Vapaad Gauntlet

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Vapaad Gauntlet

Ok, this is actually my first gauntlet, so lets see how it goes.

Mace Windu and Depa Billaba fight:

1. 5 MagnaGuards
2. Kar Vastor
3. Farfalla, General Hoth and Master Worror
4. RotS Anakin and Obi-Wan
5. Mara Jade and Kyle Katarrn
6. Darth Maul and RoT Darth Zannah
7. Raska Lsu and Sarro Xaj
8. Galen Marek and ANH Vader
9. Count Dooku
10. Lumiya and Darth Caedus

They get two days rest between each battle. If one of them dies, obviously, they are not 're-spawned.'

All fights take place in a neutral setting, with no prep time for either party. Combatants start 100 m apart.

How far do they get?

The order is quite messed-up. If it's dark-side Anakin and Obi-Wan, Mace and Depa make it past them- if it's not, they stop right there. Otherwise, they probably make it to Marek/Vader.

I don't think that they'd get stopped by the 'dream team.' I would say Mace >>> Anakin and Kenobi >= Depa. Depa's saberwork actually surpassed Mace. I'd say that she could keep Kenobi occupied while Windu takes out Anakin, at which point Kenobi would be overwhelmed by two Vapaad practitioners. Why do you think that Mace's team could take DS Anakin but not LS Anakin?

The 'Vaapad-effect,' presumably, although dark-side Anakin is a considerably greater warrior than his Jedi incarnation.

If they manage to edge by Marek and Vader - which they very well may not - they slaughter Dooku and probably complete the gauntlet.

Originally posted by Faunus
The 'Vaapad-effect,' presumably, although dark-side Anakin is a considerably greater warrior than his Jedi incarnation.

If they manage to edge by Marek and Vader - which they very well may not - they slaughter Dooku and probably complete the gauntlet.

I really hate the 'Vapaad effect.' It should not make them weak to Lightsiders. What about the Caedus fight? Mace = Caedus?

I think they'd be hard pressed to make it past round three. Hoth is pretty beastly and his companions are all way more experienced than Mace or Depa.

haha...yeah. Hoth has done what to compare? Or Farfalla for that matter? And Worror doesn't even carry a saber.

Hey we all know that anyone before PT you are biased against, so I'm not even going to bother.

You've obviously never seen me argue for Sarro Xaj, Bane, Kas'im or Raskta Lsu.

So is that a roundabout way of conceding the argument, Glentract? I'll ask again:
What have Hoth or Farfalla done to compare to Depa or Mace in battle?

Glentract, don't do that. I do recall a time when you had your hand so far up Ragnos's ass that when I looked at his Wookieepedia picture, I saw your fingers rather than his teeth.

They either stop at 10 or clear the gauntlet. I'm leaning towards them clearing it, though.

Overestimating the Vaapad. They lose on fourth fight. This is the Clone Wars greatest heroes, not average Jedi. Here's the scenario

1.Easily (you know why)
2.Good fight
3.Win, but tired (come on, 3 man?)
4.Kicked in the ass (already tired)

Don't bring that fighting many droid in Geonosis fact. This is lightsaber wielder, not a blaster wielder. It's different. Anyone who says they'll clear the gauntlet, they must be.... well, big fan of Vaapad.

Originally posted by Faunus
The 'Vaapad-effect,' presumably, although dark-side Anakin is a considerably greater warrior than his Jedi incarnation.

If they manage to edge by Marek and Vader - which they very well may not - they slaughter Dooku and probably complete the gauntlet.


If they make it past vader and marek, they will not finish. They will die at Caedus and Lumiya. Darth Caedus was second only to luke during the lotf period, and that says a lot.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
You've obviously never seen me argue for Sarro Xaj, Bane, Kas'im or Raskta Lsu.

So is that a roundabout way of conceding the argument, Glentract? I'll ask again:
[B]What have Hoth or Farfalla done to compare to Depa or Mace in battle?
[/B]

It's more the fact that they were the best of the Jedi during the thousand year war rather than any particular feats.

BTW, Gideon, I argued against Ragnos quite a few times in the past. The Ragnos vs. the PT Jedi Temple, for instance, left a lasting dislike of me by alot of the "antediluvians".

Originally posted by Ultimate Vader
Overestimating the Vaapad. They lose on fourth fight. This is the Clone Wars greatest heroes, not average Jedi. Here's the scenario

Greatest heroes =/= greatest swordsmen/duelists. They were good in combat. This means nothing against other Force users. The Dooku fight proves that. (at least the first half)
Originally posted by Ultimate Vader

1.Easily (you know why)
2.Good fight
3.Win, but tired (come on, 3 man?)
4.Kicked in the ass (already tired)

Originally posted by Me:
They get two days rest between each battle.

I didn't mean for fatigue to be a factor. Therefore it is not. Please feel free to omit that variable from future considerations.
They get two days rest between each battle.
Originally posted by Ultimate Vader
Don't bring that fighting many droid in Geonosis fact. This is lightsaber wielder, not a blaster wielder. It's different. Anyone who says they'll clear the gauntlet, they must be.... well, big fan of Vaapad.

If you refer to the 'droid army' feat, it would be irrelevant, because killing a large number of 'grunts' does not translate to superior tactics against force users. Also, bear in mind that Worror is a non-combatant; he uses Battle Meditation. While in the trance, he is defenseless.

Nothing suggests that any of the Ruusan (sp?) era Jedi would have a chance against the two Vapaad masters.

Originally posted by skywalker833
If they make it past vader and marek, they will not finish. They will die at Caedus and Lumiya. Darth Caedus was second only to luke during the lotf period, and that says a lot.

Caedus was getting beat by Mara Jade. And Vaapad is great against Dark Side users.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It's more the fact that they were the best of the Jedi during the thousand year war rather than any particular feats.

BTW, Gideon, I argued against Ragnos quite a few times in the past. The Ragnos vs. the PT Jedi Temple, for instance, left a lasting dislike of me by alot of the "antediluvians".

In almost any instance of Ragnos vs. any individual, or his individual power, or his dueling ability, or him vs. a multitude of people people-let us not forget the 'Ragnos vs. Palpatine, Bane and Exar Kun' thread, you were throwing support in behind the Antediluvians. Or Exar vs. the PT Jedi council. You won't be accusing me of anything or bringing up the past, Glentract.

And where were they 'the best' of the Jedi then? Why does that make them on par or superior to people like Depa and Mace? Farfalla was slaughtered by Bane one on one, for instance.

Is there anything to support your claim beyond vague status of the time that has no bearing on two of the best warriors of a later time?

By the by, out of curiosity, I decided to give a look see to find this thread..
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-391686-exar-kun-naga-sadaow-marka-ragnos-vs-not-enough-room.html

Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by tdtd
IKC how would you debate this one? The whole council included Yoda, Mace, and at a time Dooku. I wouldn't put Kun above Yoda but equal to him, then you have master swordsmen like Windu and Dooku, so it's definitely fanboyism.

There is zero proof in your crappy post. IKC makes very good arguments and unlike you, is not a fanboy. I suggest you read he post and consider his proof before you spit more of your stupidity.

This thread breaks the rules, but Ancient Sith still pwn.

I'm not seeing much dislike of the Antediluvians there.

Damn.

Will Glentract go into self-exile or make amends for his selective memory?

😛

Either 10 or clears it.