Originally posted by MindsetApparently, tagging Flash isn't enough for people these days, meh..
Well people were saying Gog was faster than Flash so Genis didn't have a chance in hth.So far I've seen a scan of him predicting were Flash would be and blasting him, not sure how that would translate in a hth fight.
There's also this, though:
Originally posted by Galan007
Hell, even when Rip stepped in between nanoseconds, Gog was still able to track, and disable him.
Originally posted by Mindsetlol. So Gog tagging Genis because he knows where he'll be shouldn't be much of a shocker then, eh? 😛
Tagging Flash with an energy blast because you know where he will be isn't that mind boggling.
Originally posted by MindsetIt's not... Watch Rip:
No, I didn't miss it, it just seems similar to the Flash incident.
Keep in mind, Gog was tracking Rip [whom was stepping in between nanoseconds] while he was 'distracted' fighting all the other heroes.
Speed would lend no hand to Genis here, imo.
Originally posted by Galan007
Genis himself gave Entropy credit in helping destroy Eternity.."While Entropy and I were busy ending everything":
I've never known you to be the type to shade anything. It states, specifically, "If he had, do you think Entropy and I could have bound him so easily? Or at all? And right before I crushed him."
He gives Entropy credit for helping bind Eternity. It was Genis who killed him.
Originally posted by Galan007
It does say that. However, it also says Gog's staff housed.."The emerald Energy of the Guardians of the Universe"
"The Cosmic power of the Source"
"The magical might of Zeus and Shazam combined":
Energy is energy, to be manipulated or shunted off into another dimension or temporal rift at Genis' leisure. Gog's staff won't help him in this fight.
Originally posted by Galan007
Really?:
Yeah - it's explained on panel. He saw the electrons excite in the air just before Flash got there. That does not equal him being faster than Flash.
Nor do I think that Genis is faster than Flash or any other such ridiculousness. But him being able to teleport anywhere would spot him an advantage. There's no "exciting electrons" involved to track, etc. He's folding space itself. Like what the Godstalker (celestial) does to transport. He can also make light-generated duplicates of himself, so that Gog won't know who to hit with his staff.
But like I said, the staff won't be a factor at all. And BFR is very, very possible.
BFR is impossible gog had control over time and hypertime there is no place you can put him where he won't come back,hes faster then people stepping between nanoseconds and supermen,LOL at genis just manipulating all that energy combined stop it with the no limits fallacy I suppose the IG energy would just get shunted too huh?they both manipulate energy,genis is not immune to being blasted,he can't win in hand to hand.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
BFR is impossible gog had control over time and hypertime there is no place you can put him where he won't come back,hes faster then people stepping between nanoseconds and supermen,LOL at genis just manipulating all that energy combined stop it with the no limits fallacy I suppose the IG energy would just get shunted too huh?they both manipulate energy,genis is not immune to being blasted,he can't win in hand to hand.
No limits fallacy my ass. I suggest you read something with Insane Genis in it before commenting.
"Each of us, in our own ways, had power that was nigh infinite. Together...infinity is a mere stepping stone to a greater purpose."
Originally posted by Enyalus
No limits fallacy my ass. I suggest you read something with Insane Genis in it before commenting.
"Each of us, in our own ways, had power that was nigh infinite. Together...infinity is a mere stepping stone to a greater purpose."
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Thats nice,the source is beyond infinite,guess what gogs staff channels?that the guardians energy and 2 skyfathers magical energies combined,again show genis actually standing up to that kind of energy output and just being unharmed or shunting it away with ease.
Don't give me bullshit about Gog's staff channeling an infinite amount of power. Otherwise it'd one-hit everyone. Abstracts included. Just because it is powered by the Source does not mean it gets to use all of the Source's power.
Originally posted by iceman24567
How can you bfr somebody that can enter hypertime effortlessly? Gog easily withstood attacks from Nabu, Zatanna, Alan Scott and Rip Hunter stepping inbetweent nano seconds why don't you read the bloody arch again 😐
The Kingdom Gog traveled through time, in that same universe. He used Hypertime to do that...yes?
What bearing at all does that have to do with Genis BFRing him to a completely different dimension or universe? Such as, I dunno...the Microverse? Or to the end of time for that matter, where Entropy would eat his ass.
Hypertime is all time all universes,and the staff did one shot abstract levels aka myx,again when did genis take an attack of that magnitude and was not harmed or just effortlessly shunted it away?the staff had no problem destroying the astro harness you know the thing that channels the wrath of the source you know a power that has reversed universal ending energies.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Hypertime is all time all universes,and the staff did one shot abstract levels aka myx,again when did genis take an attack of that magnitude and was not harmed or just effortlessly shunted it away?
You're dancing again. Saying things and telling me nothing. He used hypertime to travel through one universe. He can't simply use it to get back to the universe they are fighting in if Genis BFRs him.
Taking the combined force of the Kree, Skrull and Shi'ar fleets without any injuries whatsoever. And joking about it afterward. There's also scans in the Genis-Vell respect thread when, as Photon fighting Sentry, narration panels state that he can shunt energy anywhere. That's Photon though, so I'm not using it as evidence. Nevertheless, it's very possible he could simply open up a temporal rift or a dimensional rift or fold space around the blast to shunt it somewhere else. There are plenty of showing with him doing just that.
The combined force of the kree skrull and shiar amplified 10x over is complete shit compared to a guys who staff contains a dozen red suns,energy from the source,the guardians and 2 skyfathers magical energies combined,hypertime manipulation allows for manipulation OF ANY TIME PERIOD EVER IF IT EXISTS THERE IS NO REASON HE CAN'T COME BACK.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
The combined force of the kree skrull and shiar amplified 10x over is complete shit compared to a guys who staff contains a dozen red suns,energy from the source,the guardians and 2 skyfathers magical energies combined
Lol. What the **** do you want me to show you, then? Him getting hit by three different Galactuses? What would shut you up? He took it effortlessly. And if he doesn't want to, he's not getting hit. Simple as that. The staff has no bearing on this fight.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
hypertime manipulation allows for manipulation OF ANY TIME PERIOD EVER IF IT EXISTS THERE IS NO REASON HE CAN'T COME BACK.
🙄 So if I'm on Earth-22 and I've just been BFR'd to New Earth, hypertime is going to allow me to cross universes and be back in E-22? Think about that for a second...
Hypertime connects all universes/timelines so yes if you have the kind of control gog had over it you can do that...how is the staff irrelevent when again it has more power then anything genis took thats right its not,genis can't win in hand to hand and its very questionable if he could win in an energy battle the staff was a beast of a weapon why you continually try to ignore that is beyond me.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Hypertime connects all universes/timelines so yes if you have the kind of control gog had over it you can do that...how is the staff irrelevent when again it has more power then anything genis took thats right its not,genis can't win in hand to hand and its very questionable if he could win in an energy battle the staff was a beast of a weapon why you continually try to ignore that is beyond me.
The staff is irrelevant because:
1) Genis can manipulate all types of energy.
2) Genis can absorb all types of energy (in the CM run he absorbs the power of five star systems. That's not its limit, but that's all he needed to.)
3) Genis can shunt energy anywhere.
4) Genis can open temporal rifts and have Gog be hit by his own blast.
5) Genis can fold space around him and teleport out of the way.
6) Genis can phase himself through objects.
7) Genis can create light-generated duplicates of himself. Like so:
(Since I kept mentioning it.)
Why is he so uber to you in H2H? Can you show me something to justify that?
