Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'd never heard of Mark Ruffalo prior to the Avengers; and even now I can't recall a single movie he's been in.On the other hand though, the only movies I ever watch are sci-fi movies, cheesy action flicks and the occasional western; so, different demographic.
You're a genre fan, it's to be expected on KMC.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
If I'm a genre fan, I'd imagine that just about everyone on the planet is a genre fan. The only people who have no preference in regards to genres are moviephiles. Moviephiles are a minority.
By genre fan I don't mean "You are a fan of a specific genre." The term "genre fan" is basically a blanket term used by reviewers and the media to cover interest in a specific handful of different genres with on term, which essentially amounts to anything that might show up at comic-con. So we are talking about sci-fi / horror / fantasy / superheroes, essentially all the hallmarks of geek pop culture. For example Dr Who is a "genre" television show, but CSI is not, even though it obviously falls into a specific genre (police procedural).
It's funny that I had this conversation in real life with someone yesterday. They asked be why I watched Supernatural, and I told them that I basically watch all genre television... then I had to explain what genre television was. lol
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do they not send films directed by David Fincher or Martin Scorsese to France, or is that you just don't watch movies in general Bentley? I question the honesty of anyone in this thread who says they haven't heard of Mark Ruffalo prior to this casting.
In all fairness I may have not payed enough attention, but the sense of my post remains. I could see many great authors that are not as known as Norton, which I see it as more of a name value than anything else. I agree with the genre argument as being the main basis of Norton being known though.
Also, I do think I might have heard Ruffalo's name, but sadly I don't remember any of his roles, I'm bad enough with names as it is. 🙁
David Fincher and Martin Scorsese are seen over here, not as much as in the US though. Personally I see all kind of movies -many cinephile films, all kind of foreign films -italian, iranian, spanish, american obviously-, and some blockbusters-, but I don't watch that many movies a year, which makes it much more easier to remember just the "big names".
Originally posted by Bentley
In all fairness I may have not payed enough attention, but the sense of my post remains. I could see many great authors that are not as known as Norton, which I see it as more of a name value than anything else. I agree with the genre argument as being the main basis of Norton being known though.Also, I do think I might have heard Ruffalo's name, but sadly I don't remember any of his roles, I'm bad enough with names as it is. 🙁
David Fincher and Martin Scorsese are seen over here, not as much as in the US though. Personally I see all kind of movies -many cinephile films, all kind of foreign films -italian, iranian, spanish, american obviously-, and some blockbusters-, but I don't watch that many movies a year, which makes it much more easier to remember just the "big names".
It might be hard for some to compartmentalize the general public's perception of an actor with that of the genre fandom. Norton has stared in several movies that play well with geek culture fandom like Hulk, Fight Club and the Illusionist. Ruffalo has done a lot of stuff just not a lot of genre work, the closest he has to that would be Shutter Island (which Placidity mentioned) or maybe Where The Wild Things Are... or maybe Zodiac... but all of those are reaching. It might not seem like it with in our little community of comic fans, but Mark Ruffalo is just as big of a name as Edward Norton is.
I'm going to give you a pass on not knowing who Mark Ruffalo is because you are from a different country that isn't in NA. 😎
Guys lets not start making Ruffalo some huge star now anywhere near Norton's league just because he's Bruce Banner now! Lol..
Norton's a famous actor. Ruffalo isnt. Deal with it guys. And no I had never heard of Ruffalo before Avengers. I still have trouble remembering his name. Although turns out I had seen him before (and liked his acting) in a chick flick "13 going on 30"
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He has done some great movies but Edward Norton is hardly a house hold name,
Urmm yes it is. I would be hard pressed to find someone I know who's never heard of Ed Norton. I would also be hard pressed to find anyone I know who's heard of Mark Ruffalo.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
and honestly Mark Ruffalo's performance in The Kids Are All Right is probably better then anything Norton has done since the 90s.
Never heard of it. But I doubt it compares to Ed's acting in American History X.. Although that may have been the 90's.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Sure, I would have preferred Norton to come back, largely because he looks like Banner,
Yeah thats another reason I liked him as BB. Ruffalo doesnt seem to physically have "the look"..
Originally posted by Placidity
That doesn't knock the actor, just shows your lack of knowledge.
What knowledge? Whats the guy famous for.. You're really telling me Ruffalo is even close to being a household name??
Originally posted by Placidity
Although I will agree Ed Norton is more famous.
Its not even a contest tbh.
Originally posted by Kazenji
have you bothered to look up that info yourself?
Ah and there we have it.. If he was even close to being as famous as Norton, I wouldn't have to look up who the guy is. Someone at my workplace would have heard of him.
Notice how no ones questioned what Norton is famous for.. Like I said theres no comparison here in terms of fame.
I def don't think Ruffalo is as famous or as good of an actor as Norton. Honestly, Norton can carry a movie on his own while I have yet to see Ruffalo do so. Norton, therefore, is a leading man while Ruffalo is a supporting actor, IMO.
With that said, Mark Ruffalo is a great supporting actor, and is definitely well known and famous in his own right. Some of his better roles include: The Kids are Alright, Reservation Road, Zodiac, What Doesn't Kill You, and The Last Castle from the ones I've seen. Pretty much all supporting or co-starring roles, but very well acted.
I think he's more than capable of playing Bruce Banner, which in this case, is a supporting role.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'd never heard of Mark Ruffalo prior to the Avengers; and even now I can't recall a single movie he's been in.On the other hand though, the only movies I ever watch are sci-fi movies, cheesy action flicks and the occasional western; so, different demographic.
I've followed his career ever since You Can Count On Me, back in 2000. He's always interesting to watch through films like Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, Collateral, Zodiac, Shutter Island etc.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Wha?you look him up to see what movies he's done dipstick.......Not oh i have to look up this particular person so that means he's not famous.
Who u calling dipstick?!
He's not that famous you moron! Stop wanking over him just because he in the Avengers now! Iv looked up his films, even seen a couple of them.. But he's not been in anything huge! And even the movies he's in he's usually a supporting role as someone's already pointed out.
He's no Norton. Deal with it.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Who u calling dipstick?!He's not that famous you moron! Stop wanking over him just because he in the Avengers now! Iv looked up his films, even seen a couple of them.. But he's not been in anything huge! And even the movies he's in he's usually a supporting role as someone's already pointed out.
He's no Norton. Deal with it.
And remember, before there was Ed Norton, there was Eric Bana.
Just accept the fact Marvel has had problems dealing with the Hulk in movies. Let's hope third times the charm.