Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?

Lycanthrope, you're a moron. The Jewish people do function as a part of a race that composes of them and Arabs. Middle-eastern. But Judaism does function as an essential race in history. Maybe not entirely biologically, but if you look throughout history, the Jews functioned as their own independent race.

You call me a moron but yet you back my point ???? Its not Biological? "Composes of them and Arabs"??? They chose to call them selves a race as you say "Jews function as their own independent race"

So there was a lot of incest?

SYMMETRIC CHAOS, why are you so condescending to someone who is trying to understand something sincerely?

And how can the Jews consider themselves a different race when they stem from the same Father? Seriously.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
You call me a moron but yet you back my point ???? Its not Biological? "Composes of them and Arabs"??? They chose to call them selves a race as you say "Jews function as their own independent race"

So there was a lot of incest?

Incest isn't necessarily cousin sex. The Jews were a very large community- all of them were related to the same ancestors, but that doesn't mean they were fall family. By your logic, inbreeding between black people is incest because they all originate from Africans.

So, yes, inbreeding was the common form of reproduction (plus having a ton of kids). Breeding with other religions was relatively rare. Most Jews were very religiously uptight- which explains the maintaining of religion as an extremely important part of life.

Also, I've used dictionary definitions to prove that the Jews are a race.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
You call me a moron but yet you back my point ???? Its not Biological? "Composes of them and Arabs"??? They chose to call them selves a race as you say "Jews function as their own independent race"

So there was a lot of incest?

SYMMETRIC CHAOS, why are you so condescending to someone who is trying to understand something sincerely?

And how can the Jews consider themselves a different race when they stem from the same Father? Seriously.

You're arguing this? Seriously? You understand that the word Aryan, has been used throughout history to distinguish one people or another as a race seperate from the Jewish race. By using that word, you are validating that which you are arguing against. How about this, you're an oxymoron. Is that a race? I'm just trying to understand. Sincerely.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Exactly. And I don't understand why we can't covert to other races. If I want to be black my genetic history should change to reflect that fact just as it does when people convert to Judaism.

I want to convert to Asian. I'm thinking oriental, possibly Korean...I have a thing for Korean.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I want to convert to Asian. I'm thinking oriental, possibly Korean...I have a thing for Korean.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
SYMMETRIC CHAOS, why are you so condescending to someone who is trying to understand something sincerely?

And how can the Jews consider themselves a different race when they stem from the same Father? Seriously.

LYCANTHROPE, because I'm an ******* and being condescending is how I compensate for my stunted emotional development.

I don't consider the Judaism a race. You can convert to Judaism you can't convert to Mexican. There are, however, associated groups and ancestral lines that would count in my opinion. But to me none of that has bearing on the nation of Israel.

there may be small variations of genetic diversity, but at one time science did view three races that it is now not used... because it is offensive and politically incorrect.. the whole aryan thing had nothing to do with white race.... but it was the name of early tribe group of ppl who were the first to discover agriculture and many other things and were considered enlighten or knowledgeable.. 😛 pick a book and read,, i direct this to only one person in particular here who feels he is somehow more knowledgeable then others and has made insults or felt the need to belittle others ppl's arguments

The term Aryan originates with the Indo-Iranian self-designation arya, attested in the ancient texts of Hinduism and Zoroastrianism, the Rigveda and the Avesta.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I want to convert to Asian. I'm thinking oriental, possibly Korean...I have a thing for Korean.

Originally posted by backdoorman
Did Israel agree or even seriously debate the idea of retreating back to the land they had pre-1967? Therein lies perhaps the reason for the Palestinians' continued rocket assaults.

So they took some land after they were attacked by an alliance of Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Morocco, Sudan and Tunisia.

Israel are lucky to have half the land they did pre 1967...Bear in mind that they also captured the entire Sinai peninsula right up to the Suez canal. If they'd kept all that then it's most likely this discussion wouldn't be happening now.

besides...there isn't even massive differences

pre 1967

now

Srsly u guys I know some black people who've connverted to the Jewish race. They're waiting for their isreali visa's so they can a settle on.

Personally Im thinking of converting to the African race so I can has an Afro like Samuel .

Originally posted by tsscls
You're arguing this? Seriously? You understand that the word Aryan, has been used throughout history to distinguish one people or another as a race seperate from the Jewish race. By using that word, you are validating that which you are arguing against. How about this, you're an oxymoron. Is that a race? I'm just trying to understand. Sincerely.

Aryans are actually Iranians. Arya means Iranain and can be used to refer to things Iranian.
Iran means ''land of aryans''. Persia is what Greeks named Iran.

''Aryian'' does not deminish shit - it is one of many things Hitler stole from Middle and Far East. Aryan and swastika being the most popular ones.
There are many Jews that are Aryan.

thank you for the back up mod 🙂

Originally posted by jaden101
So they took some land after they were attacked by an alliance of Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Morocco, Sudan and Tunisia.

Israel are lucky to have half the land they did pre 1967...Bear in mind that they also captured the entire Sinai peninsula right up to the Suez canal. If they'd kept all that then it's most likely this discussion wouldn't be happening now.

besides...there isn't even massive differences

In any case, I think this is what Hamas meant about 1967 borders.

1947 was a good year for Israel, it seems.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What the hell are you on? Seriously.

Aryans are actually Iranians. Arya means Iranain and can be used to refer to things Iranian.
Iran means ''land of aryans''. Persia is what Greeks named Iran.

''Aryian'' does not deminish shit - it is one of many things Hitler stole from Middle and Far East. Aryan and swastika being the most popular ones.
There are many Jews that are Aryan.

What am I on? I know the BC definitions and usages of the word "aryan," I can wiki just as well as you. We don't live in those times anymore. In the 19th and 20th centuries, the word aryan took on a sinister and racist overtone especially when using it as an adjective to describe race. So don't get indignant with me when someone lacks the social couth to realize the underlying coonnotaions of the words they're using. Are we getting into a "Clerks 2" moment here, when all of you armchair "Aryans" are taking the word back from Hitler? Go fly a kite, Russkie.

well seeing as we still use the word aryan in religious and argeological and agricultural/cultural courses.. i have to say that word still means the same as it did then.. and was never a need to take it back since we still have it.

only the select few whole lack certain knowledge view it as sinister and offensive..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
well seeing as we still use the word aryan in religious and argeological and agricultural/cultural courses.. i have to say that word still means the same as it did then.. and was never a need to take it back since we still have it.

Good for you guys, this debate just lost all interest for me. Bye.

Originally posted by backdoorman
I don't know why we are arguing all of the sudden about what Israel did after the Six-day War. My point was that the Israelis are not doing enough to put a fair end to the conflict, not about the particular policy it implemented post-1967.

In any case, I think this is what Hamas meant about 1967 borders.

No matter which side you're on, or if you're on any side at all..everyone should at least acknowledge why Palestinians are so pissed off. That is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Bardock42
1947 was a good year for Israel, it seems.

Question is, was that land actually inhabited, or was it mostly an unwanted wasteland that Israel built up?

How much of it was inhabited/Palestinians were moved out and how much of it was shit that the Palestinians didn't give two shits about until Israel built water treatment plants, houses, shops etc?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't consider the Judaism a race. You can convert to Judaism you can't convert to Mexican. There are, however, associated groups and ancestral lines that would count in my opinion. But to me none of that has bearing on the nation of Israel.

You can become a Mexican by becoming a citizen of Mexico and renouncing your current citizenship(s). I know a guy who can do this quickly for you, bring cash.

Now, becoming a Latino or Hispanic, that might prove a little more difficult, but there are plastic surgeons out there that can work magic.

P.S. Lycanthrope is a buffoon.