Thanos with The IG vs. the Classic Molecule Man

Originally posted by Enyalus
...Right...meaning he was more powerful than the LT and all other Marvel abstracts, second only to Beyonder. You haven't 'pwned' anything.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He was more powerful than an LT that had did NOTHING.

See Mr. Master's post for LT's pre 1986 feats...

Originally posted by Enyalus
See Mr. Master's post for LT's pre 1986 feats...

Originally posted by fangirl101
They sucked. They weren't anything beyond multiversal. There was only the multiverse.

Then how did they suck if his feats were multiversal in a multiverse?

Originally posted by fangirl101
They sucked. They weren't anything beyond multiversal. There was only the multiverse.

🙄 Okay? So he didn't need to use any extremely uber power. LT's power and position was not retconned. What he could do in 1986 was the same as what he did in 1992 (Infinity War). MM was above him still.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Then how did they suck if his feats were multiversal in a multiverse?

That was the limit of his power. He was the judge of all marvel reality. As TOAA bought more real Estate he gave the LT the keys.

Since when does the LT need feats? We all know what his position is, what more does he need?

Originally posted by fangirl101
That was the limit of his power. He was the judge of all marvel reality. As TOAA bought more real Estate he gave the LT the keys.

So his multiversal feats then suck NOW because the MU is bigger now even though it was only a multiverse when these feats happened?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Since when does the LT need feats? We all know what his position is, what more does he need?

Originally posted by fangirl101
His position was 4th down the ladder in the secret wars.

Yes! MM was stronger than the LT! The LT is stronger than the IG!

MM beats anyone wielding the power of the IG. That's all you need.

In that short period of Marvel. It wasn't that way before.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes! MM was stronger than the LT! The LT is stronger than the IG!

MM beats anyone wielding the power of the IG. That's all you need.

By your logic does that mean we can say what Anti-Monitor did in CoIE sucked? I mean the DCU was alot smaller than it is now, comparatively speaking.

Originally posted by fangirl101
THE IG was the creator of the Universe. How can MM beat the very thing that created him? Epic fail.

What. The. F*ck?

Thanos was the first to construct the Infinity Gauntlet. After the Secret Wars storyline took place. So no, MM was not created by the IG.

What the hell is wrong with you? And besides that, MM was more powerful the LT. Who in turn is more powerful than the IG. Thus, MM >> IG user. Easily.

Originally posted by fangirl101

His position was 4th down the ladder in the secret wars.

The Beyonder was a Supreme being, from another Reality
completely disconnected from the Marvelverse:

... so he doesn't count.

TOAA, (officially) didn't even exist, so he doesn't count either.

Owen was below the LT,
and THEN, when his potential was realized
he became more powerful than the LT,
a potential that's 100% Canon for Humanity in the future.

So, LT was the second most powerful entity in the Marvelverse,
and ONLY because Shooter had Owen reach a potential that's currently canon,
just like Protege was engineered to be born into that potential in the GOTG arc.

Originally posted by Enyalus
What. The. F*ck?

Thanos was the first to construct the Infinity Gauntlet. After the Secret Wars storyline took place. So no, MM was not created by the IG.

What the hell is wrong with you? And besides that, MM was more powerful the LT. Who in turn is more powerful than the IG. Thus, MM >> IG user. Easily.

Nemesis apparently.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And who made the IG?

Thanos made the IG. Nemesis made each gem.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Nemesis apparently.

Nemesis is a chick if memory serves.

How can MM be more powerful than Nemesis? Easy, because he is. Even POST-retcon MM is beastly. LT stated his power is without limit.