Orion,Thor,Wonder Woman,Beta Ray Bill vs. Superman,Silver Surfer, Hal Jordan, Sentry

Originally posted by darthgoober
He knows that, Bada's already warned him a couple of times for continually citing the armbar as proof of Surfer having no super speed to speak of.

And Thanos has enhanced reflexes, but not actual super speed.

the surfer armbar is a very low showing, and isn't valid on the forum, anyone who disagrees? tough.

enhanced reflexes to what degree?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Thanos is a brick in every possible way, somone like DS can propel his body just as Orion can...SS has yet to display Supes/flash level h2h speed.

ds is fast enough to keep up with superman. that's not slow...

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well i agree with most of this ( though im not sure bill could take superman). The two real weak links in this match are diana and Sentry. Now if surfer goes after Diana, the smartest thing for team one would be for Thor to go after Sentry. Those two matches would finish fairly quickly. From there its pretty tough as to who would win. Maybe slight edge to team one.

The only reason that I give bill a good majority over superman is due to the fact that overrall he is considerably more powerful then superman and has proven that he can take almost anything that superman can dish out; hell the guy was fully awake when galactus hit him with his pimp hand, he basically crushed bill but it had no affect.

Lets not forget that bill damaged galactus, thats a feat that a lot of beings in marvel will never have under there belts. He also have a weapon that packs the hardest hits on the battle. With bill not holding back he should be able to take a decent majority over anyone on the opposing team.

Just my thoughts though.

Originally posted by Raoul
the surfer armbar is a very low showing, and isn't valid on the forum, anyone who disagrees? tough.

enhanced reflexes to what degree?

ds is fast enough to keep up with superman. that's not slow...

He can't fight at his speed however, not a lot of peeps can fight at the speed of supes,flash/Quicksilver and such.

Originally posted by carver9
The only reason that I give bill a good majority over superman is due to the fact that overrall he is considerably more powerful then superman and has proven that he can take almost anything that superman can dish out; hell the guy was fully awake when galactus hit him with his pimp hand, he basically crushed bill but it had no affect.

Lets not forget that bill damaged galactus, thats a feat that a lot of beings in marvel will never have under there belts. He also have a weapon that packs the hardest hits on the battle. With bill not holding back he should be able to take a decent majority over anyone on the opposing team.

Just my thoughts though.

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Originally posted by Raoul
the surfer armbar is a very low showing, and isn't valid on the forum, anyone who disagrees? tough.

enhanced reflexes to what degree?

Right on...

Pretty significantly. He's erected a force field to stop Thor's hammer after it was thrown(and I'm willing to bet it was one of Thor's better throws since he was facing off against Thanos), he's erected a forcefield to stop a bullrush from the Fallen One, dodged Surfer grabbing the IG off his hand when Surfer was doing over a thousand times lightspeed, and grabbed Mar-Vell out of mid air when Marv tried to blitz..

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh no no... it's your claim that Orion's faster, you start. This way I can post an appropriate feat of Surfer's to match it.

We can use people getting tagged by people who don't have Super speed as a signed of not having combat speed? 🤨

And does Combat Speed need to be punching fast 😬

Galen all the people you have listed rely on punching as there primary attacks.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
He can't fight at his speed however, not a lot of peeps can fight at the speed of supes,flash/Quicksilver and such.

you make quicksilver seem fast in comparison to flash and supes, when he's not. either man would leave him for dust, as would surfer... qs has very little if any feats showing him to have combat speed that impressive, imo...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Right on...

Pretty significantly. He's erected a force field to stop Thor's hammer after it was thrown(and I'm willing to bet it was one of Thor's better throws since he was facing off against Thanos), he's erected a forcefield to stop a bullrush from the Fallen One, dodged Surfer grabbing the IG off his hand when Surfer was doing over a thousand times lightspeed, and grabbed Mar-Vell out of mid air when Marv tried to blitz..

so he has good combat speed, right. so him being able to react to surfer or anyone else isn't a low showing, then?

Originally posted by carver9
bill not holding back he should be able to take a decent majority over anyone on the opposing team.

Just my thoughts though.

He can pull a few wins form Superman and Surfer but I don't see how he can get a majority with those two powerhouse

Originally posted by Raoul
so he has good combat speed, right. so him being able to react to surfer or anyone else isn't a low showing, then?

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's the way I and most others see it(Galen just likes to be difficult).

less with the name dropping... 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
less with the name dropping... 😛

Originally posted by carver9
The only reason that I give bill a good majority over superman is due to the fact that overrall he is considerably more powerful then superman and has proven that he can take almost anything that superman can dish out; hell the guy was fully awake when galactus hit him with his pimp hand, he basically crushed bill but it had no affect.

Lets not forget that bill damaged galactus, thats a feat that a lot of beings in marvel will never have under there belts. He also have a weapon that packs the hardest hits on the battle. With bill not holding back he should be able to take a decent majority over anyone on the opposing team.

Just my thoughts though.

Bill is pretty powerful no doubt about that, but i still dont see him getting a majority over superman and especially not surfer. Though he would give them a good fight.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Uh... I meant Galan007... yeah that's it. We're cool, he doesn't mind 😛 .

😂

i've been meaning to pm you, i don't know what happened lol..

Originally posted by Raoul
😂

i've been meaning to pm you, i don't know what happened lol..

Originally posted by darthgoober
Same here. I've been doing research out the wazoo and I haven't found the time to send you everything I have so far(lots to go over). But hopefully I'll pull it of sometime today or tomorrow...

i haven't typed a thing... 😮

i've just been going over picks and trying to work out which ones can benefit us the most...

Originally posted by Raoul
i haven't typed a thing... 😮

i've just been going over picks and trying to work out which ones can benefit us the most...

Originally posted by darthgoober
I've made a couple of discoveries that could be big if they pan out right... I'll definitely try to get them to you later. BTW do you know what the required number of appearances is?

ten, from what i've heard...

Originally posted by Raoul
ten, from what i've heard...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Damn that invalidates one of them but the other could still work...

no worries, there's tons to choose from...