Originally posted by Galan007
[B ] My point is that anyone (literally) can beat Supes/Biz with the 'right knowledge and tech'The thing is that there are a slim few characters with the resources to do so. Plain and simple. [/B]
True but its not a foregone conclusion that Tony and Black Panther couldnt as well.
As I stated to you Superman has been beaten by time based attacks. Both Iron Man and Black Panther have time machines so it not impossible for them to modify it. Now dont get mw wrong I never argued that its definite I am simply saying its unfair to rule out the possibility.
Originally posted by Galan007
[B ]
If Punisher's armorer is either Doom, or Reed, I'll give you that. [/B]
Or Tony or Black Panther, but of course they stand even less of a chance.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneSorry PZ, just busting your chops. I couldn't resist. biscuits
OK babing if this is a joke its not funny.No no no im not saying hes Reed or Doom. Im simply saying you dont know who his armourer and its not a forgone conclusion that he cant get the tech to beat Superman or Bizarro Superman. It depends on what he knows and what he has, nowhere am i saying its a forgone conclusion that hes capable of doing this, but since we dont know who this guy is we cant assume that he cant be done. All im trying to do is point to the direction where under the right cirumstance and righttech that he could possibly beat him, nowhere am im arguing that its definite.
Just to add, I dont think just because Punsihers outsmarted Doom that he can outsmart Lex etc. I just think its wrong to think that its a forgone conclusion that he cant.
I am not amking the point you think I am.
I dont think he can either. All im simply saying is if he had the right tech and knew enough he could beat him...that is all.
badawe
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm curious... what is this "time based attack" you keep talking about?
Ive forgotten the characters name but he can manipulate time, black guy.
He was able to manipluate time in a certain way that he was able to own Superman.
Obvoulsy just because you have a time machine does not mean that you can defintely do what this guy did because he manipluated it a specfic way.
However since Tony Stark has actually built a time machine and Black Panther has as well ( not to sure about him but he has many), we cant rule out the possibility that both characters can find a way to use time machines offensively.
Remember im not stating its definite im questioning the fact that you think its a foregone conclusion that it cant be done. Also theres a very good chance that Punisher will be taking on people like Dr Doom so you can imagine the level of tech hes going to have.