Elektra vs Blade

Started by snoopdogg77 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is what a top tier street looks like.

This is what Blade looks like against the same unit and the same amount of SHIELD Agents.

Not hard to see the difference. A top tier street like Cap owns ass, while Blade goes down like a chump to a single round. Elektra - like Cap - is at the top of the street level pyramid. Blade doesn't stand a chance he doesn't have to stuff to compeat with someone like Elektra.

Wow, you really didn't read Blade's last series. His stories were called done in ones, Guggenheim stated he focused more on story than action due to only having 22 pages to work with.

Nice try though.

Originally posted by Mindset
He does?
Absoulely. He's knocked out a berserker Spiderman, not sure why people think Elektra wouldn't be able to handle him.

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
only way Elektra wins. Is if Blade is drunk, blindfolded, ues onl his left hand and has no weapons. Than maybe I could see Elektra winning
That's possible.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wow, you really didn't read Blade's last series. His stories were called done in ones, Guggenheim stated he focused more on story than action due to only having 22 pages to work with.

Nice try though.

Oh, and BTW if you actually read the scans the only reason Blade lost was becasue he hesitated.

Originally posted by jinzin
😂 the sheer fact that you think I need to know the specific ratio to prove she's stronger when she's sending a hand through two layers of kevlar is absurd.

She's either incredibly strong or better than Bullseye when it comes to projectile work. You pick.

And yet here you are.

IF I was trying to make an argument for that, the sai throw wouldn't be the pillar of said argument.. no.

Funny how those posters where limited to three people who are DD fans. One of which uses DD as his username no less. Yeah the only thing taken out of context was the insinuation that Matt having sex with a girl a bit before the fight somehow made him a terrible fighter when it began. Of course you haven't read the arc so OF COURSE you automatically side with anything anyone BUT a Wolverine fan is going to say whether it's about Wolverine or not. You're more transparent than glass and have only half as much wit.

Yeah, no it's not. They're both jumping straight into the air, and if it was, Blade is losing in that exchange since his back is at an angle towards the ground. It doesn't have anything to do with strength. What a weak ass argument.

Yet you're arguing that the skill in such a feat takes precedence over the strength. It's dumb.

LMAO see you're so investing in arguing against Wolverine fans you'll even argue FOR Wolverine against them. wow... just... wow.

Yeah there's also another fight where she stabs him in the heart and leaves him for dead.

Yeah, no he didn't.

Wasn't this a discussion about Elektra's skill level? 😕

The fact is that you think it's a feat worth discarding to her strength simply because skill was involved, which ignores the obvious..

Don't have to.

😐


Scans? Since we've seen YOUR attempt at "holding off".

Doesnt matter anyway. The points I raised in reply to srank explain why Elektra is not neccesarily betaing Blade.

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
I do not know where to begin with you. In a straight up fight Spidey would take DD, without any PIS. Elektra would do nothing to Spiderman. bringing this up is even more absurd. Next you will be telling me she can take down Wolverine too! 😆 😆 😆

Uh, I don't really disagree... but you people are saying that Blade took on a berserker Spiderman and Elektra wouldn't have a chance of doing that, when she would have more than a chance based on FACTS... you know, the things team Blade likes to ignore on the daily. 😬

In a straight up fight with no PIS Blade wouldn't likely be much of a threat to Spiderman either... Spiderman being a vampire and not having any Spidersense while fighting Blade in a Blade comic? Yeah, you want to rattle on about PIS do ya? Way I remember it, the last time Blade tried to get in a level headed Spiderman's way, he got his ass webbed up rather handily.
ridiculous self serving bias.. that's all this argument's even about.

She.... has. 😕

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
Have you visited Blade's respect thread or even read a few of his comics. Saying he is peak human is laughable.
He's making the statement based on feats...

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
Elektra has more feats than Blade that is granted, but none of her feats (except like coming back from the dead) show she is more skilled in any aspect than Blade.
Except practically all of her feats of skill. 😕

Originally posted by Battlehammer
and I am secretely......cres sock account.

You wish.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wow, you really didn't read Blade's last series. His stories were called done in ones, Guggenheim stated he focused more on story than action due to only having 22 pages to work with.

Nice try though.


doh

Originally posted by jinzin

In a straight up fight with no PIS Blade wouldn't likely be much of a threat to Spiderman either... Spiderman being a vampire and not having any Spidersense while fighting Blade in a Blade comic? Yeah, you want to rattle on about PIS do ya? Way I remember it, the last time Blade tried to get in a level headed Spiderman's way, he got his ass webbed up rather handily.
ridiculous self serving bias.. that's all this argument's even about.

😆 Rediculous self serving bias?

Are you aware that Blade wasn't a daywalker yet when that fight happened? And are you aware that Spider-Man blindsided Blade in that fight? Are you being biased a little maybe?

😆

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Oh, and BTW if you actually read the scans the only reason Blade lost was becasue he hesitated.

LOOK BLADE BEATEN UP SOME THUGS!!! ZOMGOD BLADE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN ELEKTRA!!!(That is what Team Wolverine sounds like)

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I had a look at your respect thread but [b]Blade feats as a whole are better than Elektras because a big majority is against humans.

You might argue that Vampires are barely peak human but they are better than humans. Lets have a look at the evidence.

A bunch of vampire thugs take out human thugs.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeandPunisherhelp.jpg

Sage takes down Spiderman

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey2.jpg

A normal vampires sneaks up on BP.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeandBP.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeandBP2.jpg

This feat from Blade outstrips a big majority of the feats in your respect thread.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladefast.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladejumpin.jpg

Those aren't just vampires those are highly trained vampires with hi-tech machine guns. Look what they says 'he moves like lightning'. So Blade is so fast superhumans can have a problem getting a bead on him.

Highly-trained vampires > Mercs.

Furthermore you dont even have any proof that Elektra can beat any top tiers.

That just simply proves that Elektra can sneak up on DD...fail

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Skill/?action=view&current=Elektra_Skill_Daredevil_v1_175_08.jpg

"Dulled by pain Dardevils hyper-senses fail to detect the mysterious figure..." ...Fail

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=Elektra_Fights_Daredevil_168-04.jpg

Another fight that DD has with Elektra involves CIS.. "He wants to hold her to kiss her, to caress her.. to make every prt of her soft and loving"... hes obvously in love with her and that affected his ability to fight...CIS...fail.

The only proof you have is this, and im not even sure if thats enough considering that they have history.

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=Elektra_Fights_Daredevil_v2_078_05.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=Elektra_Fights_Daredevil_v2_078_06.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=Elektra_Fights_Daredevil_168-05.jpg

In fact she still can't beat Bullseyes after her upgrade and the only reason why she won was because Bullseye wanted to kill her slowly.

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=Elektra_Fights_Elektra_v1_02_14.jpg

Bulleyes isn't even top tier and Punisher has beaten Bullseye TWICE in h2h.

Furthermore Blade has looked good against an opponent that took out Morbius easily.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/BladevsDeaconBVH.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/BladevsDeaconBVH2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/BladevsDeaconBVH3.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/BladevsDeaconBVH4.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/BladevsDeaconBVH5.jpg

Morbius has a good record against Spiderman and Spiderman has a good records against top tier martial artists.

hes also looked good against Spitfire whos looked good against the master man, guys that were giving Cap and Union Jack trouble.

http://d.imagehost.org/view/0884/CBMI13_6_Oroboros_DCP_013.jpg
http://d.imagehost.org/view/0691/CBMI13_6_Oroboros_DCP_014.jpg

Thats your problem you THINK you're always right before you even started to debate so instead of looking at the information displayed objectively you twist it around to suit your own personl view, anybody can do that if they try hard enough.

Hell if Blade had blocked SS sword strike you'd say something like " Its not a strength feat or skill feats its durability. SS isnt capable of destroying Blades sword in one blow so Blade is simply resting his sword on his body."

I mean if you're going to use this to prove that Nightwing is stronger than Blade you need your head examined.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6808/year1996throwsafridgetoenemies.gif

Hell I think you even tried to use this.

http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999throwskgbeastlikenothi.gif

Sranks debating = Pick any feat that a character has done and assume that its better than anything Blade has done.

LOOK NIGHTWING BEATEN UP SOME THUGS!!! ZOMGOD NIGHTWING IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN BLADE!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/NightwingHush.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/NightwingHush2.jpg [/B]

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is what a top tier street looks like.

This is what Blade looks like against the same unit and the same amount of SHIELD Agents.

Not hard to see the difference. A top tier street like Cap owns ass, while Blade goes down like a chump to a single round. Elektra - like Cap - is at the top of the street level pyramid. Blade doesn't stand a chance he doesn't have to stuff to compeat with someone like Elektra.

....wow...ok, yo usee the difference is, captain america was armed, Blade was doing fine however he neglected use his weapons since he didn't want to use his weaponary and kill them. or did you not read how blade managed to take outan entire hellicarrier of SHIELD agents in the first issue. It's called PIS they needed someway to bring in Blade.

Originally posted by Trackz
....wow...ok, yo usee the difference is, captain america was armed, Blade was doing fine however he neglected use his weapons since he didn't want to use his weaponary and kill them. or did you not read how blade managed to take outan entire hellicarrier of SHIELD agents in the first issue. It's called PIS they needed someway to bring in Blade.
Yea, and in that same issue where he didn't want to hurt humans he fought Wolverine..............

Originally posted by jinzin
Absoulely. He's knocked out a berserker Spiderman, not sure why people think Elektra wouldn't be able to handle him.
a vampiric spiderman, who was in his right mind as stated. He went to kill blade and lost.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
A vampire's strength doesn't factor into the equation at all. A vampires durability against blades isn't greater than a humans by much if at all. A vampires speed doesn't factor into the equation because he was in midair which means he is unable to alter his momentum / trajectory and is at the mercy of gravity until he lands.

The vampire landed and instantly feel apart. The guy Elektra was intact for much longer. The time it took for Punisher to walk across the room was much longer than the time Blade's vampire stayed intact... and Punisher didn't enter the room and make a B line straight towards him. He gave the room a once over, and inspected the crime scene, when he first noticed the man he stopped and pointed a gun at him before he actually walked towards him and picked him off the ground before he fell apart (he was still intact in the air for a few seconds). He stayed intact long enough for Punisher to say "Balbo?" "What happened here?" and "Knock it off!" And we don't even know how long ago Elektra actually happened to have carved him up, even if it happened the very instant before Punisher entered the room (unlikely since it stands to reason he would have heard the scuffle) he still would have been in one piece for 30-40 seconds (minimum), where as Blade's vampire fell apart the moment he hit the ground.


...did you read the issue at all? The vampire was sliced up and then landed, he looked at himself, then at blade shocked then proceeded to fall apart. There is also no time frame in the punishers instance however in elektras case she performed this on an immobile target, Blades case the target was leaping at him, and landed recognized they'd been killed, stared at blade in shock then fell apart...I'd hardly call that "the moment he hit the ground"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Elektra is faster, exponentially more skilled and can read Blade's every thought and action. She would systematically amputate everyone of Blade's limbs without getting hit... and that's if she wants a bit of sport, if not she lops off his head or ribs his heart out with her bare hands. It wouldn't even be a good warm up for a real fight against someone of merit.
She isn't faster, that hasn't been proven, she isn't more skilled, Blade is a master of several forms of martial art as well as a master of every single weapon known to man, elektra may be as skilled, she is not more skilled.

Originally posted by Trackz
She isn't faster, that hasn't been proven, she isn't more skilled, Blade is a master of several forms of martial art as well as a master of every single weapon known to man, elektra may be as skilled, she is not more skilled.

Elektra is a marvel top tier. 🙂

Originally posted by Warrior18
Elektra is a marvel top tier. 🙂

Izit? Then why did she get her arse kicked by Bullseye.....AGAIN.

Originally posted by Warrior18
Elektra is a marvel top tier. 🙂
this should mean what? Blade is armed with the several weapons he carries on them, he is a master of all of them.