
Blast scan --- check
Somethin comin out of his hand --- check

Check and mate. --- nah try again...

This was my reply from your post (below)..[B]\/ \/ \/

Destroying a planet on panel isn't much??? [/B]

Don't know what you are talking about.

Might be the case for all GL but not pc.. This is however a diff. topic i care not to dwell right now..

Originally posted by Ambient
Oblivion willed timespace/reality to make such effect... No energy discharge/blast ever mentioned, it just appeared in space.. totally unlike how Surfer created the blackhole effect through the strength of his blast in "effect" a blackhole was created.. There was no mention of Surfer manipulating time and space like say Oblivion's feat but cept a mention of an energy discharge back by a panel showing a big blast of it..

There also wasn't a mention of a blast.

Originally posted by Ambient
There was no mention of SS >>>> Thanos in here thread cept by you..

So clapping your logic is 👆 ..... 😱

err..ok

Originally posted by Ambient
Its exactly what I'm saying unlike Avy interpretation of it, more into matter manipulation even dough there was no mention of anything close to it... : 😐

There is nothing showing your interpretation either although I see you looking hard for it. Again, the next issue...blasts aren't doing much.

Originally posted by Avlon
Really? Where did you get no pc from?

Originally posted by Avlon
Don't know what you are talking about.

You ask for an energy coming out of Surfer hand.. \/ \/ --- check

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9429/annihilationsilversurfeiv2.jpg

You ask for an energy blast.. \/ \/ --- check

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5159/annihilationsilversurfeay7.jpg

That panel should speak for itself.. If that's not a blast of energy then what would you call it?

Originally posted by Avlon
Surfers creation of black holes have more to do with the effects of the power cosmic (as a catalyst) than the strength of his blasts.

I hardly think Surfer is in a level where he just discharge a subtle amount of energy to bend spacetime/reality and poof a blackhole..

Originally posted by Avlon
There also wasn't a mention of a blast.

like say the scan.. \/ \/ below

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aos6201617hs6.jpg

Heat vision?? There is no mention of an energy blast anywhere in there... Kinda like the scan i posted..

Heat vision ----- Energy discharge (depicted in drawing and in Thanos word) are both energy blast..

There is nothing showing your interpretation either although I see you looking hard for it. Again, the next issue...blasts aren't doing much.

Nah my interpretation supports the depiction shown on panel.. I don't think Surfer is on a level where a subtle discharge of energy bends spacetime/reality and poof comes a blackhole, there needs to be some kind of physical reaction for him to make blackhole feat.. But if you think he is then --- hey, your a much bigger fan of him than i am.. 😛

next issue blast \/ \/ did that...

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4227/annihilationsilversurfegj7.jpg

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Can I get a scan?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this really necessary?
Teleportation

Shield
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1909/fight86yk9.jpg

Originally posted by vansonbee
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9577/other31vd3.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1228/other32rk6.jpg

Shield
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1909/fight86yk9.jpg

Originally posted by vansonbee
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9577/other31vd3.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1228/other32rk6.jpg

Shield
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1909/fight86yk9.jpg

There are other scans though where he accesses shields.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this really necessary?

Originally posted by vansonbee
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9577/other31vd3.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1228/other32rk6.jpg

Shield
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1909/fight86yk9.jpg

Why post scans of his shields? I know he can create them without tech...
And yes, I was wrong earlier, I forgot that his ship was destroyed when he fought Galactus. So... only teleportation is in question from me anyway...

I'd be more than happy for one of you to prove me wrong though.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
I haven't seen it, you said he can... so yes?

I don't see any mention of him doing it under his own power, and even if he did, his powers from the old days are completely forgotten it seems (as he I haven't seen him teleport without tech nowadays, or can't remember it happening from those days as well).

Why post scans of his shields? I know he can create them without tech...
And yes, I was wrong earlier, I forgot that his ship was destroyed when he fought Galactus. So... only teleportation is in question from me anyway...

I'd be more than happy for one of you to prove me wrong though.

Bump.

mmm

Oh and HV wins.

Superman's heat vision, handily.

Energy Blasts win.

Surfer blast.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bump.

mmm

Oh and HV wins.

Originally posted by emu
You forgot the I 🙂

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Energy Blasts win.

HV can vaporize dozens of class 100 characters.

Before you say clones, Doomsday Rex and Gog Wars Doomsday were the clones as well and both were clear class 100 characters.

Didn't Wonder Woman kill a few of those?

There's such a thing as imperfect clones (Less powerful, less durable, dumber, smarter..)

Originally posted by cdtm
Didn't Wonder Woman kill a few of those?

There's such a thing as imperfect clones (Less powerful, less durable, dumber, smarter..)

He killed Doomsday again with HV in Doomed BTW.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132594/3819984-7250530747-14184.jpg

Superman's heat vision is far more powerful than Silver Surfer's blasts against a real opponent. Superman can one-shot kill herald-level foes with his attack; Surfer generally can not.

Originally posted by Magnon
Superman's heat vision is [B]far more powerful than Silver Surfer's blasts against a real opponent. Superman can one-shot kill herald-level foes with his attack; Surfer generally can not. [/B]

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