Kratos vs Dante

Started by Wil Deidara50 pages

I posted it in my last post. Just in case you didn't see it.

Originally posted by Gumachi
As for DEVIL ARMS only hurting Dante. Let's put it this way the only sword to actually hurt him was Yamato. We haven't seen anything BUT Yamato hurt him.

What makes you think that BoO won't hurt him. I heard it killed all of the Titans. Why not Dante though?

Besides I doubt it would hurt him physically =\(I guess)

It never killed the Titans. It just sealed them in Tartarus under Olympic power. Kinda funny how Artemis Blade slayed a Titan but The Blade didn't =\

And if this is DMC2 Dante you think The Blade could hurt him?

Originally posted by Gumachi
It never killed the Titans. It just sealed them in Tartarus under Olympic power. Kinda funny how Artemis Blade slayed a Titan but The Blade didn't =\

Well, Artemis Blade is based around pure strength, and BoO isn't. I heard differently.

But Artemis Blade was created from Artemis(?).

The Blade was created from Zeus big difference. And The Blade is bigger(I think) still though a blade like that killing an enourmous Titan?

The Blade was powerful enough kill Athena in 1 hit the most. And hurt Zeus atleast in the 1st two hits.

And it is based on pure strength

Well, I don't know everything. It is just what I heard.

Sorry dude but you heard a lie =\

Otherwise why was Atlas unchained(and alive)? Why was Gaia alive also(and the other Titans surronding her)?

And since Kratos is from Greek Days. He wouldn't know what a gun could do(or the power of it). There's not telling what he think a gun would be.

Same goes from Eurayle's rage(maybe) but Dante can be far from him and attack Krato's with Pandora(or Spiral Swords). Or use Trickster and move around Krato's/run around Kratos(like Zeus did).

Atlas Quake--He can jump up in the air or go far away(Like the fight with Zeus)

Cronos' Rage--I doubt it would hurt him but just in case he can go DT.

Typhon's Bow--Dante can either counter with Artemis or use his Royal Guard.

I might do the same Dante's weapons(idk).

Originally posted by Gumachi
And since Kratos is from Greek Days. He wouldn't know what a gun could do(or the power of it). There's not telling what he think a gun would be.

Same goes from Eurayle's rage(maybe) but Dante can be far from him and attack Krato's with Pandora(or Spiral Swords). Or use Trickster and move around Krato's/run around Kratos(like Zeus did).

Atlas Quake--He can jump up in the air or go far away(Like the fight with Zeus).

Cronos' Rage--I doubt it would hurt him..Why? Because he got impaled by Alastor(Devil/God Sword/Thunder/Lighting God/Devil)and didn't get hurt.

Typhon's Bow--Dante can either counter with Artemis or use his Royal Guard. And use E&I. Or use Nevan's magic protective sheilds and/or Cerberus magic shields

I might do the same Dante's weapons(idk).

And shots from The Blade--RoyalGuard(Just Release)releasing all the energy killing Kratos.

Originally posted by Gumachi
2.?

3.Your the one who doesn't believe me

4.Where does he say he can't be burned or bones broken? Mundus has no bones to break and I doubt he can be burned. Why didn't he step on Kratos?

6."it says it can cut through anything human made" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fingvpD35DE

7.So he still defeated it.

8.Zeus isn't the most powerful video game chracter. What can Zeus beat Goku next? And he has.

9.It's just big like I said.

10.Mortal weapons? Dante FORGED(forges)his Demon Power into his weapons. Zeus was hurt by rocks. If not why did Krato's do it twice? Why didn't he just rush The Blade in his stomach?

11.So he must've not been much then

12.Prove to me he will be stepped on and die then. You keep doging my question why did Zeus just step on Kratos. And we haven't seen much of Mundus of what he can do. He atleast made a demention by flapping his wings(whatever he did)

13.I was talking Greek Myth.

14.Anime? Just like Zeus' weak bolts. They only get hurt by Demonic Beings. Which is why Lady's bullets didn't harm him. King of Olympus is a title because if he is THAT powerful he would've destoryed Kratos in 123. And why did The Blade kill Athena then? It was revealed in the anime the only way to kill Dante is to rip out his heart with a Devil Arm. And why didn't his Arrows hurt him the other times then?

15.So? How can he stone him if he does Devil Trigger?

16.So? Where does it says it's stone?

17.RoyalGuard W/Dreadnought Armor can or hell he can just jump up in the air(and fly)

18.If that's in the case he didn't have help. She just gave him her power that's all. That's in the case Krato's had help. Like Gaia/Ares/Zeus helped him.

19.

20.Prove to me it can? Why didn't the sickles kill him then? Demigods doesn't mean anything. Kratos was nonething more than a human until he traded his souls to Ares. And he forges his power into the weapons. So no Mortal weapons can't hurt them. And E&I isn't a Mortal's Weapon. Nightmare isn't And the RL rarely hurts him and he doesn't show in affection. Mortal weapons can't hurt Mundus because you can't equip the shotgun.

21.He isn't a Mortal otherwise the sickles would have hurt him.

22.How can he hit a shadow? Exactly he can't.

How can he step Gilgames & Pandora(A Giant Lasor Cannon--extra weapons). Sparda=God if Sparda was a God the other Demon Kings had to be as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dpDLBRe8VI and if Dante defeated Sparda he has power of a God(something like that). And has gotten stabbed by Alastor(A GOD'S SWORD)and got right back up.

Kratos carries the title of "God"(or DemiGod).

But, in terms of gameplay, the demons Dante faces are clearly more agressive and fast than those mithology creatures Kratos faces.

They are diferent games. Kratos killed an Hidra, but Echidna, from DMC4, is a lot more dangerous (in a direct comparison) than the Hidra.

And the Zeus featured in the game is not as extravagant as Mundus in DMC1.

In words, "Gods" are bigger than "demons", but, in terms of gameplay, GOW "gods" are not like DMC "demons".

Dante's demonic energies that harm his foes through his guns.

Dante killed the most powerful evil God to exist(I don't see how Zues is any different).

3. I know, so you have to go and find the information I need and actually put it in this thread, like a video or something

4. Ares says Gods in GOW cant be burned or broken. Why? because either A: he didnt want to, or B: kratos just happened to be on a mountain at the time...

6. just as I just said.....so you just confirmed you were lieing....

7. Nero defeated it by destroying its controller, the old man inside...Dante kept it occupied..

8. no i never said Zeus was the most powerful Video game character, but hes far beyond anything Dante has beaten.

9. And stronger than anything Dante has hit by...like I said..

10. He does, if youve played the game Kratos impaled zeus everytime he gets the chance to push the stone pillars on top of Zeus...

11. yeh he wasnt, neither was Dante before he got any of his powers....then again, this isnt the Kratos in this thread, this is the strongest version..

12. Exactley weve seen nothing of Mundus, so...what makes you think he can survive being stepped on? nothing....blind fanboyism thats what and thats not what makes any diffrence in this thread ime afraid....Mundus would be destroyed.

13. Well dont, its irrelvent, only stuff in the games are relvent, read the rules.

14. Theres nothing that proves they are only hurt by demonic beings, all ladies bullet not huiting dante proves is that he can survive bullets, thats it...they pierced his body though.

15. Devil trigger would be stoned as well..no diffrence

16. You can see its stone, it crumbles like stone.

17. No it cannot, and jump up in the air? lol....that doesnt help....

18. She didnt give him her power, wtf you talking about....she actually fought besides him you goon lol

20. Hes always been a Demi-God. You can equip the rocket launcher....but nothing states mortal weapons cant hurt Munudus anyway lol.....your going about this completly the wrong way, you HAVE TO PROVE MUNDUS CANNOT BE HARMED BY MORTAL WEAPONS..

21. Mortal and Demi-God/immortal is a title, the reason the sickles dont hurt him would be just because their extremely weak....its nothing to do with him not being able to age...

22. but he can hit the real dante...

what the bloody hell? Sparda was NEVER a God at all, he was just a soldier, the DARK KNIGHT Sparda....he wasnt a God, you have no idea about DMC do you?

Dante didnt kill the most powerful evil god to excist...he defeated Mundus, a pathetic whelp compared to GOW and the embodiment of depsiar.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Besides I doubt it would hurt him physically =\(I guess)

It never killed the Titans. It just sealed them in Tartarus under Olympic power. Kinda funny how Artemis Blade slayed a Titan but The Blade didn't =\

And if this is DMC2 Dante you think The Blade could hurt him?

lol a blade that can wipe out armise wont kill one little devil man? lmao.....your unbelivably short sighted...its far more powerful than all of DMC weapons..

true, one of the few things you said that was true....

The blade would disintigrate him like it would any dante

Originally posted by Gumachi
And since Kratos is from Greek Days. He wouldn't know what a gun could do(or the power of it). There's not telling what he think a gun would be.

Same goes from Eurayle's rage(maybe) but Dante can be far from him and attack Krato's with Pandora(or Spiral Swords). Or use Trickster and move around Krato's/run around Kratos(like Zeus did).

Atlas Quake--He can jump up in the air or go far away(Like the fight with Zeus)

Cronos' Rage--I doubt it would hurt him but just in case he can go DT.

Typhon's Bow--Dante can either counter with Artemis or use his Royal Guard.

I might do the same Dante's weapons(idk).

He wouldnt need to know would he...Dante wouldnt know what half the magic powers Kratos has either...

You just said Dante wouldnt know so why would he fight from range? most of his range weapons are weak anyway..

Cronos' rage would stun and electrocute Dante, he would die...

Originally posted by Burning thought
He wouldnt need to know would he...Dante wouldnt know what half the magic powers Kratos has either...

You just said Dante wouldnt know so why would he fight from range? most of his range weapons are weak anyway..

Cronos' rage would stun and electrocute Dante, he would die...

No just no. Nevan? Alastor? Krato's has lighting too.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Doesn't mean it will hurt him. Why doesn't the sun hurt Doppleganger? And It posseses Dante(it's his shadow). Before he defeated it, it was just a normal shadow.

How?

mean the power resides in the mirrors. Which mean his true time powers can only be used while he's inside the mirror.

What last argument?(Not in a rude way)but honestly i'm getting tired of this Kratos vs Dante thing and it's not getting anyware.

Yes it does.

Go back a few pages and reread our whole arguement. thats how.

Go back a couple pages, i think page 4 or 5 when you first started arguing against bt. To you its not getting there, since you keep going in circles. But for me it seems like im doing my job 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
3. I know, so you have to go and find the information I need and actually put it in this thread, like a video or something

4. Ares says Gods in GOW cant be burned or broken. Why? because either A: he didnt want to, or B: kratos just happened to be on a mountain at the time...

6. just as I just said.....so you just confirmed you were lieing....

7. Nero defeated it by destroying its controller, the old man inside...Dante kept it occupied..

8. no i never said Zeus was the most powerful Video game character, but hes far beyond anything Dante has beaten.

9. And stronger than anything Dante has hit by...like I said..

10. He does, if youve played the game Kratos impaled zeus everytime he gets the chance to push the stone pillars on top of Zeus...

11. yeh he wasnt, neither was Dante before he got any of his powers....then again, this isnt the Kratos in this thread, this is the strongest version..

12. Exactley weve seen nothing of Mundus, so...what makes you think he can survive being stepped on? nothing....blind fanboyism thats what and thats not what makes any diffrence in this thread ime afraid....Mundus would be destroyed.

13. Well dont, its irrelvent, only stuff in the games are relvent, read the rules.

14. Theres nothing that proves they are only hurt by demonic beings, all ladies bullet not huiting dante proves is that he can survive bullets, thats it...they pierced his body though.

15. Devil trigger would be stoned as well..no diffrence

16. You can see its stone, it crumbles like stone.

17. No it cannot, and jump up in the air? lol....that doesnt help....

18. She didnt give him her power, wtf you talking about....she actually fought besides him you goon lol

20. Hes always been a Demi-God. You can equip the rocket launcher....but nothing states mortal weapons cant hurt Munudus anyway lol.....your going about this completly the wrong way, you [b]HAVE TO PROVE MUNDUS CANNOT BE HARMED BY MORTAL WEAPONS..

21. Mortal and Demi-God/immortal is a title, the reason the sickles dont hurt him would be just because their extremely weak....its nothing to do with him not being able to age...

22. but he can hit the real dante...

what the bloody hell? Sparda was NEVER a God at all, he was just a soldier, the DARK KNIGHT Sparda....he wasnt a God, you have no idea about DMC do you?

Dante didnt kill the most powerful evil god to excist...he defeated Mundus, a pathetic whelp compared to GOW and the embodiment of depsiar.

lol a blade that can wipe out armise wont kill one little devil man? lmao.....your unbelivably short sighted...its far more powerful than all of DMC weapons..

true, one of the few things you said that was true....

The blade would disintigrate him like it would any dante [/B]

3.About what because I forgot

4.Show me a vid. I never heard him say that.

6.You said it can cut thru anything human made. Beowulf wasn't a human. It can cut thru Krato's head if he so desires.

7.Then why did it drop when Dante stacked up the bullets on eachother?

8.No

9.Maybe

10.He still could've rushed The Blade inside him probably killing him the 2nd time

11.Dante was born with his real powers. Maybe Krato's was too.

12.What makes you think he will die?

13.Meh

14.He survived lighting.

15.Prove to me.

16.Meh. How can you Stone a spirtual form?

17.Yes. Eurayle's Rage can only go so far in range in the air(i'm not talking Harpies height).

18.Not she didn't she just gave him her power(inside his E&I guns)so he could seal him.

20.Like I said. DANTE puts his power inside the demonic weapons.

21.Being weak has nonething to do with not hurting him. Either way it was Mortal's weapons and didn't effect him.

22.True. BUT the only thing that MIGHT be able to hurt Doppleganger is Hades' Souls. Besides who said he's close? And the DG could be hitting Kratos.

23.Okay then why did Arkaham say the power of a God the power of Sparda then?

24.He killed Argosax. Where does it say he DIDN'T KILL HIM? And how do you know he didn't? Krato's never killed fate--But defeated them(except Clotho). Argosax ruled the humans(I think).

25.So? It wiped out. It never killed the Titans. Besides Dante is too fast to even get impaled. And who said he will be able to wipe him out? All he would do is put him in Tartarus(if he did). And Dante could just cut thru a demention.

26.Same as above.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Yes it does.

Go back a few pages and reread our whole arguement. thats how.

Go back a couple pages, i think page 4 or 5 when you first started arguing against bt. To you its not getting there, since you keep going in circles. But for me it seems like im doing my job 😉

Then why couldn't Nevan(Lighting)hurt Doppleganger?

Okay =\ I saw it.

If Dante can drop Argosax (see: "The most powerful evil deity to ever exist"😉 with one round, then how is one to honestly argue that he won't just pop one in Kratos' pretty, bald face and let that be the end of it?

Because there's a fine line between sharing name and sharing identity. Devil May Cry's the former, God of War's the latter.

As for fire not hurting Dante http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2NAmfFe30o

Dante can throw 100 blades in Krato's face killing him(which they explode)

"There are two scenes, actually, with Capcom's factual backing, in DMC3 where Vergil slashes clean through Dante's arm, but the healing power inherent in their demon blood is so fast-acting that before the wounds could even bleed, the arm had been reattached, and Vergil's sword moves pretty quick, so Kratos would have to get extremely inventive if he wanted to dismember Dante, or Vergil for that matter; assuming he made it that close in the first place ... "

Originally posted by Gumachi
3.About what because I forgot

4.Show me a vid. I never heard him say that.

6.You said it can cut thru anything human made. Beowulf wasn't a human. It can cut thru Krato's head if he so desires.

7.Then why did it drop when Dante stacked up the bullets on eachother?

8.No

9.Maybe

10.He still could've rushed The Blade inside him probably killing him the 2nd time

11.Dante was born with his real powers. Maybe Krato's was too.

12.What makes you think he will die?

13.Meh

14.He survived lighting.

15.Prove to me.

16.Meh. How can you Stone a spirtual form?

17.Yes. Eurayle's Rage can only go so far in range in the air(i'm not talking Harpies height).

18.Not she didn't she just gave him her power(inside his E&I guns)so he could seal him.

20.Like I said. DANTE puts his power inside the demonic weapons.

21.Being weak has nonething to do with not hurting him. Either way it was Mortal's weapons and didn't effect him.

22.True. BUT the only thing that MIGHT be able to hurt Doppleganger is Hades' Souls. Besides who said he's close? And the DG could be hitting Kratos.

23.Okay then why did Arkaham say the power of a God the power of Sparda then?

24.He killed Argosax. Where does it say he DIDN'T KILL HIM? And how do you know he didn't? Krato's never killed fate--But defeated them(except Clotho). Argosax ruled the humans(I think).

25.So? It wiped out. It never killed the Titans. Besides Dante is too fast to even get impaled. And who said he will be able to wipe him out? All he would do is put him in Tartarus(if he did). And Dante could just cut thru a demention.

26.Same as above.

3. i dont really care anymore, its your argument, if youve forgotten your own argument then its not important to me is it, its important to you lol

4. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jRzAPucTjF0&feature=related

at the beginning "flesh that burns, bones that break" refers to a god not being able to feel such things.

6, Not really, not unless you can prove it has the ability to....And yeh, it can cut through anytihng human made, Beowulf not being human made doesnt change that though, just shows Beowulf isnt strong enough to survive the attack....

7. Because it was weakened ,you obviously have not played the game...both Nero and Dante fight the saviour again AFTER that level.

8. who has Dante beaten thats greater? canonically?

9. theres no maybe about it....Dante has not been hit by anything that strong

10. Well what Kratos chooses to do is part of the story....

11. Dante didnt have half of the power before he gained it throughout the game, like DT, and most of his weapons nad powers.

12. Because hes far smaller than Zeus and has not taken punishment of being crushed before so theres nothing to say he would survive.

13. No meh about it, their the rules....

14. Show me a video please

15. I dont have to, because its your character were talking about, anytihng that has to be proven about your character is YOURS TO PROVE, YOU have to prove he could survive being stoned or is resistent.

16. The saviour isnt a spirit and neither is Dante....

17. Dante wouldnt know when Kratos does it he has to flee so would he? Dante would still be fighting, it doesnt make sense to think that as soon as Kratos uses the Euryales head he would suddenly be miles away, thats impossible and illogical.

18. They both fought Mundus and both fired jacpot.

20. so? and nothing says he put his power into the rocket launcher, only Ebony and Ivory. The machine gun, shotgun and others in DMC2 are not magical for instance.

21. But thats not proof NO mortal weapon can harm him...and you lied, Ladies weapon pierced his flesh in DMC 3 furthermore he was only hit by little pistols, nothing bigger.

22. If the DG can hit Kratos then why cannot Kratos hit DG?

23. Show me the video of it....

Also Arkham was a madman, misinformed, if you read the storyline, the great temple tirimagu tower is, worshiped demons LIKE Gods, not that they were gods, furthermore the true story of Sparda has alreayd been told by Mundus and Dante in DMC 1, that he was just a dark knight of the demon armies.

24. Because he was Despair embodied, you cannot kill an emotion....that was just a physical form, he didnt actually kill Despair....either way it is really weak...

25. No thats what it did to titans, ime talking about what it did to the soldiers, it splattered them in GOW 2....

Originally posted by Gumachi
Not to mention Dante could kill Zeus. Kratos is a Mortal and he almost defeated Zeus. Dante WOULD defeat Zeus.

Dante could probably beat Zeus.

Kratos would have killed him if it wasn't for Athena.

Originally posted by Burning thought
3. i dont really care anymore, its your argument, if youve forgotten your own argument then its not important to me is it, its important to you lol

4. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jRzAPucTjF0&feature=related

at the beginning "flesh that burns, bones that break" refers to a god not being able to feel such things.

6, Not really, not unless you can prove it has the ability to....And yeh, it can cut through anytihng human made, Beowulf not being human made doesnt change that though, just shows Beowulf isnt strong enough to survive the attack....

7. Because it was weakened ,you obviously have not played the game...both Nero and Dante fight the saviour again AFTER that level.

8. who has Dante beaten thats greater? canonically?

9. theres no maybe about it....Dante has not been hit by anything that strong

10. Well what Kratos chooses to do is part of the story....

11. Dante didnt have half of the power before he gained it throughout the game, like DT, and most of his weapons nad powers.

12. Because hes far smaller than Zeus and has not taken punishment of being crushed before so theres nothing to say he would survive.

13. No meh about it, their the rules....

14. Show me a video please

15. I dont have to, because its your character were talking about, anytihng that has to be proven about your character is [b]YOURS TO PROVE, YOU have to prove he could survive being stoned or is resistent.

16. The saviour isnt a spirit and neither is Dante....

17. Dante wouldnt know when Kratos does it he has to flee so would he? Dante would still be fighting, it doesnt make sense to think that as soon as Kratos uses the Euryales head he would suddenly be miles away, thats impossible and illogical.

18. They both fought Mundus and both fired jacpot.

20. so? and nothing says he put his power into the rocket launcher, only Ebony and Ivory. The machine gun, shotgun and others in DMC2 are not magical for instance.

21. But thats not proof NO mortal weapon can harm him...and you lied, Ladies weapon pierced his flesh in DMC 3 furthermore he was only hit by little pistols, nothing bigger.

22. If the DG can hit Kratos then why cannot Kratos hit DG?

23. Show me the video of it....

Also Arkham was a madman, misinformed, if you read the storyline, the great temple tirimagu tower is, worshiped demons LIKE Gods, not that they were gods, furthermore the true story of Sparda has alreayd been told by Mundus and Dante in DMC 1, that he was just a dark knight of the demon armies.

24. Because he was Despair embodied, you cannot kill an emotion....that was just a physical form, he didnt actually kill Despair....either way it is really weak...

25. No thats what it did to titans, ime talking about what it did to the soldiers, it splattered them in GOW 2.... [/B]

3.Well I must've been right

4.He was not talking about Gods. And you have no direct proof he was talking about Gods.

6.It can still cut thru Krato's head.

7.So? It still was defeated.

8.Greater than Kratos? If so Berial.

9.He knocked down a giant statue.

10.Meh

11.No. Ares gave him powers. Dante was born with his powers he said it himself

12.You do know they have superstrength? He can just throw him off. And who said he is gonna turn giant? Why didn't he just do that with the Titans or just crush Kratos?(which you haven't answered yet). Zeus is nonething because he was put to deepsleep.

13.I can meh if I desire.

14.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex298FW93Lg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_rzIftuscE&feature=related
^@1:45-1:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_1kETIVweo

15.He can take WAYYY more damage. And it wouldn't hurt him.

16.Never said he was. And Devil Trigger is.

17.He can be out of reach of Eurayle's Rage and attack him with Lucifer(Blades)

18.WRONG(that happened to DMC3 to Arkaham). Jackpot to Mundus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Agrz4bW9c&feature=related

20.Then explain the infinite ammo.

21.Another Mortal's weapon that didn't effect him. And he made Lady shoot him in the stomach and it didn't hurt him

22.Because he can't simple as that.

23.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dpDLBRe8VI
^@7:19-7:23

24.Actually he did. That was his true form.

25.Oh. That can probably be avoided.

Dante can throw 100 Blades in Krato's Face(Lucifer)making them explode killing him.