The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Heart>>presence. feats,son.
the 'presence'/'god' devoured the entire host of heaven, on panel [even michael himself]. he also owned spectre with the utmost of ease:

of course i expect some type of idiotic response about how the above 'feat' still doesn't make the presence >/= the heart, so i don't even know why i typed this response. umm

Originally posted by fangirl101

Twist it all you want.


Still nothing, the usual, and when I address all your points,
I expect nothing more than intransigence to return.

Observe. 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101

If the Power was truly the one above all's
then the LT would have stopped the egyptian guy who was tapping into it.

He is all knowing isn't he?


The Celestial Order and Akhenaten didn't do, what Thanos did.

Please read the comic, then come back.

Originally posted by fangirl101

If the power was the one above all's,
the LT would have sealed it off, destroyed the universe it existed in,
or cut it off like he did korvak's universe.


Right, cause as only YOU know, the LT is above TOAA's power,
so I'm sure the LT is capable of doing to THOTI, what he did to Korvac. 😆

Goodness, sometimes I think you're just getting high and enjoying these circles.

Originally posted by fangirl101

If it were the one above all's power,
then he would NOT have challenged thanos. He would have known better.


Wrong.

The LT did know better,
that's why he brought the ENTIRE prime Marvel Universe to back him up,
yea, the LT actually thought he had a chance with all that back up,
LT was wrong.

LT is all knowing, but when it comes to TOAA's power, that's another ball game.

Originally posted by fangirl101

And No panel does it say Thanos had THE ONE ABOVE ALL"S POWER.
NO where. In no hand book. In nothing.
Which is clearly who the LT references as his boss.

(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - LT - bio)

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

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Logic dictates that ONLY TOAA or a power = to or superior, could defeat the LT:

LT gets stomped by a power superior to his own.

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We know Thanos has "someone's" power,
there's no denying that, I'm sure you'll agree.

And if according to Marvel,
the ONLY power above the Living Tribunal's is TOAA's,
who's power do you believe Thanos has?

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Are you done? ... cause your one track mind is becoming redundant.

Originally posted by Galan007
the 'presence'/'god' devoured the entire host of heaven, on panel [even michael himself]. he also owned spectre with the utmost of ease:

of course i expect some type of idiotic response about how the above 'feat' still doesn't make the presence >/= the heart, so i don't even know why i typed this response. umm


It's interesting to note that his talk with the Spectre is very similiar to "grant avatar's" talk with animal man. If you compare the two, they have striking resemblence. Could the presence and the grant avatar be the same?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Still nothing, the usual, and when I address all your points,
I expect nothing more than intransigence to return.

Observe. 🙂

The Celestial Order and Akhenaten didn't do, what Thanos did.

Please read the comic, then come back.

Right, cause as only YOU know, the LT is above TOAA's power,
so I'm sure the LT is capable of doing to THOTI, what he did to Korvac. 😆

Goodness, sometimes I think you're just getting high and enjoying these circles.

Wrong.

The LT did know better,
that's why he brought the ENTIRE prime Marvel Universe to back him up,
yea, the LT actually thought he had a chance with all that back up,
LT was wrong.

LT is all knowing, but when it comes to TOAA's power, that's another ball game.

(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - LT - bio)

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

......................................................................................

Logic dictates that ONLY TOAA or a power = to or superior, could defeat the LT:

LT gets stomped by a power superior to his own.

......................................................................................

We [B]know Thanos has "someone's" power,
there's no denying that, I'm sure you'll agree.

And if according to Marvel,
the ONLY power above the Living Tribunal's is TOAA's,
who's power do you believe Thanos has?

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Are you done? ... cause the spanking is getting redundant. [/B]


There are other powers over the LT's. Proteus. The Celestial Scathan. Some amulet that LT uses to amp himself. Blah blah. I don't agree with you. I never will. You don't agree with me. never will. So why keep going in circles? You do an excellent job of presenting your opinion.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The One above all is the Lt's boss. The Supreme BEING of the marvel verse.


Exactly what Thanos became with his their (TOAA) power.
Originally posted by fangirl101

The second any thing is mentioned or drawn then that becomes a comic book character.
Especially when it's got a trademarked name to it.


TOAA is a Marvel character that creates Supreme beings with the stroke of a pencil.

When are ya gonna understand,
that EVERYTHING in the Marvel Omniverse is nothing but drawings on paper to TOAA.

(an artist that toils with his drawings ... just like in the real world)

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"Meeting the Maker!"

(excerpt from the FF Ultimate Guide)

Let's see if this official information source from Marvel comics,
is stating what took place On Panel:

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++++ On Panel verification +++

1.

"The FF were amazed to find out,
he sketched out Reality in the same way as a comic-book artist:
"

2.

"Redrawing Ben so that he once agan resembled the Thing:"

3.

"God then re-drew the FF's World, transporting them home:"


🙂

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More Proof!

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(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook - FF - bio)

... "Quest led them to the gates of Heaven itself ...
the CreatorS
(artists/writers) allowed it,
even healing Reed's facial scars as a parting gift
.

++++ On Panel verification +++

Originally posted by Galan007
the 'presence'/'god' devoured the entire host of heaven, on panel [even michael himself]. he also owned spectre with the utmost of ease:

of course i expect some type of idiotic response about how the above 'feat' still doesn't make the presence >/= the heart, so i don't even know why i typed this response. umm

He beat up two beings completely reliant on his power. 😂

The Spectre has been shown to utterly useless against Libra and unable to kill Darkseid for good because of the Source's involvement.

Heart>>presence. Have anything else?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beat up two beings completely reliant on his power. 😂

The Spectre has been shown to utterly useless against Libra and unable to kill Darkseid for good because of the Source's involvement.

Heart>>presence. Have anything else?

Originally posted by Galan007
of course i expect some type of idiotic response about how the above 'feat' still doesn't make the presence >/= the heart, so i don't even know why i typed this response. umm
lulz

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's interesting to note that his talk with the Spectre is very similiar to "grant avatar's" talk with animal man. If you compare the two, they have striking resemblence. Could the presence and the grant avatar be the same?
they are the same, in a way. they were both drawn to represent the absolute god within DC comics. the grant avatar merely spoke more of the world of comics, from an outside [human] perspective. the true 'god(s)' of DC comics [ie. the staff] could never actually appear in comics, obviously. so naturally, the most we will ever see is an avatar/conception of 'god'.

over the years, DC's had:

the blue brother
the morrison avatar
carlin avatar
the kooky old man in the above scans
a voice representing god
and of course, superman (😛)

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beat up two beings completely reliant on his power. 😂

The Spectre has been shown to utterly useless against Libra and unable to kill Darkseid for good because of the Source's involvement.

Heart>>presence. Have anything else?


You should be warned for such debating. It borders on insanity.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You should be warned for such debating. It borders on insanity.
Why?

Correct me if you can.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why?

Correct me if you can.


How does one correct the illogical? Only logic corrects logic.

Originally posted by fangirl101
How does one correct the illogical? Only logic corrects logic.
Mr. M just proved to you that i was correct with the TOAA.

I cant recall you ever backing up your case. The floor is yours. Have at it.

Originally posted by fangirl101

There are other powers over the LT's.

Proteus. The Celestial Scathan. Some amulet that LT uses to amp himself.


Not exactly.

Protege/Scathan are located in a future
that will not arrive for another 1000 years in real world time.

Marvel Comics follows real world time. 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101

Blah blah. I don't agree with you.

I never will.


I know, cause I'm right on this one.
Originally posted by fangirl101

You don't agree with me.


Cause you're wrong on this one.
Originally posted by fangirl101

never will.


I'll agree with you when you're right.
Originally posted by fangirl101

So why keep going in circles?


I'm only correcting you where you got facts mixed up,
but you seem to lean into that circle at times.
Originally posted by fangirl101

You do an excellent job of presenting your opinion.


Sincerely, thanx.

Don't get me wrong, I only get passionate when we discuss Marvel cosmology for ... reasons.

But I know you know your facts when it comes to certain DC genres.
I've even seen you post facts concerning Marvel's cosmics
that undoubtably you learned at kmc, I've picked up stuff too,
but there are certain Marvel cosmic debates where we don't agree at all though,
like this one.

Originally posted by Galan007
lulz

they are the same, in a way. they were both drawn to represent the absolute god within DC comics. the grant avatar merely spoke more of the world of comics, from an outside [human] perspective. the true 'god(s)' of DC comics [ie. the staff] could never actually appear in comics, obviously. so naturally, the most we will ever see is an avatar/conception of 'god'.

over the years, DC's had:

the blue brother
the morrison avatar
carlin avatar
the kooky old man in the above scans
a voice representing god
and of course, superman (😛)


But what I'm getting at is how He talks about how everyone is who they are because he wants them to be. He changes them. This is basically the same thing grant says. he even talks about how the spectre cannot fathom the dimensions that he exist in. Could he be talking about the real world? We already know that there is a spectre in every reality.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mr. M just proved to you that i was correct with the TOAA.

I cant recall you ever backing up your case. The floor is yours. Have at it.


I'm currently carrying on intelligent debate with Mister Master. And thoughtful analysis with Galan. I'll have to get back with you the day after the end of the world.

Originally posted by Galan007
the 'presence'/'god' devoured the entire host of heaven, on panel [even michael himself]. he also owned spectre with the utmost of ease:

Dude...THAT is The Presence? 😐

Originally posted by fangirl101
But what I'm getting at is how He talks about how everyone is who they are because he wants them to be. He changes them. This is basically the same thing grant says. he even talks about how the spectre cannot fathom the dimensions that he exist in. Could he be talking about the real world? We already know that there is a spectre in every reality.
👆

Originally posted by Enyalus
Dude...[b]THAT is The Presence? 😐 [/B]
it's how spectre percieved him, or rather, how he wanted spectre to percieve him.

did you not see how spidey viewed 'god' in marvel? the dude was a grungy bum. 😘

[QUOTE=11174763]Originally posted by Galan007
[B]👆

QUOTE]
This is a very different view from this Presence than what YWH says to lucifer. This Presence is saying that everything comes from him. He speaks of nothing shaping him from the outside.

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Thanos also absorbed all reality.

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IMO, this is nothing like the Morrison avatar, not in the slightest.

This is just an in-comic GOD, talking like an in-comic GOD.

Thanos talked that same talk:

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"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"

noneyes

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"How dare these cretins defy their Supreme Being?

Was I not Now the End-All and Be-All of Reality?

Their very existence was by My Whim"

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That DC GOD says Spectre can't conceive all the Dimensions in which he exists.

Nice, but how is that different from Thanos?

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

"I was everything"

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Thanos was the embodiment of the entire Marvel Universe!. 😱

For some reason though, to some, (not you G)
it's only official when the DC character says/does the same thing. 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm currently carrying on intelligent debate with Mister Master. And thoughtful analysis with Galan. I'll have to get back with you the day after the end of the world.
You responded to me initially to insult. Then when I asked you to show me the error of my ways you danced around with me by insulting me. You didnt even try to prove anything.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Dude...[b]THAT is The Presence? 😐 [/B]
😂