Insane Genis Vell vs Kindom Gog

Originally posted by King Kandy
What sort of ridiculous logic is that? Killing one of the two doesn't create the other, Eternity and Entropy had coexisted originally. Killing Eternity didn't create Entropy, so where this idea of killing Entropy being the thing that created Eternity came from is beyond me. The scans are clear as daylight: Genis' gun provided energy that was the necessary inspiration for Entropy to recreate himself and the universe.

I never said killing one of the two created the other. Clearly, Eternity died and Entropy wasn't created...since he already existed.

Entropy died. Entropy then became Eternity. Eternity was born from his death. If you can find Entropy later on in that arc, be my guest. But you won't - because he's not there. And Eternity says it himself, "my own beginning. My own end."

Gog wins

Originally posted by Enyalus
I never said killing one of the two created the other. Clearly, Eternity died and Entropy wasn't created...since he already existed.

Entropy died. Entropy then became Eternity. Eternity was born from his death. If you can find Entropy later on in that arc, be my guest. But you won't - because he's not there. And Eternity says it himself, "my own beginning. My own end."

Originally posted by King Kandy
If I can find Entropy later in that arc... hell, I can't even find ETERNITY later in that arc, because the character never appeared again. Entropy never even died, he just changed into Eternity. Where in the scans did it say he died?

Entropy is standing right there. Genis shoots him. Entropy is gone. Eternity - who was dead - is back again. Entropy died and became Eternity. It's very simple.

Edit: If you want to go and say "Entropy changed into Eternity" that's fine...'cause that is, afterall, what happened. But how did that come to pass? Genis shot him.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Uhh really? They said it was him immediately after. It seems they knew exactly what was going to happen.

Of course they knew what happened after they saw Entropy as Eternity.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Entropy is standing right there. Genis shoots him. Entropy is gone. Eternity - who was dead - is back again. Entropy died and became Eternity. It's very simple.

Edit: If you want to go and say "Entropy changed into Eternity" that's fine...'cause that is, afterall, what happened. But how did that come to pass? Genis shot him.

ill one shot you

Originally posted by King Kandy
You were using "he killed Entropy" as a feat, as if Genis could just whip out his gun and one-shot abstracts any time he felt like it.

That's what he did...And he also crushes Eternity before that. Literally. Not to mention one shotting a skyfatherish level storm giant and wiping out three armadas by thinking it.

Plus having control over chronal energy and the ability to generate, heal, and manipulate temporal rifts, and time travel at will.

Genis should beat Gog.

Originally posted by Enyalus
And he also crushes Eternity before that. Literally.

The actual battle with Eternity took place off panel.

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Anyhow, Gog ftw. I have never seen anything from Genis which would lead me to believe he'd win here.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was not the 'real' Eternity. Genis was simply recalling to the others what he/Entropy had done to Eternity, so he made an Eternity 'hologram' in his palm. It was that which he 'crushed'.

The actual battle with Eternity took place off panel.

This much I know. But he states, and demonstrates (on the hologram) that he 'crushed' Eternity. And Epiphany, Entropy, and Rick - who were all there and present to witness, don't correct him. So, that's probably how it happened.

So then how does genis beat gog again?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So then how does genis beat gog again?

What does Gog have? A staff that shoots solar energy. And time manipulation abilities.

Guess what? Genis can control chronal energy and temporal rifts as well as time travel. So that advantage is nullified. He can also absorb all types of energy, but especially photonic/ambient (solar) energy. Not to mention that solar energy actually empowers him. So, that advantage is also nullified.

Genis has superspeed, superstrength (enough to match Maestro Hulk and snap Burstarr's neck), durability high enough to shrug off a Mjolnir throw from King Thor without any damage as well as be hit with fire from the Kree, Skrull, and Shi'ar fleets at the same time without having a scratch put on him. He's also got omniversal level telepathy and mind rape options, as well as the ability to pull various versions of others (Gog) out of the timestream to have people confront themselves. Power enough to oneshot the original Storm Giants and abstractual entities...

The question you should ask yourself is how goes Gog win? And the answer you're looking for would be - he doesn't.

Gog wins.

Gog wins a quick death.

Hahahahah!

I agree, Genis beating him to death IS funny. 🙂

You're a funny guy, Mindset. Funny. 🙂

🙂

Originally posted by Enyalus
What does Gog have? A staff that shoots solar energy. And time manipulation abilities.

Guess what? Genis can control chronal energy and temporal rifts as well as time travel. So that advantage is nullified. He can also absorb all types of energy, but especially photonic/ambient (solar) energy. Not to mention that solar energy actually empowers him. So, that advantage is also nullified.

Genis has superspeed, superstrength (enough to match Maestro Hulk and snap Burstarr's neck), durability high enough to shrug off a Mjolnir throw from King Thor without any damage as well as be hit with fire from the Kree, Skrull, and Shi'ar fleets at the same time without having a scratch put on him. He's also got omniversal level telepathy and mind rape options, as well as the ability to pull various versions of others (Gog) out of the timestream to have people confront themselves. Power enough to oneshot the original Storm Giants and abstractual entities...

The question you should ask yourself is how goes Gog win? And the answer you're looking for would be - he doesn't.

Yeah Gog wins he also absorbs all kinds of energy and his staff isn't just solar powered it has magical/cosmic properties. I see them slugging it out blast won't work so h2h is like the only option.