Insane Genis Vell vs Kindom Gog

Originally posted by Enyalus
The staff is irrelevant because:

1) Genis can manipulate all types of energy.
2) Genis can absorb all types of energy (in the CM run he absorbs the power of five star systems. That's not its limit, but that's all he needed to.)
3) Genis can shunt energy anywhere.
4) Genis can open temporal rifts and have Gog be hit by his own blast.
5) Genis can fold space around him and teleport out of the way.
6) Genis can phase himself through objects.
7) Genis can create light-generated duplicates of himself. Like so:

(Since I kept mentioning it.)

Why is he so uber to you in H2H? Can you show me something to justify that?

Originally posted by Enyalus

I've never known you to be the type to shade anything.

It states, specifically,
"If he had, do you think Entropy and I could have bound him so easily?
Or at all?

And right before I crushed him."

He gives Entropy credit for helping bind Eternity.

It was Genis who killed him.

Entropy definitely helped Genis, there's no denying that,
but without a doubt,
Genis was given the majority of the credit in the accomplishment of the feat,
that feat is, destroying all that is, all that was, & all that will ever be in Marvel.

✅

"right before I (Genis) crushed him ... like this"

"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

"You (Genis) destroy life at a Whim ... You're (Genis) not God"

Genis replies,

Of course I am ...
Haven't you been paying attention to my (Genis) acts" (no more Marvelverse)

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Insane Genis was ridiculously powerful,
anyone who read the Insane run would know this,
omniscience, & practical omnipotence = respect on a cosmic scale.

So respect Insane Genis yall, who played the major role in destroying the Marvelverse.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

You keep saying that but genis has never manipulated source energy
or guardian energy or any of that crap,

the source is the foundation of all energy in dc

Just sayin.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
You keep saying that but genis has never manipulated source energy or guardian energy or any of that crap,the source is the foundation of all energy in dc thats why takion can manipulate all kingds of energy,he still isn't going to beat gog because sheer power comes into play

In addition to what Mr. Master said about Eternity and energy in the Marvelverse, I'd like to post this:

Chen: He virtually becomes one with photons. And photons are fundamental building blocks of the very fabric of our reality, so...
Songbird: He's all-powerful. No wonder he can't control that.

As you can see there, he should be able to manipulate even the Source's energies.

And if you want to talk about power...

"Readings [from Genis] almost seem to emulate a quasar pulse."

Some quasars emit energy greater than one trillion suns. Now, that's power. And what with the 'all powerful' quote above and:

"Each of us, in our own ways, had power that was nigh infinite. Together...infinity is a mere stepping stone to a greater purpose."

How can you even think that Gog has more power than Genis? He does not. Genis one-shot a skyfather level being and Entropy (abstract level) itself. He's ridiculously powerful.

And thanks, Mr. M.

Any and all energy will only power Gog he pwned an extremely powerful team Kc Superman was a child to him and Nabu is the most powerful Lord of order and Gog sucked up his magic and Alan Scotts like it was Kool Aid. He was insanely powerful.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Any and all energy will only power Gog he pwned an extremely powerful team Kc Superman was a child to him and Nabu is the most powerful Lord of order and Gog sucked up his magic and Alan Scotts like it was Kool Aid. He was insanely powerful.

My point is that Gog's staff won't be an issue. And as you can see - Genis' power is massive. A lesser version of him was physically stalemating the Maestro. This one was one-shot disintegrating demons, casually snapping Burstarr's neck (class 100+), toying with two powerful storm giants (physically and with energy blasts) and hanging out with abstracts like Entropy and Epiphany (after killing their father, Eternity.)

Yeah well like I said before energy attacks are pointless bfr is pointless this will be hand to hand and at this point I really don't care who wins.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah well like I said before energy attacks are pointless bfr is pointless this will be hand to hand and at this point I really don't care who wins.

I'd agree that energy attacks are pointless. From both sides. I'm not sure about BFR being pointless. And I still see no reason why a telepathic assault and mind rape wouldn't work against someone who is so incredibly unstable. Genis could pull versions of himself out of the timesteam before he became Gog to trouble and argue with him, too. Totally confuse the guy. Gog was very unstable.

And even if it did come down to H2H, I'm going with the guy who's got Kree military training.

Dude Gog could do the same thing and Genis wasn't the most stable guy around either....

Originally posted by iceman24567
Dude Gog could do the same thing and Genis wasn't the most stable guy around either....

I know all about Gog's talents for pulling different versions of himself from hypertime. I'm saying that Genis can also do that...to other people. Have them confront themselves at different points in their life, etc. He's done it to others, and, since you bring up his own mental instability - he's done it to himself, too. He brought his Legacy era self out along with his Captain Marvel self out to join him (Insane.) Then, he tried to convince his CM self to shoot his Legacy self so his Insane self would never come to pass (LOL).

...He ends up disposing of them both.

Plus if mind rape would so easily defeat Gog then Rip could have pulled just about any telepath from time to stop him.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Plus if mind rape would so easily defeat Gog then Rip could have pulled just about any telepath from time to stop him.

It was never tried. Either they were stupid, or it was PIS.

Well whatever both characters are powerful but I'm hungry...

Originally posted by iceman24567
Well whatever both characters are powerful but I'm hungry...

Yeah, that's cool. I'm glad at least Galan provided a bit of evidence to support his claim instead of the standard, "HE CONTROLZ SOURCE ENERGY HE IZ 2 POWERFULL!" argument.

Not that you did that. And it's cool you think that Gog wins. I think Genis does. Just wanted to back up my position incase some people didn't understand what he could do and exactly how powerful he was (one trillion suns?).

I'll be civil and agree to disagree. I hope you have something to snack on there. It's too late here to go down and grab anything substantial here lol...but I do have lots of candy and peanut brittle on hand. 😈

Eny seems to 'like' Genis way too much for me to want to continue debating in this thread any longer. Plus... He's the only fanboy still arguing for Genis.

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Gog wins. The guy was a beast. Save the plot device bs that beat him and he woul dhave kicked the shit out of the good guys.

Originally posted by Galan007
Eny seems to 'like' Genis way too much for me to want to continue debating in this thread any longer. Plus... He's the only fanboy still arguing for Genis.

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I've got every appearance by him since 1999 (Destiny War). 😮

IMO, Photon was the most powerful version.

...And **** you. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
I've got every appearance by him since 1999 (Destiny War). 😮

IMO, Photon was the most powerful version.

...And **** you. 😛

Originally posted by Mindset
DO you have them on ur comp?

Non.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I've got every appearance by him since 1999 (Destiny War). 😮

IMO, Photon was the most powerful version.

...And **** you. 😛

And **** you sideways. 😄