Insane Genis Vell vs Kindom Gog

Started by The Great Galen7 pages

Don't really see why genis wouldn't just be blasted into bits by a blast from gog.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Don't really see why genis wouldn't just be blasted into bits by a blast from gog.
Because Superman was able to take blasts from him?

And it's already been said what Genis controls... energy.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Actually Entropy did it himself. He felt the desire to create so he set off the big bang again and turned himself into Eternity.

Nope. Entropy was bored and wanted a new concept. Didn't have the required energy in order to change abstractual concepts, though. Then, without warning, Genis shoots and kills him, thus starting the Big Bang and accidentally becoming Eternity...ending with Eternity saying he is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning of his end and vice versa, promptly being told by Genis to shut the hell up, they got the idea.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Don't really see why genis wouldn't just be blasted into bits by a blast from gog.

Because you don't understand the concept of Genis controlling energy, and a blast from Gog's staff being...energy. And solar energy to boot. Starlight (solar radiation) actually powers up all Mar-vells. If anything, he'd become stronger.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Nope. Entropy was bored and wanted a new concept. Didn't have the required energy in order to change abstractual concepts, though. Then, without warning, Genis shoots and kills him, thus starting the Big Bang and accidentally becoming Eternity...ending with Eternity saying he is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning of his end and vice versa, promptly being told by Genis to shut the hell up, they got the idea.

Never once does any of that happen. 1 panel you see Genis point a gun at Entropy then next you see BANG! Then Epiphany and Genis mention that Entropy became Eternity, nothing about it accidentally happening.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Because Superman was able to take blasts from him?

And it's already been said what Genis controls... energy.


Thats nice gog can control energy as well,and superman never survived a shot meant to kill him gogs first blast was to burn the symbol into his chest,the second was blocked by nabu alan scott and jades powers combined,genis isn't going to deal with a staff powered by the source the guardians energy shazam and zeus combined,when gog wanted someone owned it happened,he one shoted older more powerful supermen he one shoted myx no reason he couldn't kill genis.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Never once does any of that happen. 1 panel you see Genis point a gun at Entropy then next you see BANG! Then Epiphany and Genis mention that Entropy became Eternity, nothing about it accidentally happening.

Everything happened exactly how I said it happened except for the 'accidentally' part. I misspoke. I meant that they were surprised by it. It didn't seem like any of them were expecting Entropy to become his father.

Uhh really? They said it was him immediately after. It seems they knew exactly what was going to happen.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Because Superman was able to take blasts from him?

And it's already been said what Genis controls... energy.

So Glads took shots from a FP tyrant but does that demean tyran in anyway, gogs energy is on a different level...dont know what so hard to understand about that.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Uhh really? They said it was him immediately after. It seems they knew exactly what was going to happen.

Saying something after it happens isn't the same as knowing it will happen. Entropy isn't even sure how to go about creating something. Clearly he didn't know.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Thats nice gog can control energy as well,and superman never survived a shot meant to kill him gogs first blast was to burn the symbol into his chest,the second was blocked by nabu alan scott and jades powers combined,genis isn't going to deal with a staff powered by the source the guardians energy shazam and zeus combined,when gog wanted someone owned it happened,he one shoted older more powerful supermen he one shoted myx no reason he couldn't kill genis.
Originally posted by Red Hulk

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Originally posted by The Great Galen
So Glads took shots from a FP tyrant but does that demean tyran in anyway, gogs energy is on a different level...dont know what so hard to understand about that.
Tyrant has other feats though better than that. Gog has statements of power, and him going through a what... alternate Mxy?
Also, Tyrant isn't said to be on abstract level. 😐

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Tyrant has other feats though better than that. Gog has statements of power, and him going through a what... alternate Mxy?

Alternate-universe Mxy...hm, I'd never thought of that.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Tyrant has other feats though better than that. Gog has statements of power, and him going through a what... alternate Mxy?
Also, Tyrant isn't said to be on abstract level. 😐

Had to go through myx,never tried to kill him in the first one,that second scan superman isn't even in that part,and the other one was him still not trying to kill him,again everytime he wanted to kill a superman or anyone else they died I mean jesus he disentegrated the astro harness along with tons of other cosmic items....I don't think ive ever seen someone trash the astro harness like that,myx is myx he exists in a higher plane of existence...the only alternate myx I know of is the anti-matter one.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Had to go through myx,never tried to kill him in the first one,that second scan superman isn't even in that part,and the other one was him still not trying to kill him,again everytime he wanted to kill a superman or anyone else they died I mean jesus he disentegrated the astro harness along with tons of other cosmic items....I don't think ive ever seen someone trash the astro harness like that,myx is myx he exists in a higher plane of existence...the only alternate myx I know of is the anti-matter one.
If it had enough power to go through Mxy, and still had the accuracy to hit Superman... I'm betting it was aimed to kill...

Him not trying to kill him? So, getting off two cheapshots in two different battles were just him saying hi? And him going through different timelines to kill Supermen...

No they didn't. He didn't kill two Supermen, and saying him killing Superman isn't really much... considering he has their weakness channeled through his staff.

Alternate reality?

So, either Mxy isn't very durable, or Superman is very. I mean, the blast went straight through him and hit Superman before anyone knew what happened. It didn't seem to suffer too much resistance.
As well as Superman suffering a similar cheapshot.

If there's an alternate Mxy, then I wonder if there can be more... especially since that Mxy didn't seem too impressive.

Myxs body obviously took most of the force,we have seen him one shot a superman before stop being dim,yes the first shot was def not meant to kill him hence him asking questions ect,the second shot was to burn the mark onto superman...it wasn't until he fired the last time that he had any killing intent in it...and it was alan scott jade and nabus powers combined that stopped it..he obviously didn't go all out or anything superman isn't strong enough to warrant that,when he got pissed later he destroys a ton of cosmic artifacts including green lantern rings,that one rod that starman uses,the astro harness which can control the freaking astro force energies.

This all really amounts to nothing. Gog's staff is not doing anything to Genis. He controls energy. That's his thing. Especially photonic (and stellar) energy. Which evidently is what Gog's staff is - the power of a dozen red suns.

Saying that Genis "killed" Entropy is a gross overstatement. Genis created an "energy discharge" by shooting Entropy, that allowed Entropy to recreate the universe (he had the power to do it, but not the inspiration.) That did the trick. But that's it. It's not like Entropy was destroyed or anything.

Neither would that mean he could take KC gog, one good blast is all gog needs.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Saying that Genis "killed" Entropy is a gross overstatement. Genis created an "energy discharge" by shooting Entropy, that allowed Entropy to recreate the universe (he had the power to do it, but not the inspiration.) That did the trick. But that's it. It's not like Entropy was destroyed or anything.

They had already killed Eternity. There literally was no universe and nothing except for Entropy itself. He killed Entropy (the end), to create the beginning. It's all evident from the scans.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Myxs body obviously took most of the force,we have seen him one shot a superman before stop being dim,yes the first shot was def not meant to kill him hence him asking questions ect,the second shot was to burn the mark onto superman...it wasn't until he fired the last time that he had any killing intent in it...and it was alan scott jade and nabus powers combined that stopped it..he obviously didn't go all out or anything superman isn't strong enough to warrant that,when he got pissed later he destroys a ton of cosmic artifacts including green lantern rings,that one rod that starman uses,the astro harness which can control the freaking astro force energies.
How could it have taken most of the force when it went through him like paper?

We saw him one shot a Superman with what seemed like an all out attack with red sun.

He was asking questions to the Superman he flayed all his skin off of too.

How durable is the Astro Harness since you're making a big deal out of it? Correction... How durable is the alternate reality Astro Harness?
Probably not very, since the pissed off attack he threw ended with everybody getting up afterwards...
Another angry attack had him not one-shotting any of the three WW's he hit.

Originally posted by Enyalus
They had already killed Eternity. There literally was no universe and nothing except for Entropy itself. He killed Entropy (the end), to create the beginning. It's all evident from the scans.

What sort of ridiculous logic is that? Killing one of the two doesn't create the other, Eternity and Entropy had coexisted originally. Killing Eternity didn't create Entropy, so where this idea of killing Entropy being the thing that created Eternity came from is beyond me. The scans are clear as daylight: Genis' gun provided energy that was the necessary inspiration for Entropy to recreate himself and the universe.