Sephiroth vs. Ultimecia

I am saying she didn't absorb anything because nothing is seen to be absorbed, except maybe the white orb thingos that came out of the 'Ultimate GF'.

Nope. I watched the fight and first the white orbs rain down from the sky, then they disappear and the screen goes black.

She obviously wasn't and if you say she was and that Squall and co were only protected by 'willpower' or 'love and friendship' than Sephiroths 'Will' is stronger than both, allowing him to resist getting absorbed.

Taken from the game:

'There's only one way to make yourself exist in a world like that! As friends, don't forget one another! As friends, believe in one another! Believe in your friends' existence! And they'll also believe in yours. To be friends, to like one another, and to love one another... You can't do these things alone. You need somebody. Right, guys?.'

Does Sephiroth have any friends handy?

Why don't Squall and co get absorbed? Don't tell me love and friendship because that was used to protect from travelling through the Time Compression.

''There's only one way to make yourself exist in a world like that! As friends, don't forget one another! As friends, believe in one another! Believe in your friends' existence!'

So not only do you need to focus on friends, meaning you actually need friends judging by how its emphasised that you need to do all this 'as friends', but it seems like you need friends to focus on you as well. So..... I guess Sephiroth is out of luck.

You can see it wasn't, they are still standing on it.

😕 Are you sure you've played the game. Becuase they're clearly standing on absolutely nothing in the final part of the final fight. Which is what I assume you're talking about becuase thats when she starts absorbing stuff.

Oh man, sad that hurt my feelings. Why be so hurtful?

Given your ridiculous argument, that was the only thing I could think you'd be doing.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
lololol. Wow, pretty sure I know that. Well, I am fine with not denying how you said it there.
I know.

Well, since you know all of what I said, be thinking about not denying facts from the game. You still have to prove me that the Scan Spell is wrong and you're right.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
So you are saying that it was coincidental that Griever was just summoned at the same moment Time Compression destroyed the very castle they were in.

I'm not saying anything of that. I'm just aying Time Compression wasn't never stopped at that point. I suppose you also know this, right?

Originally posted by K1ll3r
If a Black Hole exists, yes.

You agree with me, then. She can absorb a Black Hole.

Well, I think Neph has pretty much covered many of my quotes, so I thik I'll reply only to these.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
R=U is an interesting concept, sadly it's most probably wrong.

Indeed. Absorbed in time != Ultimecia absorbing all of existence.

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Let's say she compressed time, could absorb all of time and space but 'Love and Friendship' or 'Willpower' could stop someone from being absorbed and protect from time compressed.

A. Sephiroths 'Will' is stronger than 'Love and Friendship' and thier 'Willpower'. (Going by feats of all things mentioned).
B. Time is compressed, meaning she can't stop\slow time.
C. Time manipulation is her only edge, Sephiroth wins.

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The fact of the matter is she never absorbed anything and She didn't have control over existence.

With that I'm sure you never actually read through any of the analysis in that link.

R=U theory was disproven and Ultimecia compressing time was proven using the Ultimania.

A. I don't think the PIS monster's name was "willpower" in FF8 that saved them.
B. Time is compressed meaning everything ceases to exist as well so why would she need to?
C. Time manipulation, pulling out creatures or anything from Sephiroth's mind to fight, her vasy array of magic she can use or create, such as a meteor stronger than the one sephiroth took weeks to summon just to injure a planet.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Well, since you know all of what I said, be thinking about not denying facts from the game. You still have to prove me that the Scan Spell is wrong and you're right.

If I may ask, did she ever fully compress time?

Take this example: I may say I'm going to build a castle. You may come up to me and see me working on building a castle. But, if I quit before I finish building the castle, then that means I cant claim that I built a castle, because I did not build it.

Same thing for Ultimecia compressing time. She may have been working at it, but if she did not do it, then it never happened.

I'm pretty sure that line of reasonings like saying, 'I've cast firaga, but since my fire spell didn't burn the enemy to ash, I never cast it.'

No, she never fully compressed time, but she cast the spell. Make of that what you will (cuz I'm too tired to do logicy stuffs).

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If I may ask, did she ever fully compress time?

Take this example: I may say I'm going to build a castle. You may come up to me and see me working on building a castle. But, if I quit before I finish building the castle, then that means I cant claim that I built a castle, because I did not build it.

Same thing for Ultimecia compressing time. She may have been working at it, but if she did not do it, then it never happened.

What are you trying to say here?
No, she never completed Time Compression.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If I may ask, did she ever fully compress time?

Take this example: I may say I'm going to build a castle. You may come up to me and see me working on building a castle. But, if I quit before I finish building the castle, then that means I cant claim that I built a castle, because I did not build it.

Same thing for Ultimecia compressing time. She may have been working at it, but if she did not do it, then it never happened.

Really, after all this time people talk about her casting it and time compression being able to end ALL existence except her, if she was defeated it wasn't finished.

Which doesn't change the fact that she did actually begin it during the battle.

Well, was there any lasting damage from her incomplete time compressing? Was the universe scarred in any way?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Well, was there any lasting damage from her incomplete time compressing? Was the universe scarred in any way?

All the Universe was serious damaged by her Time Compression.
When she was defeated, the Spelll reversed, that is all.

So, it did nothing. I see...

Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, it did nothing. I see...

It did nothing? What are you talking about?

No permanent damage.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
No permanent damage.

As far as I know, no. Although the things that were absorbed... No return for them to reality.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, it did nothing. I see...

Just like ganon with the full triforce?

That sounds like damage. 😕

Originally posted by LLLLLink
That sounds like damage. 😕

Don't you like Ultimecia, right?

I like her better than Kuja.

I meant in general.

Out of all the FF villains, she is in the upper half.

You haven't played any Final Fantasy game though. But that's ok. I guess you choose them by their look?