The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

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Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Mr Master
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TOAA is a drawing that draws everything that takes place on panel,
including Supreme beings like Thanos/HOTI/Infinity being/Alien Entity/IG/Eternity/Infinity.

You can't grasp that, email or write Marvel a letter.

You're clearly going to stick to your guns, but remember this, TOAA is just a fictional avatar. Imploding and exploding the fourth wall is irrelevant to the fact that he is just as fictional as any other character.

He is a creation, an idea of the real life writer within a fictional universe. The fourth wall element is ultimately redundant, it is the writer talking to himself within the panels of the comic book.

They way I see it fiction should be for benefit of the readers the fourth wall nonsense isn't benefitial to me at all, just the writer. I don't want to see a conversation with the writer and himself through two fictional characters, pointless, redundant; it is all fiction anyway

You could say he is conversing with himself anyway (when a writer writes any kind of fiction), I just don't want him to interpose himself within the pages of the fiction when we (his only audience) already understands what it is (I say it again), it's redundant.

joshypooh Restricted

presence for the loss.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master

You're right, but there's still a difference good friend,
they are both drawings, true,
but one drawing is depicted as the creator of the other drawings:

Technically they're both drawings,
but their on panel depiction is completely different.


That says it all.

Have a good night yall.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mr Master
That says it all.

Have a good night yall.


That says what? That marvel's god is an artist and a guy on the other end of a phone. That is what it says.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)

Excerpt from Thanos' own Bio:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

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=========== SUPREME BEING =============

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And GOD!

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Official Marvel Handbook as well:

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

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=========== GOD =============

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Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - LT - bio)

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

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Logic dictates that ONLY TOAA or a power = to or superior could defeat the LT:

LT gets stomped!

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We know Thanos has "someone's" power,
there's no denying that, I'm sure you'll agree.

And if according to Marvel,
the ONLY power above the Living Tribunal's is TOAA's,
who's power do you believe Thanos has?

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The rest of this evidence below,
simply solidifies the scans right above:

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Thanos says:

"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I now am,

did you ever dare demand anything from Him"

Eternity responds,

"No, but" .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)

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"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"

noneyes

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master

Actually, TOAA is above GOD:

According to Jim Starlin, GOD is exactly what the IG made Thanos and Warlock:

Jim Starlin

(the writer/creator of the Infinity Gauntlet)

gets interviewed by Marvel Age.

Marvel Age is a Marvel title specifically designed to get the intricate details
to stories,
from the Writers themselves.

"The Infinity Gauntlet,
a story that dealt with the idea of a nihilist (Thanos) becoming God"

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Jim Starlin himself adds:

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"

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Marvel.com states the Infinity Gauntlet grants,

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gauntlet_%28item%29

Powers: "Absolute Omnipotence when the Gems are used altogether"

Mr Master Junior Member

TOAA? ... hm

"This Being was the only Living Thing that Existed within Any and ALL Realities"

"ALL That Was and ALL that Was, Was it "

Then Thanos says, "I wouldn't blame you for calling it GOD ...

What other name would fit?"

(which makes sense)

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"ALL That Was Was already Part of Itself ... there was NO Other in it's Life"

"It chose to put an End to itself ...

from it's Ashes rose ALL That is currently Reality ... in ALL it's many forms"

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Diana of the Dark Shoppe (from another Multiverse) basically tells the same tale:

"Many Millennia ago in your Universe, (the Prime Multiverse that is)
there was a God with the power of Infinity,
even with control of ALL that is,
the God's loneliness could not be soothed, by his own hand he died"

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... oops ... Yes, that's GOD, yes GOD always was, yes GOD was everything,
yes, GOD created ALL Realities originally ...

but again ... oops ... that's not TOAA!

That's actually just one of TOAA's drawings (the Infinity Being)
doing what the TOAA wrote him to do,
to be the one and only Supreme being that created everything.

stoned

fangirl101 Restricted

How does one become God? How does one take the place of the Supreme being and yet is not still the Supreme Being? How does Supreme power get destroyed? How did God take his place back? If it is all part of God's plan, then how can one ever claim to being God? Isn't God's will ultimately, what makes him God? That things will Forver go the way that he wants them to?

fangirl101 Restricted

What the hell is this? A respect thread?

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by fangirl101
How does one become God? How does one take the place of the Supreme being and yet is not still the Supreme Being? How does Supreme power get destroyed? How did God take his place back? If it is all part of God's plan, then how can one ever claim to being God? Isn't God's will ultimately, what makes him God? That things will Forver go the way that he wants them to?

Doesn't matter, irrelevant, doesn't matter, irrelevant.

Marvel said it. Comics state it.

Canon > Your Objections.

Thanos was the Supreme Being. He stalemates DC's Supreme Being.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus

Doesn't matter, irrelevant, doesn't matter, irrelevant.

Marvel said it. Comics state it.

Canon > Your Objections.

Thanos was the Supreme Being. He stalemates DC's Supreme Being.


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fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Enyalus
Doesn't matter, irrelevant, doesn't matter, irrelevant.

Marvel said it. Comics state it.

Canon > Your Objections.

Thanos was the Supreme Being. He stalemates DC's Supreme Being.


Marvel states it? I haven't seen ONE panel anywhere that says Thanos became the One Above ALL. Not one. And that is what the LT's bio states as his true boss.Until I see a planel explicitely stating that, thanos had another uber power up.

joshypooh Restricted

Originally posted by fangirl101
Marvel states it? I haven't seen ONE panel anywhere that says Thanos became the One Above ALL. Not one. And that is what the LT's bio states as his true boss.Until I see a planel explicitely stating that, thanos had another uber power up.
He said supreme. You say one above all. He is right and you are wrong.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by joshypooh
He said supreme. You say one above all. He is right and you are wrong.

Supreme is a description. The LT's Bio states that the one above all is his boss. Now, where in any panel, or BIO, does it ever state that Thanos has the One above all's power or position. Not supreme. Not god. none of that bullshit. I've seen thanos on panel before as supreme and god. blah blah.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by fangirl101
Supreme is a description. The LT's Bio states that the one above all is his boss. Now, where in any panel, or BIO, does it ever state that Thanos has the One above all's power or position. Not supreme. Not god. none of that bullshit. I've seen thanos on panel before as supreme and god. blah blah.

Eternity confirms it, when Thanos repremands him for his lack of respect. Eternity knows what he's talking about.

fangirl101 Restricted
Originally posted by Enyalus
Eternity confirms it, when Thanos repremands him for his lack of respect. Eternity knows what he's talking about.

Eternity says, Thanos you are the one above all?

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by fangirl101
Eternity says, Thanos you are the one above all?

Read the scan. Mr. Master's posted it half a dozen times in this thread.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Enyalus
Read the scan. Mr. Master's posted it half a dozen times in this thread.

It didn't say anywhere, that Thanos was The One above all. As a matter of fact, in the story, Thanos talks about he was used by the great manipulator. Now is this the one above all? Likely. But not concrete. Which means he couldn't be the one above all and still follow the plan designed by the one above all. No where on any bio does it state that Thanos was infact The One above ALL.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach
Originally posted by fangirl101
That says what? That marvel's god is an artist and a guy on the other end of a phone. That is what it says.

Merely the fictional avatar of the writer. Hmm! book

That could describe any character from a certain point of view.