Punisher vs Bizarro Superman

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No I ment iron him self no prep........even with prep....time machine would be his best chances only chances.

Of course im talking about prep. Why the hell would I be talking about without prep when thats what this thread is about?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

.........punisher not iron man..........he no were near as smart..........pleases this is assurd to think Punisher has any chances of beating superhuman......good lord.....it is fanboyish.

No its fanboyish you're just pissed becuse people used to call you a fanboy and you want revenge.

Hes not as smart as Tony? Wait a sec didnt Punisher out smart Dr Doom, didnt a clone of Dr Doom (that has impressive feats of prep)actually want Punisher to assasinate Dr Doom? So what Superman > Dr Doom now?

Is Tony Starks smarter than Captain America now? He know more about tech but hes not tactically smarter. Punisher has outsmarted Cap and shown to be better tacticaly than Cap. Punisher cant build anything like Tony Starks can but it could be argued that hes tactically smarter and if he has the right tech and knowledge of character that he could beat Superman.

Heres a prediction though, all of what ive said is going to go over you head.

Originally posted by Bentley
Punisher gets 18 months of prep and basic information of his opponent.

basic information won't do crap. bizarro's only real weaknesses are concentrated sunlight and blue kryptonite. unless punisher can harness a hell of a lot of sunlight, he isn't doing shit to bizarro. and blue kryptonite? blue kryptonite is extremely rare, even in DC.

tempted to close for spite...

also: superman >>>>>>>>>>> anything stark can bring to the table.

did I just here you try and said Punisher intelectually is on or above Ironman..............did I really just here you argue this? really?.........im just gunna stop now and let you digg your own grave deeper.

Concentrated sunlight sounds like a exploitable weakness.

Originally posted by Raoul
basic information won't do crap. bizarro's only real weaknesses are concentrated sunlight and blue kryptonite. unless punisher can harness a hell of a lot of sunlight, he isn't doing shit to bizarro. and blue kryptonite? blue kryptonite is extremely rare, even in DC.

tempted to close for spite...

also: superman >>>>>>>>>>> anything stark can bring to the table.

All im saying is that if he has the right tech and the right knowledge he can beat him thats all.

Tony Stark has a time machine and he could used attacks based on that to beat Superman, Superman has been beaten by that sort of attack before.

FYI im not saying that either Tony or Punisher can get a majority im just saying I cant see why with the right tech and knowledge they couldnt get at leat 2/10

Originally posted by Galan007
All of his stats, sans intelligence, are on par with Superman.

So if Punisher had the right tech and enough knowledge of Bizarro why couldnt he beat him?

Originally posted by Bentley
Concentrated sunlight sounds like a exploitable weakness.

does punisher have a miniature sun launcher?

I don't know, the guy has used nukes, maybe he can device something to trick Bizarro into the sun or amplify sunlight if he has access to tech. I admit I'm not sure what's the most technological thing he has pulled off, but harnessing sunlight can be done without being Reed Richards.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
All im saying is that if he has the right tech and the right knowledge he can beat him thats all.

Tony Stark has a time machine and he could used attacks based on that to beat Superman, Superman has been beaten by that sort of attack before.

FYI im not saying that either Tony or Punisher can get a majority im just saying I cant see why with the right tech and knowledge they couldnt get at leat 2/10

lex luthor has at least as much money as stark, and is arguably smarter. he's still trying to beat superman, and he's had access to kryptonian battleships (which are far beyond dc earth tech), and warehouses full of kryptonite. he built metallo.

luthor barely gets 1/10.

it takes more than prep and tech to beat superman.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't know, the guy has used nukes, maybe he can device something to trick Bizarro into the sun or amplify sunlight if he has access to tech. I admit I'm not sure what's the most technological thing he has pulled off, but harnessing sunlight can be done without being Reed Richards.

bizarro has gone in to the actual sun before, and been fine (when he retrieved the blackrock).

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Wolverine get stompped into the ground.

but why am I not surprize a comment like this comming from brainless twit like you.

Now if it were Wolverine vs Bizzaro w/o flying

Alf you do understand that with prep that does not mean he can have some one elses biuld him something it means he has to. If that was the cases any x-men memeber would be a beast with prep

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Now if it were Wolverine vs Bizzaro w/o flying

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Now if it were Wolverine vs Bizzaro w/o flying

😂

Originally posted by Battlehammer
did I just here you try and said Punisher intelectually is on or above Ironman..............did I really just here you argue this? really?.........im just gunna stop now and let you digg your own grave deeper.

Im not digging anything. It depends on what you mean. If you mean that Tony Starks can build better tech and is better at science then you are right.

If you mean Tony is tactically better than you cant prove that.

Originally posted by Raoul
does punisher have a miniature sun launcher?

Which is why I said at th begiining of this thread, lets wait till next month and see who Punisher new armourer is going to be. He maybe smart enough to pull it off.

Other posters are saying that its impossible regardless of what prep he has. IMO thats not a balanced point of view because you are making a final decision abpout something you dont know.

It has been specfically stated that Punishers new armourer is going to enable him to take down much more powerful opponents. This maybe herald level opponents but we simply dont know at this stage, but since Stu Clark has been able to get War Machine armour and has tech powerful enough to kill Rhino and this new guy is going to be better its not a forgone conclusion. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not digging anything. It depends on what you mean. If you mean that Tony Starks can build better tech and is better at science then you are right.

If you mean Tony is tactically better than you cant prove that.

Which is why I said at th begiining of this thread, lets wait till next month and see who Punisher new armourer is going to be. He maybe smart enough to pull it off.

Other posters are saying that its impossible regardless of what prep he has. IMO thats not a balanced point of view because you are making a final decision abpout something you dont know.

It has been specfically stated that Punishers new armourer is going to enable him to take down much more powerful opponents. This maybe herald level opponents but we simply dont know at this stage, but since Stu Clark has been able to get War Machine armour and has tech powerful enough to kill Rhino and this new guy is going to be better its not a forgone conclusion. 😐

so we wait till next month, then.

all i'm going to say is this: better, smarter, richer, and infinitely more powerful men than the punisher have tried to take down the likes of superman and bizarro, and failed miserably.

Originally posted by Raoul
lex luthor has at least as much money as stark, and is arguably smarter. he's still trying to beat superman, and he's had access to kryptonian battleships (which are far beyond dc earth tech), and warehouses full of kryptonite. he built metallo.

luthor barely gets 1/10.

it takes more than prep and tech to beat superman.

and Punisher has outsmarted opponents smarter than Lex. In fact a clone of Doom wanted Punisher to kill Dr Doom. Which is why I think if he had the same tech as some of these genuises he may do better.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Alf you do understand that with prep that does not mean he can have some one elses biuld him something it means he has to.

Actually yes but I forgot. However he does actually have acess to tech that his allies have for example in a prep thread Wolverine could actually use the Blackbird if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

If that was the cases any x-men memeber would be a beast with prep

No they wouldnt thats why when Punisher broke into Doom castle, Punisher wasnt killed because Doom knew that Punisher would do better with tech than other people would.

Punishers military training and smarts gives him an advantage people dont have

Originally posted by Raoul
so we wait till next month, then.

all i'm going to say is this: better, smarter, richer, and infinitely more powerful men than the punisher have tried to take down the likes of superman and bizarro, and failed miserably.

Dr Doom could beat Superman with prep and Punisher has outsmarted him. Its even possible for Tony Starks to beat Superman with prep but he would most likely lose. HE has also tried to kill Punisher hes defintely capable of beating Superman with prep. Which is why I think with the right tech Punisher could actually do better than some of those guys, bulding tech is Punishers weakness but he can outsmart the best.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
So if Punisher had the right tech and enough knowledge of Bizarro why couldnt he beat him?

Originally posted by Galan007
Because he lacks the means to acquire tech sufficient to harm Bizarro.

LOL you dont even know who his armourer is going to be.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL you dont even know who his armourer is going to be.

LOL you dont even know who his armourer is going to be.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and Punisher has outsmarted opponents smarter than Lex. In fact a clone of Doom wanted Punisher to kill Dr Doom. Which is why I think if he had the same tech as some of these genuises he may do better.

Dr Doom could beat Superman with prep and Punisher has outsmarted him. Its even possible for Tony Starks to beat Superman with prep but he would most likely lose. HE has also tried to kill Punisher hes defintely capable of beating Superman with prep. Which is why I think with the right tech Punisher could actually do better than some of those guys, bulding tech is Punishers weakness but he can outsmart the best.

doom has access to magic that punisher doesn't have.

it's ABC logic, and outsmarting someone like lex is entirely different to outsmarting someone like doom. lex was able to make himself president. he's a master manipulator, a technological and biochemical genius, and has used and manipulated kryptonian tech.

i would love to see punisher try and outsmart lex, or superman for that matter.

Originally posted by Galan007
Because he lacks the means to acquire tech sufficient to harm Bizarro.

bingo. unless his armourer is lex luthor, of course... biscuits

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL you dont even know who his armourer is going to be.