Insane Genis Vell vs Kindom Gog

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah Gog wins he also absorbs all kinds of energy and his staff isn't just solar powered it has magical/cosmic properties.

It straight up says that it is powered by a dozen red suns. But besides that, doesn't matter - Genis can control and manipulate all energy types.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I see them slugging it out blast won't work so h2h is like the only option.

Or telepathy. Or BFR. Or him tearing space and time itself apart. Or a great many other options. But as already said, he's - at the very least - Maestro Hulk's equal physically. With superspeed. And military trained. So I'm sure H2H would also be fine with him.

And it straight up says its powered by the source,the guardians energy,and magical energy as well,thats nice gog can manipulate energy as well,genis has never manipulated energy on the level of something with the guardians the sources zeus and shazams magical powers and a dozen red suns all in one weapon,gog can travel through time and hypertime bfr won't work,gog is faster then the flash he can otuspeed people stepping inbetween nanoseconds...and no hand to hand would not be fine he has ripped apart with no effort metal stronger then a older supermans skin.

Ugh. Gog is not faster than the Flash.

Ugh yeah he was,he easily tagged him,he can easily keep up with someone stepping between nanoseconds...you know a nanosecond is the time it takes light to travel one foot.

Kingdom Come Flash was literaly everywhere at once, yet that didn't stop Gog from taking him down.

Wasn't Gog able to tag Flash by sensing the vibration of molecules in the air as KC Flash moved? Pretty sure Genis wouldn't be fast enough to dodge shots from Gog's uber staff.

KC Flash was insane, yet gog managed to keep pace with him...pretty fast guy for sure.

Kingdom Come and Kingdom are the same universe?

Telepathy or Bfr? Ok whatever he was extremely fast I don't see Genis beating as easily as you say let's agree to dissagree and his staff is powered by alot more than red suns.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Wasn't Gog able to tag Flash by sensing the vibration of molecules in the air as KC Flash moved? Pretty sure Genis wouldn't be fast enough to dodge shots from Gog's uber staff.

One: That wasn't KC Flash. That was Flash from another time.

Two: Genis can teleport by folding the dimensional boundaries and stepping inbetween them. He can also fold space. He can literally appear out of thin air. And has done so, several times, during his insane run alone.

And that would do absolutely nothing.

Gog traveled threw hypertime like he was Pc Superman 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
Gog traveled threw hypertime like he was Pc Superman 😐

Congrats to him?

Yeah just as pointless as Genis folding blankets to teleport.....

Originally posted by Enyalus
This much I know. But he states, and demonstrates (on the hologram) that he 'crushed' Eternity. And Epiphany, Entropy, and Rick - who were all there and present to witness, don't correct him. So, that's probably how it happened.

"While Entropy and I were busy ending everything":

Originally posted by Enyalus
It straight up says that it is powered by a dozen red suns. But besides that, doesn't matter - Genis can control and manipulate all energy types.

"The emerald Energy of the Guardians of the Universe"
"The Cosmic power of the Source"
"The magical might of Zeus and Shazam combined":

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ugh. Gog is not faster than the Flash.

Originally posted by Galan007

Really?:

Unless DD swatting a bullet with his club proves he's faster than the bullet.

Originally posted by Mindset
That didn't show he was faster than Flash.

Unless DD swatting a bullet with his club proves he's faster than the bullet.

Simply put, Genis won't be 'outspeeding' him. 🙂

What do you mean by outspeed him? If you mean Genis wont be faster than him, then you have yet to prove that, if you mean Gog while maybe not as fast as him can still keep track of him, then ok.

Also Genis may be able to use a method of travel that doesn't allow for Gog to predict his movement.

Originally posted by Mindset
What do you mean by outspeed him? If you mean Genis wont be faster than him, then you have yet to prove that, if you mean Gog while maybe not as fast as him can still keep track of him, then ok.

Hell, even when Rip stepped in between nanoseconds, Gog was still able to track, and disable him.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's why I said that speed will be a moot point on Genis' behalf, because it won't give him an edge.

Hell, even when Rip stepped in between nanoseconds, Gog was still able to track, and disable him.

So far I've seen a scan of him predicting were Flash would be and blasting him, not sure how that would translate in a hth fight.